Neils WRX Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Indeed, the track formation has had several manifestations and Ian has over the years demonstrated how three Y-points can be used as very effective space savers, the Y-points facilitating a wide enough gap for platforms, etc. By changing buildings, signage, etc., it can readily be adapted for modelling a great many and widely differing locations. If suchlike is removeable, the same baseboard can then even be used to swop countries at will. John That's exactly what I do, please see the Belgian / Balkan / Sometimes Danish layout thread. Not sure it would work with a UK station layout as the platform heights are so different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaprunSLB Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just had a look. Well done. Your point re platform heights is well made, perhaps less of a problem when only urban terminii scenes are involved. As a variation on this approach and in order to accommodate both an Austrian HOe station and a L&B 009 one where conspicuously different track formations are likely, I'm pondering a layout with a two-sided (two-faced?) back-scene so that one side is ÖBB and t'other L&B and the side "not in use" acts as its counterpart's fiddle yard, if that makes sense. But probably a 2017 project! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I used to have a HO layout called Glatzau on the exhibition circuit in the late 90s/early 2000s representing a non-electrified branch terminus in Steiermark, complete with Klein Modellbahn 2143s and Roco 2045s/2048s. I've since moved to British N gauge but this thread has got me looking longingly at Arnold's 5047 and 2050 and the Jagendorfer 2043. Must resist! Looks like 'a non-electrified branch terminus in Steiermark' might be a nice idea, especially after I found this pic while researching a suitable location for my layout. STLB 2016 diesel and short mixed freight train on the Gleisdorf - Weiz branch line. Exactly what I'm looking for! https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/oesterreich~dieselloks~br-2016/817676/die-stlb-2016-901-war-am.html&prev=search Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisspeat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Nice picture! For lots of great photo inspiration try: http://bahnbilder.warumdenn.net/index.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sounds Great, Pete. I still have a copy of the Ian Futers Neumarkt article in CM. As a big fan of small layouts, I think the Neumarkt plan is a classic layout design.Enjoy your trip to Nuremberg.regards,Mal Enjoying this thread so far Mal, just out of interest do you have a reference for the CM issue number / date please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisspeat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The CM article is January 2001. Three pages of OBB inspiration in HO scale! Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The CM article is January 2001. Three pages of OBB inspiration in HO scale!Pete Thank you very much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisspeat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Here are 3 pictures taken at Wels a couple of years back showing a very short freight working plus a couple of very early stage pictures of an OBB layout that I planned but which I never got around to building in this precise format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thanks Pete. The pics of Wels are particularly useful, as I intend to include a small warehouse in my layout plan, together with sliding wall vans. Is that a Raffeisen depot at Wels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Is that blue van a bike van? They did have some , I think there was an "Erlebniszug" (summer dated excursion) that ran from Wien to Wels via the opposite bank of the Danube that used a museum fleet 2143 and stock , which conveyed a couple of bike vans as well. Another fairly common working for branch lines up until fairly recently which gives a reason to run something a little different. IIRC there was also one that ran from Wien Sud to Murzzuschlag, which conveyed portions for Puchberg and another branch along that line , both of which were attached/detached at Wiener Neustadt. The actual portions were only 2 or 3 coaches each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisspeat Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Good morning, I am not sure about the depot at Wels. It is at the Salzburg end of the station. I attach a closer picture plus in the opposite direction is the bay platform to Grunau with a 5047. Here are a couple of pics of a typical goods shed on the Salzkammergut line.. There are warehouses at the station ay Linz Urfahr but sadly since the river bridge closed there is no longer through freight traffic to there. There were always plenty of bike vans there too! Kind regards, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Bicycle vans were very much in evidence during my visits to Austria in 1989/90. This train about to depart Westendorf has a bicycle van attached to the rear of the train. ... and a bicycle van at Kitzbuhel station Mrs A and I hired bikes at Zell am See bahnhof in 1995. We were surprised to find the bikes had a 'fixed wheel' However, we still managed a complete circuit of the lake. Of course that was 20 years ago when we were a lot fitter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaprunSLB Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 And bicycle vans, both bogie and four-wheelers, can still be seen in regular service at Zell am See, those these days they're on the 760mm gauge line to Krimml - formerly an ÖBB branch line but onwards the Pinzgauer Lokalbahn operated by the Salzburg Lokalbahnen (SLB). HOe models are readily available in both ÖBB and SLB liveries according to era and type. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 As a variation on this approach and in order to accommodate both an Austrian HOe station and a L&B 009 one where conspicuously different track formations are likely, I'm pondering a layout with a two-sided (two-faced?) back-scene so that one side is ÖBB and t'other L&B and the side "not in use" acts as its counterpart's fiddle yard, if that makes sense. But probably a 2017 project! JohnA perfectly sensible option. I'm sure I've read of or seen it done before Possibly on Carl Arendt's Micro Layouts Website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Added a few items of OBB stock this week. Firstly,the ideal loco for a small OBB shunting layout - a Roco 2067 sound fitted and with the bonus of a 'stay alive' capacitor. Very impressed with this loco, well detailed, great sound, and most importantly, crawls around the layout without hesitation. A few OBB vans, lightly weathered. and a stake wagon with logs collected from my back garden many years ago. I'm still messing around with layout plans at the moment and looking for a suitable location for the layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm hoping to start the new layout in a few weeks. Meantime, digging thru my OBB pics I found this rather interesting photo of a circus train at Zell am See, August 1995. and I was delighted to see that the circus train had arrived behind 2043 025. I've been gradually adding to my small collection of OBB stock, latest addition is this rather nice cement tank wagon. Definately planning a cement loading siding on the new layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Some nice stock there . An Austrian friend recently referred me to the Aschachbahn , which runs from near Passau to Aschach an der Donau. Passenger traffic is in the hands of 5047 railcars , as produced in HO by Rivarossi , but what surprised me was that there seems to be a fair bit of trip freight along the branch worked by both OBB and private operator Stern & Haffell , so plenty of opportunity for a bit of variety. http://bahnbilder.warumdenn.net/4744.htm shows some OBB trip workings , nice and easy to model http://bahnbilder.warumdenn.net/11362.htm shows a prototype 2016 on a short trip working , presumably on behalf of S&H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Here's a picture I took last year on holiday which I rather like as it shows a real loco photographed from an angle we more usually associate with models - taken from a road bridge near Innsbruck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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