Castle Aching

[Andy Kirkham]

12 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 someone mentioned White Star names:

 

Bruce Ismay was a director of both companies - ensuring that the Cunard line got squeezed out of the naming policy. 

 

Webb 4-cylinder "Jubilee" No 1921 was in February 1900 named after T.H.Ismay, who had died 3 months earlier, but was renamed John O'Gaunt in April 1913, as I suppose, the family name had fallen into ignomony.

 

These locos broke radically with LNWR tradition in being not only numbered consecutively but bore names with a common theme - Royal Navy warships - with 1921 as possibly the only exception.

 

But they came to their senses and returned to glorious anarchy with the Precursors - CANDIDATE, HARPY, OREGON, PENGUIN, SERVIA, ARAB, GANYMEDE, PROBLEM, PEEL...

Edited May 19, 2020 by Andy Kirkham

[Nearholmer]

17 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

Too much time on your hands during lock-down!

 

Yer gotta take yer mind off the news somehow.

 

I've just been looking at the league table that you really don't want to be top of, showing countries in descending order of COVID fatalities per capita. We hold the inglorious fourth place (523 per million), and need to be very careful when tut-tutting about apparent chaos in the USA, because they are currently at number nine (275 per million). Of course, every nation counts slightly differently, and its early days yet.

 

(Readers in Aus and NZ may be comforted to know that they are near the bottom of the league at 4.3 and 4 per million respectively)

[Compound2632]

3 minutes ago, Andy Kirkham said:

These locos broke radically with LNWR tradition in being not only numbered consecutively but bore names with a common theme - Royal Navy warships - with 1921 as possibly the only exception (was there an H.M.S. Glatton? -  No. 1928).

 

Not so much. Of the ten Teutonics, nine were named after White Star liners (point of my post) with just Jeanie Deans as an outlier. Before that, the Dreadnoghts had a run of City names but also recycled some old favourites such as Mammoth, Medusa, and Harpy. All the Greater Britains and John Hicks (bar two) got new names, mostly engineers.Even the Jubilees' warship names included some, such as Polyphemus, that had been used before. All the Precursors had second-hand names, as did the Experiments until Babylon - the start of an interesting selection of Bs that sadly morphed into a tedious list of counties. All this from J. Goodman, L&NWR Locomotive Names (RCTS, 2002) which also provides the following:

 

Glatton: The Turrent Ship of 1871-1903 named after the village in Huntingdonshire where a Mr. Wells, builder of the first ship of that name (a 4th Rate of 1795) owned an estate.

 

Bruce Ismay continued as a director of the LNWR and LMS at least to the late 20s - he's the subject of an LMS Society Monologue by L.G. Warburton. According to the DNB he was offered, but declined, the chairmanship of the LMS.

[Andy Kirkham]

9 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Not so much. Of the ten Teutonics, nine were named after White Star liners (point of my post) with just Jeanie Deans as an outlier. Before that, the Dreadnoghts had a run of City names but also recycled some old favourites such as Mammoth, Medusa, and Harpy. All the Greater Britains and John Hicks (bar two) got new names, mostly engineers.Even the Jubilees' warship names included some, such as Polyphemus, that had been used before. All the Precursors had second-hand names, as did the Experiments until Babylon - the start of an interesting selection of Bs that sadly morphed into a tedious list of counties. All this from J. Goodman, L&NWR Locomotive Names (RCTS, 2002) which also provides the following:

 

Glatton: The Turrent Ship of 1871-1903 named after the village in Huntingdonshire where a Mr. Wells, builder of the first ship of that name (a 4th Rate of 1795) owned an estate.

 

Bruce Ismay continued as a director of the LNWR and LMS at least to the late 20s - he's the subject of an LMS Society Monologue by L.G. Warburton. According to the DNB he was offered, but declined, the chairmanship of the LMS.

Thanks. I edited out my query about HMS Glatton having remembered that Google Is My Friend and looked it up. The last ship of that name apparently still exists - buried beneath the Dover car ferry terminal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Glatton_(1914)

Edited May 19, 2020 by Andy Kirkham

[Hroth]

1 hour ago, Nearholmer said:

This ship-naming thing has endless possibilities.

