Horsetan Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 The evasive answers may well reflect the reluctance to have a website or any sort of online presence. As I said earlier, I surmise that they would rather go back to how things were, no later than the early 1990s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 The evasive answers may well reflect the reluctance to have a website or any sort of online presence. As I said earlier, I surmise that they would rather go back to how things were, no later than the early 1990s. As a member, I would suggest that is an unfair comment and without foundation. If it does have substance behind it, I'm sure members would be interested to hear more. I'm not happy with the position with the website, but it's not a deal breaker and I'm not sure too many members would say much different, if they did they would either have resigned their membership or never joined in the first place. Where it does have some matter is in recruiting new members, we are in an age where digital media is expected and the EMGS do seem to be struggling with the transition. I'm not in a position to do much about it, whilst I have some expertise in the field, I'm afraid I can't devote the time to it, much though I'd love to help, but I'm not one who's moaning about it. Any society is it's members, if you don't like it, do something about it and help make the changes which you (and probably others desire) but if you're in no position to do that or if you simply don't want to, then accept it for what it is or go elsewhere and if you choose to do that, then don't decry something of which you aren't a part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Is there a secondhand stand this year? and can visitors (day members? ) sell things on it? I have a couple of coaches and a couple of kits to dispose of that would find their ideal audience at ExpoEM. Thanks, Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold melmoth Posted May 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2016 Is there a secondhand stand this year? and can visitors (day members? ) sell things on it? I have a couple of coaches and a couple of kits to dispose of that would find their ideal audience at ExpoEM. Thanks, Jon There is a Members Sales stand but I don't know if visitors can sell through it. Forms for listing items for sale were included in the latest EMGS newsletter, but visitors aren't mentioned in the T&Cs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Is there a secondhand stand this year? and can visitors (day members? ) sell things on it? I have a couple of coaches and a couple of kits to dispose of that would find their ideal audience at ExpoEM. Thanks, Jon There is. It is I believe for members only and if like last year then up on the balcony. There was a form with the latest newsletter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted May 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2016 I do recall that visitors to the show did put things on the stand in previous years, so it may be possible. To confirm, I would suggest that a contact be made with Roger Sawyer, via the EMGS website. He is the man in charge of the stand. There is an email address on the "contact us" page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Is there a secondhand stand this year? and can visitors (day members? ) sell things on it? You could always ask a member (if you can find one) to act as proxy? Another one for noting on any website update - if there is a restriction, and even if none, then that is just the sort of information that is best provided on the website. Sure the website is not a deal breaker on membership and certainly shouldn't be a majo factor in joining but it all helps. I am an ex member (left long before websites existed) I was once a member of all the societies (with the exception of S4) but I did an assessment of what any of them actually offered me and now am only in the Gauge O Guild. I still model in EM, and would I be attracted back by a fancy website - probably not. Would it attract newcomers? Well when looking at the competition, it is not so different from S4 and I know which one I would choose from scratch (no historical bias) and yes the website would play a part. The number of members that a society has is immaterial, it is the age range of the membership that will decide if it survives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 ... it is the age range of the membership that will decide if it survives. Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 The evasive answers may well reflect the reluctance to have a website or any sort of online presence. As I said earlier, I surmise that they would rather go back to how things were, no later than the early 1990s. I think the 'evasive answers' are much more likely to reflect a lack of comfort with the present circumstances and a sense of hopelessness about how to get out of the current mess. On of the major differences between the EMGS and S4Soc is that the latter has always managed to find a managerial team that takes the Society forward while the EMGS has always seemed to struggle since Doug Fairhurst retired. The current issues with the website are, I think, very much a part of this. As an EMGS member I would very much like the EMGS to have its own on-line chat site. I think it would bring members together as EMGS members. RMweb can do much in communicating, but it isn't enough. The EMGS needs to create a sense of belonging to a society that meets its members needs. An on-line chat site can and will do this, but don't ask me, I really don't have the technical skills, sorry. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold melmoth Posted May 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2016 As an EMGS member I would very much like the EMGS to have its own on-line chat site. I think it would bring members together as EMGS members. RMweb can do much in communicating, but it isn't enough. The EMGS needs to create a sense of belonging to a society that meets its members needs. An on-line chat site can and will do this, but don't ask me, I really don't have the technical skills, sorry. There is the "Ask A Question" section of the Members Area of the website which appears to me to have the potential to be used as a forum as members can post and respond to posts, but I don't think it gets much traffic. As I said earlier I don't think the website itself is a problem (unless there are fundamental technical issues that make it difficult to add, remove and update content) and I think it looks good and works well, although I do appreciate that this might to some extent depend on individual browser and computer settings. If I remember correctly, the website has been up in its current form for just over a year and the amount of content that members have contributed via the website over that time (layout images, small ads, queries) seems to have been very small. Perhaps the membership, taken as a whole, are just not that interested in doing things online? