Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Like so: Some people are style and discernment personified. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2020 We have in the loft a crate of ELC Happyland track and trains that I've long fancied pressing into service. The Maharajah's train appears to stop automatically when a carafe is removed from one of the wagons; the Happyland train only stops when the driver is lifted out of the locomotive - my plan would be to replace him with a cruet. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I note that the Happyland train "makes a realistic noise" when the driver is inserted. At c£40 you could buy a set just for the sound, how does this compare to other available sound chips? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 hours ago, James Harrison said: You might want to close that bridge before sending the inaugural train across. Is that a Johnson 3f I see being abused? With Fowler tender? I shall have to call the proper authority’s! (at heart I am a GWR man but like all things Kirtley and Johnson) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I think its a scene from one of the versions of Arnold Ridleys* "The Ghost Train", though I've not a clue which one. I expect its a model, so in mid-20th Century terms it could be anything! * More famous nowadays as Private Godfrey in Dads Army. He served in both World Wars, as a private soldier in WW1, being severely wounded and medically discharged, and in WW2 as an officer before being discharged on health grounds and then joining the Home Guard. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hroth said: I think its a scene from one of the versions of Arnold Ridleys* "The Ghost Train", though I've not a clue which one. I expect its a model, so in mid-20th Century terms it could be anything! * More famous nowadays as Private Godfrey in Dads Army. He served in both World Wars, as a private soldier in WW1, being severely wounded and medically discharged, and in WW2 as an officer before being discharged on health grounds and then joining the Home Guard. It's from the 1931 version, but then this scene was cut and pasted also into the 1941 version. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) Yes, and in the 1931 film you can see that the real loco is a Dean Goods, or one of those rebuilt Cambrian ones that looks roughly the same, loco 2441, and that the model is intended to be the same thing. In the film there isn’t time to compare fine details as it flies through the air, so the affect (effect?) is as convincing as those sorts of things ever are. The bridge looks a bit like Barmouth, but I think it has too many bowstring sections, unless the bridge has changed since the 1930s. [It is Barmouth according to “Reelstreets”, it must be the angle that makes it look like too many bowstrings.] Edited July 5, 2020 by Nearholmer 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam88 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: Is that a Johnson 3f I see being abused? With Fowler tender? I shall have to call the proper authority’s! (at heart I am a GWR man but like all things Kirtley and Johnson) It's obviously not the Flying Scotsman. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Adam88 said: It's obviously not the Flying Scotsman. A pity, the best thing they could have done to the Flying Rustbucket! 42 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: The bridge looks a bit like Barmouth, but I think it has too many bowstring sections, unless the bridge has changed since the 1930s. [It is Barmouth according to “Reelstreets”, it must be the angle that makes it look like too many bowstrings.] I'd always understood that the filmic bridge was Barmouth, but as I had no evidence to say that... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hroth said: A pity, the best thing they could have done to the Flying Rustbucket! I'd always understood that the filmic bridge was Barmouth, but as I had no evidence to say that... Rustbucket seems a bit harsh, I think "Rather Expensive National Rolling Treasure" might be more suitable. Edited July 5, 2020 by Florence Locomotive Works 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, webbcompound said: I note that the Happyland train "makes a realistic noise" when the driver is inserted. What sound does a driver make upon insertion? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, Edwardian said: What sound does a driver make upon insertion? Probably similar to the rest of the population, when being inserted - perhaps a little more drawn out - due to inertia from the attachments at the rear end? Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, webbcompound said: I note that the Happyland train "makes a realistic noise" when the driver is inserted. At c£40 you could buy a set just for the sound, how does this compare to other available sound chips? 58 minutes ago, Edwardian said: What sound does a driver make upon insertion? I really can't recall, other than that they were amusing enough to persons under the ages of two and thirty-six, as we were at the time. Edited July 5, 2020 by Compound2632 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Edwardian said: What sound does a driver make upon insertion? more to the point Mister Mayor has the Navvy s camp been established and have they broken ground Nick B 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, nick_bastable said: more to the point Mister Mayor has the Navvy s camp been established and have they broken ground Nick B ...or just wind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, nick_bastable said: more to the point Mister Mayor has the Navvy s camp been established and have they broken ground Nick B I haven't actually bought any track. In fact, a track plan might be an idea (I think we should have a station). Besides, no progress immediately as I'm going off to do what people in Barnard Castle do when they need an eye test ... drive 160 miles to Leicester. 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) With working practices in Leicester’s garment factories coming under scrutiny, readers might wish to note the rather interesting name of the building mentioned in this report from last year, before the word took-on sinister connotations. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48226187 Edited July 6, 2020 by Nearholmer 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 While our host takes a break in Leicester, I'd like to ask about Barmouth bridge. I can't ever recall seeing the northerly one of the bowstring pair of spans ever swing. I assume it must - since the expensive refurb of the whole bridge (to eradicate a timber worm attack?) some years back to save the line north to Phwlleli; it coincided with the exponential growth in leisure sailing along the coast around Porthmadog since the 1970s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 I’m not sure it can open any more. Masts down, or laying over on the side? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 It hasn't opened since 1987 – and won't do again as they've laid continuous rail across the swing section. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2020 It used to be needed as boats would come up the river to be loaded or unloaded that no longer happens so there is no need for it to turn. When I spoke to the chap in the money booth about 2007, he could remember it did turn but not for many years. Photo just beause I like it. Don 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2020 I wonder what the legal position is. Could I insist on it being opened if it was obstructing navigation of my vessel? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 There was a tremendous fuss when the South Eastern & Chatham Rly suggested fixing the Kingsferry lifting bridge on the Sittingbourne to Sheerness branch in around 1902 (the original bridge of 1860 had been damaged by floods and no longer worked properly). Various local barge owners got an injunction requiring them to open the bridge, with a year's delay in execution to enable them to build a new bridge. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Could I insist on it being opened if it was obstructing navigation of my vessel? It might be an expensive test case: 1) buy a vessel big enough to justify it being opened; 2) pay tug to tow vessel out of now heavily silted channel in which it has got stuck while attempting to navigate to the bridge. 2 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I wonder what the legal position is. Could I insist on it being opened if it was obstructing navigation of my vessel? If it is a statutory right of navigation then it is quite a complex procedure to extinguish it. When they built a new flood bank round Cley a sluice would have cut off access to the quay, historically important but now rarely used, so they built a canal-style gate instead. Every time there is a very high tide forecast the gate is closed. It's saved us from a soaking at least twice in the last 15 years. Edited July 6, 2020 by wagonman 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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