RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2015 Hi all, hope this is okay posting this in this section but it seems appropriate. The Dean Forest Coal Company was a coal factor company set up in 1870 by an employee of Henry Crawshay & Co., a Forest of Dean Colliery Company. George Frederick Morgan worked as Trade Manager for Crawshay & Co and due to this, the two companies had a close relationship. Dean Forest Coal was still trading in 1935. The 7 plank coal wagon represented here is number 437, which was a wagon from the first batch of ten ordered from Gloucester Carriage & Wagon works in 1914. NR-P906 by Derails Models, on Flickr (Apologies for the quality, it is an image of the sample from Peco and has a very low res!) Limited to 100 pieces at £8.20 each plus postage, in stock online (below) and in our Coleford shop now. The research and development of this wagon was aided considerably by the book "Private Owner Wagons of the Forest of Dean", written by Ian Pope and published by Lightmoor press. The book, although out of publication, can still be obtained using the ISBN number 1 899889 09 4 from a variety of sources, including the local Dean Forest Railway. We hope to add more wagons to this range in the future! Seasons Greetings! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I've ordered three of these, thanks for comissioning them. Do you have any intentions of commissioning wagons form the other pits, especially those of the Severn & Wye, such as the Cannop Ponds livery ? I would also be interested in the cord wagons for the timber distillation works, if you were ever to commission those. EDIT: I've posted this on the N Gauge forum to generate a bit more interest. Edited December 28, 2015 by Graham Walters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 28, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've ordered three of these, thanks for comissioning them. Do you have any intentions of commissioning wagons form the other pits, especially those of the Severn & Wye, such as the Cannop Ponds livery ? I would also be interested in the cord wagons for the timber distillation works, if you were ever to commission those. EDIT: I've posted this on the N Gauge forum to generate a bit more interest. Firstly, thanks for the order, and thanks also for the N gauge forum post, I had forgotten about that one! Secondly, we certainly do have those intentions, although we haven't decided where to go next. Cannop seems popular, since this release its the livery that we've been asked for the most - they were produced commercially within the past ten years which is why we didn't go with it before - so one to look at now though! The Severn & Wye is the main area of interest for us, both living, working and volunteering there! Do you have any images of the cord wagons? Again, might be something to look into. Seasons Greetings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branwell Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I ordered a couple on the 22 December and got them before Christmas - excellent service from yourselves and the Royal Mail - and very nice they are too. I do hope that there's enough interest for you to commission further wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 My sources say that more have been ordered from the N Gauge forum, so sales could be going well. My apologies it seems the cord wagons although used on standard gauge tracks were hauled by horses, or by the works own engine, and never saw the light of day on the branch on mainline, the only photo I've seen of them is in Ian Popes book "Severn & Wye Railway V2" ISBN0906867 28 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 28, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2015 Thanks, yes orders for these have risen today just a little! We hope to be launching one every few months or so for as long as we can find liveries - ideas on a postcard please (an email would also be sufficient however)! No problem on the cord wagons, I'll have a look at them anyway though, they sound interesting! Seasons Greetings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Mine turned up today, extremely well packed, and they gave me a discount on the postage, good honest shop thanks Derails, when I am next home in the Ross area I shall pay you a visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkeNd Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The Berry Wiggins bitumen tankers would be interesting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted January 1, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2016 Mine turned up today, extremely well packed, and they gave me a discount on the postage, good honest shop thanks Derails, when I am next home in the Ross area I shall pay you a visit. Thanks for the kind words - if you do come down make sure you introduce yourself! The Berry Wiggins bitumen tankers would be interesting. Thanks for the suggestion :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The FOD was a hive of industry in it's day, I would imagine almost all the pits had their own wagons, Cannop I know did, so that is one you could put me down for three of, any more would be a bonus. The Timber distillers outside Coleford also produced charcoal for the furnaces, naptha and cordite among other things, all this had to be moved around, there were also numerous quarries supplying stone, and sawmills making the pit-props and other wooden products. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted January 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2016 The FOD was a hive of industry in it's day, I would imagine almost all the pits had their own wagons, Cannop I know did, so that is one you could put me down for three of, any more would be a bonus. The Timber distillers outside Coleford also produced charcoal for the furnaces, naptha and cordite among other things, all this had to be moved around, there were also numerous quarries supplying stone, and sawmills making the pit-props and other wooden products. Indeed it was. Having just had to write a short history of one section of line and struggled to fit it on one page, the amount of industry that revolved around the railways here was large. I'll keep this page updated as and when something comes my way, hopefully as soon as possible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2016 The Berry Wiggins bitumen tankers would be interesting. And in OO as well.... Could you approach Bachmann for a special commission three tank set? Cheers, Mark 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 And in OO as well.... Could you approach Bachmann for a special commission three tank set? Cheers, Mark I'll probably have one as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2016 I'll probably have one as well. One! