RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just to add to that, Sandon in a somewhat neglected condition in BR days (down, Annie) and a CHE painting of Stone, with NSR train to Stafford in front, and a LNWR train tucked behind. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Mr Joule’s unit is used to register energy, rather than heat. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: Mr Joule’s unit is used to register energy, rather than heat. Heat is energy: not to be confused with temperature, which is possibly what you mean by “heat” here (as this is the everyday use of the term). Scientifically, heat refers to energy in transfer, and is in fact measured in Joules. The difference is easiest explained by two lumps of the same metal, one twice as big as the other. Whilst they may be at the same temperature, the larger one contains more energy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) The joule is the unit of energy in the International System of Units (SI). It is a derived unit, in other words, it is not directly defined but can be expressed in terms of the base units kilogram, metre, and second: J = kg m^2 s^−2*. It is thus also the unit of work, and the unit of heat. Note that, as for all units named after persons, the name of the unit is not capitalised but the unit symbol is. *As far as I've worked out, the text editor in the current version of RMWeb doesn't support superscripts etc., neither does it support pasting such formatting in from elsewhere. I have therefore used the notation ^ to indicate a superscript. Edited November 10, 2019 by Compound2632 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Yes, I was clumsily attempting to make the point that J signifies any form of energy, not only heat energy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 Being lazy, I’m just sticking a link in, he regarded himself as a brewer, and the rest such as inventing heat and energy was just a hobby. Quite a lad. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Prescott_Joule 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Northroader said: Just to add to that, Sandon in a somewhat neglected condition in BR days (down, Annie) and a CHE painting of Stone, with NSR train to Stafford in front, and a LNWR train tucked behind. Vandals! How could they leave such a lovely building to rot. Grrrrrrrr And I note that yet again gettyimages is attempting to expensively sell the rights to images that can be found for nothing in the public domain. I wonder how many people get taken in by their fraudulent claims to their ownership of images.. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 You’ll be glad to hear that it’s been done up as a private residence now, although as it’s right on top of a 24/7 main line, they’ll need sound proofing. I like the way your technical expertise can lose that Getty overprint. Can I call round and you show me how to do that, as I’ve just realised you’re only living five miles away? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2019 Look on any packet of food and it will tell you how many joules it contains which could be used to keep you warm, run upstairs or saw up wood for your baseboards. Unfortunately those that don't get used seem to become fat. Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Northroader said: You’ll be glad to hear that it’s been done up as a private residence now, although as it’s right on top of a 24/7 main line, they’ll need sound proofing. I like the way your technical expertise can lose that Getty overprint. Can I call round and you show me how to do that, as I’ve just realised you’re only living five miles away? Interesting. Does that mean I could move over to the old mother country and live there because I'm a New Zealand citizen? It's good that Sandon station building is now getting some love. Far too many beautiful old stations buildings were left to rot in the aftermath of the demon Beeching's foul works. And I did really find that old Hamilton-Ellis print completely free of gettyimages overprint on the interwebs. I always check to see if any of their Uk railway images they claim title to are freely available elsewhere and in most cases they are. Edited November 10, 2019 by Annie more to say 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Annie said: Far too many beautiful old stations buildings were left to rot in the aftermath of the demon Beeching's foul works. Some were sold off at a very reasonable price to the incumbent station master, if they were the live-in sort and if he was close to retirement anyway. I have no idea what proportion of redundant station buildings were disposed of in this way. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Annie said: Interesting. Does that mean I could move over to the old mother country and live there because I'm a New Zealand citizen? It’s not very big, but as it’s between Catcombe and Goatacre you could bring a pet. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Thousands of railway houses were sold-off to staff during the sixties and seventies - I remover there being a sort of weekly notice of sales and lettings to staff even as recently as c1980, and I looked at a few when I was a junior engineer, because they were keenly priced and often had very interesting history. Trouble was that they had all suffered years of neglect and needed a fortune spent on them. One I got very tempted by was a LBSCR house at Arundel, but the flashings around the chimneys had been allowed to “go”, allowing water to run down the internal walls and rot the roof timbers, and the timbers of both floors ....... it needed every timber in it to be replaced, which was beyond my means. i went for a completely brand new house instead, and ironically had problems with rot in exterior woodwork after <3 years, which the builders had to put right on about ten houses in the street! 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Some were sold off at a very reasonable price to the incumbent station master, if they were the live-in sort and if he was close to retirement anyway. I have no idea what proportion of redundant station buildings were disposed of in this way. I doubt if many were, a lot of places seem to have station / goods yard sold as a package, rather than just split the main building off. With the Beeching plan I get the idea that Whitehall had a policy with any closures to sell off any blocks of land across the right of way to make it difficult as possible to reopen the line. Certainly when Swindon works finally closed, there was some uncertainty about wether it might still be needed, but all the main line connections and signalling were whipped out straight away which made any financial case that much harder. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand,_Wiltshire Fascinating. So a former Governor-General of ours named the area 'New Zealand' when he went back home. