Edwardian Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: The conversion is from 9.525 mm/ft to 4 mm/ft, so the reduction ratio is 42.0% to 3 significant figures. Thank you. I have a 1/32 drawing of a Beyer 4-wheel tender, so that will be handy. It may look a bit too small for my Not-An-Ilfracombe-Goods Goods, but we'll see. 22 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Are Irish engines, or the 101 Class specifically, any broader in the beam - or shall we say wider over the footplate - than their English cousins? Presumably width over splashers must be around 2 mm more in 4 mm/ft scale. Hopefully not too noticeably. The footplate width of the model is 31.5mm. My maths is none too reliable, but I make that 7' 10 1/2". Compare that with, say, the Dean Goods (Lots, 99 onward) at 7’8” wide over the footplate. Fortunately, I get to decide the loading gauge on the WNR! A random raid on models to hand reveals: - Not-An-Ilfracombe-Goods Goods (1860s): 30mm (7'6") - Hornby Peckett (1893): 30mm (7'6") - SER O Class (1879): 29mm (7'3") 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 17 hours ago, Annie said: wheels started slowly turning in my brain With you, Annie, this is always a Very Good Thing Indeed. I await the glorious pre-grouping virtual outcome of your efforts. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted April 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2019 you could choose to measure the footplate width on the drawing and then find how much reduction is necessary to shrink it to 31.5 mm. Looks nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 On 05/04/2019 at 13:33, chuffinghell said: ... Well, the WNR is to have a second-hand Terrier, so I have had a good look over one this morning. The salesman was terribly helpful .... https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/141090-Hornby-new-tooling-terrier/&do=findComment&comment=3518532 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted April 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2019 I fear this is drifting from the topic and offer this in an attempt to get away from modelling Nick 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 So, the Directors examined a Hornby Terrier today, and rejected it on the basis of a visual inspection; it was not even run. They believe an improved version might be available from Sheffield in due course. In other news, the builders have come back on site to work on the village and the Locomotive Superintendent has been asked to contemplate some Red Alchemy in the form of a Beyer Peacock works shunter for Aching Constable. Finally, we will wave farewell to Rolvenden, who will be chugging off into the sunset whence it came (but not with the Rother Valley brake van, a recent Ebay purchase - for pennies!) 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted April 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2019 Oh that is a very nice brake van James, - a lucky find there. And I do like that Beyer-Peacock saddle tank photo. Is the L&Y Pug aware that it is about to be set upon and transformed whether it likes it or not. For a moment I thought my sleepy brain was playing tricks and was seeing everything twice-twice, but now I see that you've mistakenly double posted. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Annie said: Oh that is a very nice brake van James, - a lucky find there. And I do like that Beyer-Peacock saddle tank photo. Is the L&Y Pug aware that it is about to be set upon and transformed whether it likes it or not. For a moment I thought my sleepy brain was playing tricks and was seeing everything twice-twice, but now I see that you've mistakenly double posted. That's odd, I can't see a double post. The Pug is another Ebay find. I've yet to test it, but you will see that it a motorised Airfix Pug kit. This is important because in order to convert to the BP version, I have to move the cab front sheet backwards, which is not possible with the Dapol/Hornby RTR L&Y Pug, as it has a vertical motor filling the cab. Edited April 6, 2019 by Edwardian spelling! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) So, Daddy Beyer, Mummy Beyer and Little Baby Beyer. Where's Goldilocks then? Edited April 6, 2019 by Edwardian spelling! 5 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted April 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Edwardian said: That's odd, I can't see a double post. Now you have me worried because now I can't see a double post either. More early morning tea required methinks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Annie, I fear this is what comes of living upside down and having your mornings in the late afternoon. Bound to be disorientating. 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted April 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2019 I wonder what percentage of Airfix/Dapol L&Y Pug kits were actually assembled as L&Y Pugs and how many were instead used as bashing fodder to make something else. The only kit I ever purchased formed the basis of a 3ft gauge engine on one of my layout I had back in my 20 somethings. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Annie said: I wonder what percentage of Airfix/Dapol L&Y Pug kits were actually assembled as L&Y Pugs and how many were instead used as bashing fodder to make something else. The only kit I ever purchased formed the basis of a 3ft gauge engine on one of my layout I had back in my 20 somethings. One of my personal favourties ..... 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Interesting dissection of a terrier in the other thread (one up on the frogs that were standard material in O-Level biology). 'Bodiam" was the only loco I ever finished in EM gauge, by serious surgery of a r-t-r one when the model first came out (I'm sure it wasn't Horby then, though), so I know the coal rails well ..... very fiddly to solder-up! It wasn't a wonder-model, but it ran, which is more than can be said for the K's one I'd built ten plus years before. Possibly I have bored with this before, but, c1981, I was researching very obscure NG railways in East Sussex, and went to visit an old lady, who I had been told remembered one in detail from her childhood, which indeed she did. But, almost more interesting was that she produced a Half Crown from a sideboard drawer, and told me how it had been given to her father by H F Stephens as a tip, for delivering "Bodiam" in good order; her father was a driver with either the LBSCR or SECR, I can't remember which, and had driven the loco from St Leonards to Robertsbridge. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: So, Daddy Beyer, Mummy Beyer and Little Baby Beyer. Where's Goldilocks then? Flooding at Castle Aching? Must be wet out there... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 ‘Morning, Can i I ask about Posca paint pens? Are there different types, and does anyone know which type I might need for wagon lettering? Thanks in advance, Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: ‘Morning, Can i I ask about Posca paint pens? Are there different types, and does anyone know which type I might need for wagon lettering? Thanks in advance, Kevin I recently bought the “extra fine”, but at 0.8mm, I don’t think it is fine enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 It should be more than fine enough for 16mm/ft, which is what I have in mind, but I was really asking about type, rather than size. Are there both ball-point and brush types, and which is it? thanks again, Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2019 It’s a paint marker pen, oil based. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) So, a fibre-tip? Edited April 8, 2019 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: So, a fibre-tip? Not a ball, so I assume so. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2019 Looks very interesting.I have some PO wagons for which I do not have suitable transfers for all the lettering, so black and white at least - and then here is lining on the Rhymney carriages WHEN I finish them. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Regularity said: I recently bought the “extra fine”, but at 0.8mm, I don’t think it is fine enough. Apparently there are "ultra fine" tips too, alleged to be 0.7mm. 2 hours ago, Regularity said: It’s a paint marker pen, oil based. I've only seen water based colours, perhaps I've not looked hard enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2019 The ones i found were water based acrylic and 0.7 mm: https://www.easichalk.com/posca-07-mm-extra-fine-markers-8-piece-set-2177-p.asp Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2019 Mine is not Posca: Uni Paint extra-fine white marker PX-203. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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