Edwardian Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 In today's news, "tunnel negotiations" .... I can only assume that this is what comes of reading too many "non-papers". 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) I've posted w/o a detailed analysis of panel heights, as I wanted to get in before the Hattons people go to their exhibition this weekend. The Earley Railway Carriage & Wagon Co's drawing office staff have been on overtime as it is. Edited October 11, 2019 by Compound2632 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 Stephen, May I congratulate you on the hard work you’ve done in getting those drawings knocked into shape. 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Northroader said: Stephen, May I congratulate you on the hard work you’ve done in getting those drawings knocked into shape. I am looking forward to some informed criticism! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 We live in hope and die in despair. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 Just now, Northroader said: We live in hope and die in despair. Bleak! Hope springs eternal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 I have, like others, given up on that thread, but if the hard work of you and James helps to make the final product better, all to the good. Well done for your efforts 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 has our Mayor been in correspondence with the Manchester Guardian ? Suzi Quatro in her leather catsuit on TOTP and going to see Jenny Agutter in 'Walkabout' at the local Arts Centre for an English Lesson in '73 set the tone for my ideal woman.. ..long after I'd had a bit of a thing that i didn't really understand at the time for Emma Peel.. Mr mayor back to the railway if you please Nick 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 06/10/2019 at 22:15, Andy Kirkham said: At the risk of pontificating on a subject I know little,I have the impression that Boulton & Paul, along with Blackburn enjoyed a kind of charmed existence, continuing over many years to receive government orders for new designs despite producing nothing but duds. The original B&P were primarily furniture manufacturers ! They did a lot of sub-contracting for the larger aircraft firms, selling off their aircraft division in the 1930s. The B&P Overstrand was actually very advanced for its time featuring as it did the first fully enclosed and rotatable nose gun turret ( an old vacuum-formed 'kit' of the Overstrand from the 1970s is stashed away in CKPR's big box of non-railway modelling distractions). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 18:25, ChrisN said: I have, like others, given up on that thread, but if the hard work of you and James helps to make the final product better, all to the good. Well done for your efforts Agreed - I was going to make the point on that thread that this was rather like going back to the days of Exley's generic coaches in a multiplicity of 'authentic' liveries but then decided, probably wisely, not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, CKPR said: The original B&P were primarily furniture manufacturers ! They did a lot of sub-contracting for the larger aircraft firms, selling off their aircraft division in the 1930s. The B&P Overstrand was actually very advanced for its time featuring as it did the first fully enclosed and rotatable nose gun turret ( an old vacuum-formed 'kit' of the Overstrand from the 1970s is stashed away in CKPR's big box of non-railway modelling distractions). They were also famous for Dog kennels and used to advertise in the doggy press and have a stall at Crufts... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, CKPR said: Agreed - I was going to make the point on that thread that this was rather like going back to the days of Exley's generic coaches in a multiplicity of 'authentic' liveries but then decided, probably wisely, not to. It ain't what you say, it's the way that you say it ...! While we are on the subject of British aircraft named for obscure English places and minor seaside resorts, who can forget the Bristol Bisley? Or, indeed, probably the worst British Light Bomber of the war, the egregious Fairey Frinton? Edited October 14, 2019 by Edwardian 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote the egregious Fairey Frinton Might have been useful if we'd ever fallen into conflict with an Incontinental power rather than a Continental one...... 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, jwealleans said: Might have been useful if we'd ever fallen into conflict with an Incontinental power rather than a Continental one...... Ha! Do I recall correctly that you are demonstrating at Hartlepool this coming weekend? If so, I may see you on Sunday. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Your recollection does not fail you... Mr. King and I will both be there, if spared. Edit - will you be bringing your terrifying daughter? Edited October 14, 2019 by jwealleans 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) I was going to post recently on a Facebook thread about the paucity of modern models of US RTR 0-6-0s with something about how they are all the rage in the U.K. RTR scene (with the proviso that an 0-6-0 can be a relatively far larger loco in the U.K. than the US) and that none were foobies, in fact that the U.K. had moved away from generic models (at least in the non-trainset market) and no new mouldings had been produced for years. I’m now glad that Bradway Tunnel meant I lost my post and I couldn’t be bothered to re-type it... Edited October 14, 2019 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: Or, indeed, probably the worst British Light Bomber of the war, the egregious Fairey Frinton? I thought that post was held by its sister, the Fairey Battle (a near-coastal town!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Battle Quote In May 1940 the Battle suffered many losses, frequently in excess of 50 percent of aircraft sorties per mission. By the end of 1940 the type had been withdrawn from front line service and relegated to training units overseas. As an aircraft that had been considered to hold great promise in the pre-war era, the Battle proved to be one of the most disappointing aircraft in RAF service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Battle 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jwealleans said: Edit - will you be bringing your terrifying daughter? Luckily for innocent bystanders, no .... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 00:09, Annie said: the question of 'lit' and 'unlit' That option is very prototypical - when the SLNCR bought its first bogie coaches in the early 20s (straight sided cletestories that looked 30 years older of course) it couldnt quite spring for lights in all of them so one became infamous as the daylight coach... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Hroth said: I thought that post was held by its sister, the Fairey Battle (a near-coastal town!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Battle The battle worked out ok as a trainer and target tug. If we're playing worst RAF plane of ww2 I'm going for the saro lerwick (following the obscure town theme). A flying boat noted as being unstable in flight, unstable on water, structurally unsound on water, and if one engine failed its control surfaces were inadequate to compensate, so it'd fly in circles, but it was also underpowered and couldnt maintain height on one engine, so slowly descending circles. In its 3 years of service over 50% of aircraft crashed.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 All this bemoaning the Fairy Battle, when it was a pretty typical 30s design. The Me110 and the Ju87 Stuka were rapidly withdrawn when the Luftwaffe lost air superiority. The Me110 re-emerged as a night fighter, but so did the Boulton Paul Defiants, and an aircraft with two crew was at an advantage in the radar eqipped night war. The reason Fairy Battles didn't appear in this role might be that they were all shot down in suicidal daytime bombing raids in the 1940 campaign 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 Pondering Pecketts and a possible B1 conversion... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 you'll be posting pictures of cute kittens next. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Nearholmer said: you'll be posting pictures of cute kittens next. Well, if the Fox Walker conversion does not prove feasible, I need an alternative. If it does, well, I'll have an excuse for a second B2 model! Both B1s, and, so I''m told, early B2s (introduced 1905) had the same tank/smoke box arrangement as you see on the W4 model. Given that I have to get the styrene sheet out and play, I may as well fabricated wooden buffer beams and a new cab and call it a B1! Off to York just now to hob nob with the Great and Good; I would expect some news during the course of the day. No spoilers, mind. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Well here it is; Rails of Sheffield, NRM and Dapol have announced the SE&CR D Class 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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