 

Potential travellers are asked to choose between taking passage (careful now) on the RMS Neurotic, or the SS Erotic.

 

Which still leaves open for use: Arthritic, Bathetic, Calesthenic, Dyspeptic, Despotic, Frantic, Gigantic (I think that might be a real one), Hedonistic, Hubristic, Ironic, Manic, Panic, Pathetic, Peripatetic, Rustic, Seasic, and others (hopefully beginning with J, K, L, and Q) that will come to mind later, and all of which the LNWR will already have used for engines.

 

(There's a similar game involving names for Western class diesel locos.)

 

PS: blow me, there is a specialist search-engine for this rubbish! https://www.thefreedictionary.com/words-that-end-in-ic#w15 But, that would be cheating.

 

There was an Ionic but there should also be the Cationic. Thinking of Titanic, at the time of its launching it was said to be a badly chosen name as the Titans came to a bad end, so Gigantic might have been more suited.  One can imagine a small tug called Frantic pushing all these ships about. Of course HMS Priapic, famed in song and story could be mentioned, but its best not to do so... 

[ianathompson]

2 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

and others (hopefully beginning with J, K, L, and Q)

 

Quixotic? which could be as unrealistic as possible.

 

Ian T

[monkeysarefun]

1 hour ago, Nearholmer said:

(Readers in Aus and NZ may be comforted to know that they are near the bottom of the league at 4.3 and 4 per million respectively)

 The wildlife usually gets to us first.

[brianusa]

1 hour ago, Edwardian said:

 

Didn't Hornblower have a happy return?

"Captain Horatio Hornblower" had Virginia Mayo in the movie of that same name.  Enough to make anyone happy!

      Brian

[Regularity]

52 minutes ago, Hroth said:

There was an Ionic but there should also be the Cationic.

How about Catatonic? It would be appropriate for a model which never moves...

 

On a different note, my girlfriend actually said this to me earlier, with reference to herself:

”No point arguing if I’m wrong.”

[Donw]

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

What a splendid idea

 

 

I shall have to produce one!

 

Now, you need me to think about point controls, don't you?

 

Yes  I just need to know how you want to move the tiebar/stretcher. With a point motor it can either be with the operating arm coming up through the baseboard in the middle or at one end. With manual operation it can be wire in tube on the surface and then linked to the end nearest the operating side, or if you use some under baseboard links can be almost anywhere.

Some people make up an underbaseboard mecanism that includes a microswitch for the crossing.

My view is to would probably like to KISS (not that its Keep It Simple Stupid).  The two simplest methods are wire in tube from a switch and the Tortoise type of point motor.

Wire in tube. 

If you buy a Slider Changeover Switch (they sell them in packs of 10 on Ebay) 

Drill a hole in the slider knob wire bent 90deg at end goes through the knob so that moving the slider pushes or pull wire in tube.

An omega loop at one end will manage excess movement, a bell crank with the wires attached at different distances from the pivot can boost or reduce motion.

Tortoise type 

mounts unde baseboard usually operating arm point upwards a slider gives motion adjustment set roughly central. Move operating arm carefully to mid position hold tiebar mid position push operting arm through triebar and fix motor to baseboard connect up . Move slider if needed but as the mechanism is self adjusting because of the stall action it only needs rough adjustment.

 

I suppose if you are undecided I could have the tiebar available for either.

 

Don

 

[Regularity]

Photos of the above-surface ridding on Trowland - usually hidden under the platform, which is removable:

 

GEM lever frame!

 

Apologies for the quality!

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Regularity
Grammar.

[Malcolm 0-6-0]

9 hours ago, Buhar said:

I believe the Sardonites were two City States north from the Athenians, turn left at the Cryptics.

 

Alan

 

Odd people the Cryptics, never friendly, always a cross word from them.  

 

 

Edited May 20, 2020 by Malcolm 0-6-0

[St Enodoc]

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

Classic

There's another one!