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 One! One set of three that is! At least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted January 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Something to add to my 'look into' list again, thanks for the suggestions chaps, my list is getting rather large (not a problem that is)! Edited January 12, 2016 by Derails Models 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 For further local interest - How about a Crawshay's Lightmoor colliery PO coal wagon- as illustrated in the magnificent colour photo of Tintern , circa 1937 on page 227 of Neil Parkhouse's most excellent 'West Gloucestershire and Wye Valley lines'. (Lightmoor press) (In N ). Best regards Matt W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JelleJan Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 In a couple of months the new OO scale Bachmann anchor mounted tank wagons will come (38-775/6/7). Wouldn't that be a nice base for that Berry Wiggins triple set? I think I see the same tankers in "BR steam in Dean" on page 75. Kind regards from the Netherlands, Jelle Jan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2016 In a couple of months the new OO scale Bachmann anchor mounted tank wagons will come (38-775/6/7). Wouldn't that be a nice base for that Berry Wiggins triple set? I think I see the same tankers in "BR steam in Dean" on page 75. Kind regards from the Netherlands, Jelle Jan Sounds like a great idea. Welcome to RMWeb, by the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted February 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks very much all for the suggestions, after yesterday's local Monmouth show we're down to about 30 of the current issue, I have two more liveries I'm seriously looking into at the moment so I'll let you all know when something comes about. Both have been suggested above so you have most certainly helped! Don't stop with the suggestions either, we'll look into just about anything! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted March 4, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) We're now down to a sufficent amount of the current release to allow me to get the ball rolling for the next one...it is again N gauge, and I am currently finishing off research so I can pass the photographs on to Peco for the artwork to be created. Watch this space! Edited March 4, 2016 by Derails Models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted April 1, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2017 Good morning everyone! We're back with the next edition, an N gauge Berry Wiggins Tank wagon in the more common black livery. Aided by pictures of the preserved wagon no. 171 at Cinderford and through pictures in the book "Private Owner Wagons of the Forest of Dean", written by Ian Pope and published by Lightmoor press, we have the following first sample for paroosal. The second underframe is present as the Peco design engineers were not happy with the way that the wagon plates had been printed, due to the deep surface - I think we will go with them though as it does add to the model, even not printed perfectly. The wagon number will also be changed to No. 28 as this represents the wagon Peco produce better than No. 171 which has a longer wheelbase and no headstocks. The main question we have is regarding pricing vs. detail - we can add the numbers to the ends of the tank as per the prototype but it means the price of the wagon will be raised by a £1 to around £11 each - would the potential customers prefer the price to be lower without the number, or would you prefer the numbers on the wagon to be present and not mind paying the extra supplement? All thoughts appreciated. NR-P916 First Sample by Derails Models, on Flickr Kind Regards. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2017 Lovely to see the Berry Wiggins wagons being produced, although 2mm isn't my scale. If anyone was able to persuade Bachmann to do another production run, then I'd definitely have a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkeNd Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Good morning everyone! We're back with the next edition, an N gauge Berry Wiggins Tank wagon in the more common black livery. Aided by pictures of the preserved wagon no. 171 at Cinderford and through pictures in the book "Private Owner Wagons of the Forest of Dean", written by Ian Pope and published by Lightmoor press, we have the following first sample for paroosal. The second underframe is present as the Peco design engineers were not happy with the way that the wagon plates had been printed, due to the deep surface - I think we will go with them though as it does add to the model, even not printed perfectly. The wagon number will also be changed to No. 28 as this represents the wagon Peco produce better than No. 171 which has a longer wheelbase and no headstocks. The main question we have is regarding pricing vs. detail - we can add the numbers to the ends of the tank as per the prototype but it means the price of the wagon will be raised by a £1 to around £11 each - would the potential customers prefer the price to be lower without the number, or would you prefer the numbers on the wagon to be present and not mind paying the extra supplement? All thoughts appreciated. NR-P916 First Sample by Derails Models, on Flickr Kind Regards. I love them as they are with the nos at £11. How do I order 4 please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talbotsteve Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Some OO stuff would be great, I know Hereford models have done a few in the past but the Berry Wiggins wagon in OO would be great. Also possibly severn and wye buildings, such as the buildings at Parkend, Whitecroft and lydney ect, or the buildings at Tintern and St.Briavels........which would suit me a treat!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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