RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2018 Most Parkside buffer beams (perhaps all, but I have not bought all) are moulded into the end of the body and the buffer bodies are integral to the beam so should be no surprise that there are no buffer beams and buffers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thanks for the info Andy, Stuff I wouldn't know as I have never built a Parkside kit. I can't see there being an issues however, it just means I have to use LBSC buffers from elsewhere. Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thanks for the images Gary, and yes: the E2 is Goods Black (If I can dig it out!) I think a separate thread is called for on the other debate I started! However, I will further state my opinions on this matter: I mostly purchase RTR or Second-Hand kitbuilt locos, as that is the cheapest option available to me. I'm beginning to choose that, when a new RTR model is released, I will look for people who are selling on kitbuilt ones. That way I get a cheap loco that I can then have the pleasure of detailing and doing what I want with. Unfortunately I am struggling to find unbuilt second-hand kits, and the price of new ones is sometimes totally prohibitive! I simply cannot afford to spend £125 (DJH S15) on a loco kit which then requires extra expenditure on top. I wouldn't even buy RTR at more than £110, my Hornby S15 costing £80. In fact, at the time I bought the S15, I also bought a renamed Hornby 'Exeter' West Country for £50, then Five wagons for £10. All for the cost of buying 'Exeter' new at current RRP! As much as I would love to build more kits, my constant worry is spending at least £40-£50 on a loco which may never get finished and I may wreck during the building of! It's not a lack of willingness to have a go (I'd love to!) but the cost of making mistakes with a kit. For that same £40 I bought two locos today, which I will get pleasure out of by detailing and repainting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 All I will say on the matter is my S15 didn't cost full price as it has been sitting in a cupboard since 1990!! I wouldn't pay £125 either unless it is with the model shop where I have an instalment arrangement as it means I don't notice the money going! Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Glad to hear that! May I also post a request to all members visiting here from the (un! ) civil parish of Castle Aching, situated in East Anglia, that the PCC here in Oak Hill will not tolerate such atrocious behaviour as the posting of images depicting female actors wearing limited clothing. All such imagery as this will be immediately removed, and may be destroyed, without prior notice. Carry on... Edited January 13, 2018 by sem34090 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 Good news!! The new toys have come out of their boxes for a play!! and yes as guessed they are the SE&CR Birdcages by Bachmann, and very nice they are too!! I have also finally found the longest train that can fit in the loop on Oak Hill. Almost like it was designed for it!!! All I say say is well done Bachmann!! These are beautiful. I hope your upcoming LBSCR Atlantics are as good, and are followed by some LBSCR carriages!!! Gary 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2018 Re. buffers. Have you looked at the MJT range? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thanks Compound! I have bookmarked that link for when I start purchasing on mass for the wagons Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 Re. buffers. For a brief moment, I wondered if you were talking about scantily clad young ladies again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 For a brief moment, I wondered if you were talking about scantily clad young ladies again... Wrong thread!! :jester: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 WRONG THREAD! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 That’s what worried me. Although M1 and 14BA happen to be the same thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Dear, dear Simon, you appear to be having one of your funny moments again. Doctor W. Ho (TL, OBE, BBC, Hons.) will see you now. Ooops, now I've got the wrong thread... Hat, White Coat, Gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 Dear, dear Simon, you appear to be having one of your funny moments again. Doctor W. Ho (TL, OBE, BBC, Hons.) will see you now. Ooops, now I've got the wrong thread... Hat, White Coat, Gone! Don’t worry.I get lots of help. The missus is a consultant psychiatrist. (True.) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I suspect that is helping to stablise your condition, I believe known as 'Compulsive Wittiness' to those in the know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2018 That’s very kind, but I fear that you may be only half-right... Dang. I’ve done it again, haven’t I? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Yes! Edited January 15, 2018 by sem34090 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2018 That’s very kind, but I fear that you may be only half-right...Dang. I’ve done it again, haven’t I? Yes! I’ve waited years for the right audience* to say this to: If I added your wit to mine, we’d still be no further along... * One that sees the humour, not the insult. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Oh dear... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) "It's not a lack of willingness to have a go (I'd love to!) but the cost of making mistakes with a kit." I agree. I made some Ks kits many years ago, and they seemed to work, and am now working - slowly - on an ex-Cambrian 1196 for Sarn. I do worry that I may make a mess of an expensive gearbox, chassis etc etc etc, especially as i am being perverse and building it compensated and with split frames. So far so good, though already some reworking of the chassis. If you all (and I) live long enough you may see it on my Sarn thread (Sarn was going to be a quicky, don't you know, four years ago!). Jonathan PS But I am finding new skills now even at the start of my eighth decade. Edited January 15, 2018 by corneliuslundie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I often wish I'd been around when K's kits were still on general sale: I have a few built ones at home and they appear to have been somewhat easier to manage than some modern kits. Most people seem to think that those who do RTR will only do RTR, and kitbuilders will all be experienced modellers, hence kits become more complex, and those like me who want to break out of having a mostly-RTR collection of locos and stock are either having to find alternative ways of doing it (See my other threads) or are being put off. In some respects, the kit producers could be shooting themselves in the foot by mostly producing complex, or costly, kits which becomes off-putting for those like myself who want to get their teeth into something simple and cheap, before progressing to more complex and expensive kits. I'd imagine many kitbuilders around today will have started with the likes of K's and progressed, but that intial stepping stone has gone! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2018 I often wish I'd been around when K's kits were still on general sale: I have a few built ones at home and they appear to have been somewhat easier to manage than some modern kits. Well, there’s a statement I never thought I’d see or hear!Modern kits must be really atrocious. I'd imagine many kitbuilders around today will have started with the likes of K's and progressedIn my case, and that of at least one other person I know, the experience sent us into another scale.For most, it simply meant other kits often seemed better than they really were. Anyone who thinks that K’s kits are in any way easy is the railway modelling equivalent of Mongo from Blazing Saddles: indefeatable except by oblique cunning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2018 I think K's kits aren't all bad, but the difference between K's kits and modern kits is that with K's kits you need to be more cunning than a fox to get one to run nicely. The SE Finecast bodyline kits are the best starting point (and they do Southern stuff as well) and these fit to rtr chassis (ok some of the chassis are awful, but at least your creation will run!), but they also do etched chassis kits so that you can then have a go at making a better chassis for it later on. The K's kits that I've handled have fairly good bodies, but are let down by things like the underframes being impossible to get square (Manly caused by the masters not being symmetrical, and both sides being cast from the one master!) on wagons and carriages, and the etchings being poor in the loco kits. The later drive systems were shocking too. For wagons etc, you can replace the solebars with something more modern, with locos there's possibly a comet frame kit, or you can hack at it to get it square. If your that interested in having a go at a K's kit, ring SE Finecast and ask Dave if he has the moulds for what you want, and if he has, he'll no doubt spin one for you! Andy G Andy G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2018 The tank cab and bunker castings on my Terrier were of substantially different lengths. The chassis was so poor as to defy description, and nothing fitted. Still, the D-shaped axles meant the quartering was easy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2018 The axles were the first to be binned on mine, they were seized as well... not worried about cab length, as I'm cutting the cab off... Andy g 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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