[Edwardian]

6 hours ago, Donw said:

 

Yes  I just need to know how you want to move the tiebar/stretcher. With a point motor it can either be with the operating arm coming up through the baseboard in the middle or at one end. With manual operation it can be wire in tube on the surface and then linked to the end nearest the operating side, or if you use some under baseboard links can be almost anywhere.

Some people make up an underbaseboard mecanism that includes a microswitch for the crossing.

My view is to would probably like to KISS (not that its Keep It Simple Stupid).  The two simplest methods are wire in tube from a switch and the Tortoise type of point motor.

Wire in tube. 

If you buy a Slider Changeover Switch (they sell them in packs of 10 on Ebay) 

Drill a hole in the slider knob wire bent 90deg at end goes through the knob so that moving the slider pushes or pull wire in tube.

An omega loop at one end will manage excess movement, a bell crank with the wires attached at different distances from the pivot can boost or reduce motion.

Tortoise type 

mounts unde baseboard usually operating arm point upwards a slider gives motion adjustment set roughly central. Move operating arm carefully to mid position hold tiebar mid position push operting arm through triebar and fix motor to baseboard connect up . Move slider if needed but as the mechanism is self adjusting because of the stall action it only needs rough adjustment.

 

I suppose if you are undecided I could have the tiebar available for either.

 

Don

 

 

Thanks, Don. That's very helpful

 

I was thinking of wore in tube under the base board.  I'll dig the board out and have a look and a head scratch this weekend.

[Adam88]

16 hours ago, Edwardian said:

I was thinking of wore in tube under the base board.  I'll dig the board out and have a look and a head scratch this weekend.

Is that a typo?  Should that be worm in tube?

[sem34090]

Wire.

[Annie]

1 minute ago, Adam88 said:

Is that a typo?  Should that be worm in tube?

Wire in tube.  A simple method of mechanically operating points.

[Adam88]

Wire in tube is so passé, I was hoping for some nematronic system!

 

16 hours ago, Edwardian said:

I was thinking of wore in tube under the base board.  I'll dig the board out and have a look and a head scratch this weekend.

Is that a typo?  Should that be worm in tube?

[Regularity]

16 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

I was thinking of wore in tube under the base board.  I'll dig the board out and have a look and a head scratch this weekend.

 

21 minutes ago, Adam88 said:

Is that a typo?  Should that be worm in tube?

Just be thankful that the typo was no more than an o in place of the i, and not ho...

[Nearholmer]

I initially took "wore" to be the NE pronunciation of "wire", but then realised that is something like "wiiya", which in the south translates as "why are you?".

[St Enodoc]

1 hour ago, Nearholmer said:

I initially took "wore" to be the NE pronunciation of "wire", but then realised that is something like "wiiya", which in the south translates as "why are you?".

Isn't it "our", as in "Wor Nanny's a Mazer"?

[Edwardian]

I can see that I need to buy a new keyboard; one on which the 'O' and the 'O' are not rubbed out.

 

Sorry, the 'I' and the 'O'.

 

See what I mean?

[sem34090]

O understand yiur struggle, but the abive suggestoin os unlokely ti silve the priblem, of yiu catch my droft.

 

There's ni ibvoius silutoin, O feel.

 

Perhaps licate a keybiard with the 'I' and the 'O' separated by sime margon.

 

Any ither reloable silutoins shiuld be sent to eother Mr Edwardoan ir myself in the back if a pistcard.

 

O think O moght be takong the poss niw...

Edited May 21, 2020 by sem34090

[Edwardian]

Yes, I inadvertently typed "the 'O' and the 'O'" and was very annoyed and about to correct it, then I reflected that it rather made my point!

 

Need an office/IT revamp.  It strikes me that, if I am prepared to endure a duck-under (or bother to hinge a flap, I could make the test track a circuit.  Clearly one can detect the sub-conscious urge to create a refuge of some kind. 

[nick_bastable]

19 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

 

 

 It strikes me that, if I am prepared to endure a duck-under (or bother to hinge a flap, I could make the test track a circuit.  Clearly one can detect the sub-conscious urge to create a refuge of some kind. 

 

or one of these

 

 

Nick B