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 You could always ask a member (if you can find one) to act as proxy? Another one for noting on any website update - if there is a restriction, and even if none, then that is just the sort of information that is best provided on the website. I think the deadline has passed for submissions now. Without reference to the newsletter I can't confirm that though. With regards to the website, it has slowly improved with past journals and show guides available for download when logging in. Hopefully it will extend to the other items eventually as I'm sure the society has a lot of useful information available that could be made available electronically. Another society I find that a good website and Web presence really helps is the Merg site. With a good forum, items to download (journals, technical information etc) when logging i (only one login is required for both website and forum which works well). There's also links for members to some useful (unlisted) YouTube videos, which have proved very helpful in deciding whether I could manage a kit (demonstration at a area group meeting helped with that too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 You could always ask a member (if you can find one) to act as proxy? Another one for noting on any website update - if there is a restriction, and even if none, then that is just the sort of information that is best provided on the website. I think the deadline has passed for submissions now. Without reference to the newsletter I can't confirm that though. With regards to the website, it has slowly improved with past journals and show guides available for download when logging in. Hopefully it will extend to the other items eventually as I'm sure the society has a lot of useful information available that could be made available electronically. It costs the society a lot of money in postage and printing for the newsletter and manual pages probably so an electronic version could be beneficial for those with means of printing themselves if desired perhaps. Another society I find that a good website and Web presence really helps is the Merg site. With a good forum, items to download (journals, technical information etc) when logging i (only one login is required for both website and forum which works well). There's also links for members to some useful (unlisted) YouTube videos, which have proved very helpful in deciding whether I could manage a kit (demonstration at a area group meeting helped with that too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 it is the age range of the membership that will decide if it survives. I'm not sure that the website gives a good image of a thriving society when the only two news items I can see on it are obituaries! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted May 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2016 This will probably be my last visit to RMWeb before setting off tomorrow morning to collect the van that will transport Narrow Road to the show. Leaving all talk of websites and suchlike aside for a moment, none of that should detract in any way from what is always a superb exhibition. OK, I am biased because I often exhibit there but it is one of the best quality, friendliest, most welcoming, specialist trade heavy shows around. It is GeeVee's last one as exhibition manager so I would just like to thank him for all his excellent work running the show over what is quite a few years now and for having faith that we will turn up with new layouts even when we hadn't even started them when we were invited (not doing that again....... oops! I just did!). Hopefully Narrow Road will perform nicely after a long break from shows. It should, after all the preparation work that has gone into getting it ready. The operators include some newcomers who have not been out with it before and we are determined that we are going to be relaxed, chilled out and laid back about it all. You may even see us having a bit of a laugh. So if anybody sees us taking frowning or being too serious, please remind me of this post! If anybody gets the urge to say "hello" please feel free to do so. We really don't bite (much!). Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoViAnna Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Heading down from Doncaster on Saturday morning. Any views on which is the quickest route? A1 or M1? Traffic issues? Or do you use a different route? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 M18, M1, M25, M4, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I might try the M4 this time as the 50 mph limit on the M3 could be frustrating. Now watch it all go mammaries up on the M4. Seriously though, folks, it looks to be another good show. I will be there for the weekend. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Chris's comments about speed restrictions reminds me - what is the current situation on the M1 in South Leicestershire? An accident had closed the motorway last week when I attempted to visit the Derby show so I never got far enough to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted May 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2016 Heading down from Doncaster on Saturday morning. Any views on which is the quickest route? A1 or M1? Traffic issues? Or do you use a different route? Doncaster - KX, KX - Waterloo, Waterloo - Bracknell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Vee Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Make a note to self - don't go out for beers and a curry the night before setting up expo....... Jobs normally done night before to do..... reaching for paracetamol..... See you all over the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Make a note to self - don't go out for beers and a curry the night before setting up expo....... Jobs normally done night before to do..... reaching for paracetamol..... See you all over the weekend. Make note to self - don gasmask when visiting Gee Vee's stand in case there are still some aftershocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Make note to self - don gasmask when visiting Gee Vee's stand in case there are still some aftershocks. Air freshener? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Heading down from Doncaster on Saturday morning. Any views on which is the quickest route? A1 or M1? Traffic issues? Or do you use a different route? Doncaster-Bracknell 3H40 via M1/M25/M3 by Bing maps this morning. The real issues might be the M25 approaching the M3 and the M3 itself. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Chris's comments about speed restrictions reminds me - what is the current situation on the M1 in South Leicestershire? An accident had closed the motorway last week when I attempted to visit the Derby show so I never got far enough to find out. I did M62 to A38 and apart from the M62/M1 junction it was clear, for the first time in how many years? [i've done it regularly for 4 years and this was the first time it was clear!) Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-GNR Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The Mill all set up at Bracknell & ready for the weekend. Now for the fun bit of being away exhibiting, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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