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Northroader said: I doubt if many were, a lot of places seem to have station / goods yard sold as a package, rather than just split the main building off. With the Beeching plan I get the idea that Whitehall had a policy with any closures to sell off any blocks of land across the right of way to make it difficult as possible to reopen the line. Certainly when Swindon works finally closed, there was some uncertainty about wether it might still be needed, but all the main line connections and signalling were whipped out straight away which made any financial case that much harder. There certainly seems to have been a very deliberate attempt made to permanently kill off as many railways as possible. A particular case in point was the former GER line Hunstanton which had a healthy passenger traffic and was paying its way and was closed despite considerable local opposition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 01:30, Northroader said: Being lazy, I’m just sticking a link in, he regarded himself as a brewer, and the rest such as inventing heat and energy was just a hobby. Quite a lad. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Prescott_Joule Joule demonstrated the equivalence of heat and work, which is why the SI unit of energy was named for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Joule demonstrated the equivalence of heat and work, which is why the SI unit of energy was named for him. I like the way he was on honeymoon in Switzerland, and he accidentally met up with a great rival to his studies, so the two of them were trying to measure the gain in heat top to bottom from a famous scenic waterfall. Bet his bride was impressed by that? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 14, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Continuing a look at Knotty territory matters, a walk on down the canal towpath from Middleport pottery brings you to the Etruscan Bone and Flint Mill, another of Angus’s involved buildings. Happily now preserved, with occasional demonstrations. Here it’s the subject of a painting by my favourite artist, Rowland Hilder. Just occasionally he left Kent and went slumming, here for a Shell calendar series. The large square chimney is in fact a calcining kiln, where either flint or bone was heated up to very high temperatures losing moisture and altering the character of the material, then being crushed to a fine powder in wet pans, the rollers being steam driven in this case. If powdered flint was added to clay and made into pottery, you got stoneware, a strong opaque ceramic, and and powdered bone to clay gave you bone china, a fine translucent ware. Why Etruscan? Well, back in the mid 1700s, archaeologists were in full flow in the Ancient classical sites of Greece, Etruria, and Rome, and their discoveries became most fashionable and copied, with the Stoke on Trent potters trying hard to capture the styles and material, together with the imports coming from China. Probably the best known was Josiah Wedgwood, the eleventh child of a pottery family (eleven kids-Mamma Mia!) with a physical disability he became more involved in design than potting, following the fashions of the day. From there he went to introducing large scale production methods and new pottery techniques. He was one of the main driving forces to get the Trent and Mersey canal built. His goods needed to be sold, and he went on, rather surprisingly, to pioneer most of the sales techniques used up to nowadays, when “on-line” methods are supplanting them, so another Potteries figure with an intellect to match Joule. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Wedgwood My sister used to live at Stoke in the late fifties, and you became aware that the big names for high quality pottery were Wedgwood, Mintons, and Spode. It’s worthwhile doing an enquiry on the web for these names to appreciate the ceramic design and art in use from then on into the Victorian era. Anyhow, Wedgwood had a new factory built at a place he called Etruria, just north of Stoke proper, also a large mansion, Etruria Hall. With the Industrial Revolution and population rise and prosperity, the pottery industries boomed, such as the Mill we were looking at. All were producing smoke from hundreds of kilns fired by local coal, and I’m afraid Stoke became one of the blackest, smokiest places in Britain. Next to Etruria there was Shelton with a large ironworks adding to the blackness. Here’s an old engraving of the place with a tasty selection of the local private owner wagons, but, shock, horror, not one wagon of a certain diagram from a certain railway. In the end, Wedgwoods moved out of town to a greenfield site at Barlaston, alongside the Knotty main line where the workers could travel out of the centre to the new works. The new kilns were electric, and the jasper ware produced was a pale blue, rather than the dark blue from a coal kiln. I bought some, probably very passé these days, but I’m quite fond of it. Edited November 14, 2019 by Northroader 3 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Northroader said: I’m afraid Stoke became one of the blackest, smokiest places in Britain. Another place which would have been in the same league is Coatbridge, 'The Iron Borough'! Jim 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2019 Rather like Ironbridge/Coalbrookdale with the famous painting of the Bedlam Furnace by P J Loutherberg Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Caley Jim said: Another place which would have been in the same league is Coatbridge, 'The Iron Borough'! Jim But wot about Coatbridge Sunnyside then Jim? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Northroader said: but, shock, horror, not one wagon of a certain diagram from a certain railway. Oh come on - this picture is clearly "before 1882". But the variety of Earl Granville wagons is very well-observed. Several of them have the pentogram and oval owner's plates indicating that they are on hire - was the Birmingham Wagon Co. the only one to employ these marks? Given that these wagons are so well-observed, I think the line of wagons with inside bearings must also be accurate; presumably they are internal user tubs and trollies of some sort. There are more main-line wagons rear right - coke wagons, unsurprisingly. Edited November 15, 2019 by Compound2632 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 07:32, Northroader said: It’s not very big, but as it’s between Catcombe and Goatacre you could bring a pet. Being next to New Zealand shouldn't that be Sheepacre? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 16:17, Northroader said: You’ll be glad to hear that it’s been done up as a private residence now, although as it’s right on top of a 24/7 main line, they’ll need sound proofing. I like the way your technical expertise can lose that Getty overprint. Can I call round and you show me how to do that, as I’ve just realised you’re only living five miles away? I've corrected the orientation for you ... 1 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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