Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Well that's impressive in a rather strange way. I wonder what the tractive power would be like, but then the rolling stock would also need gyros. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: the rolling stock would also need gyros That's one of the main reasons why the prototype didn't catch on. For more on Brennan, see "Louis Brennan - Inventor Extraordinaire" by Norman Tomlinson, John Hallewell Publications (1980), ISBN 0 905540 18 2. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) May be operationally difficult for the railway bit of the model, but you can always park a Shilovski outside the station Edited July 26, 2020 by webbcompound 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Very stylish indeed! Periodically gets reinvented, and here’s a concept for gyrotrams https://www.treehugger.com/gyrocar-could-be-solution-biggest-urban-our-times-4853796 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: the rolling stock would also need gyros. Every carriage a dining car; the waiters keep the plates spinning? 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 And you could make use of existing track by fastening two gyrotrains together side by side. Oh, wait.... 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 The car is so cool that I actually like it better than a train - it has so many likeable features beyond the insane engineering, which is wonderful in itself. The ‘saloon’ section looks so convivial, like an open-air gentlemen’s club. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 However imagine the problems once you turned the gyros off. Someone yelling out to the foreman "Get the big crane - the engine's fallen over again!!!" 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2020 Stabilisers. Always the problem with monorails - they inevitably end up being trirails. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted July 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Stabilisers. Always the problem with monorails - they inevitably end up being trirails. I think it is much less of a problem with underslung ones. You just need extra legs to hold the rail up! I cannot see any great advantage in using them on ground level lines. The space needed to get wagons or carriages through is wide enough for two rails. Don 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 And on Emmet's Prawnbeach line the loco would end up as a unicycle. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: However imagine the problems once you turned the gyros off. Someone yelling out to the foreman "Get the big crane - the engine's fallen over again!!!" I think brennan had calculated how long the gyroscope would keep spinning after power was cut off, cant remember the reference but I want to say that the car would stay upright for 12 hours or something daft. More than long enough to find a couple of props and wedge it in any case. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam88 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 In model railway terms I understood how we went from Trix Twin and HD 3 rail to two rail but I'm not clear how we would arrange electical pick-up. I think the model in the video is a bit of a cheat as it's using dry cells for power. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted July 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Battery power. Nothing wrong with it, whether single use or rechargeable. Edited July 27, 2020 by Regularity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted July 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Adam88 said: In model railway terms I understood how we went from Trix Twin and HD 3 rail to two rail but I'm not clear how we would arrange electical pick-up. I think the model in the video is a bit of a cheat as it's using dry cells for power. So by analogy, those Hornby live steam locos are also a cheat, rather than the engineering marvel I always took them for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted July 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2020 Well unless you are modelling SR electrics powered from the third rail or Overhead powered electrics using electricity is a cheat. Most of my Live STeam models are also a bit of a cheat as they use Butane but there is the coal fired one to complete. The Late Clary Edwards built beautiful live steam 0 gauge models if the prototype had three cylinders thats what he built. His Spam can had the chain drive just like the original. However these are not so ideal for indoor scenic lines so we use elecricity. There is increasing use of Battery power for 0 gauge models is perhaps closer to the full size steam or diesel which also carry their own power supply. The use of radio control is a bit of a cheat but minature working drivers are rather lacking. Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 “Interest was such that children's clockwork monorail toys, single-wheeled and gyro-stabilised, were produced in England and Germany.” I guess the thing to do is charge the gyro by the usual method of string, then use clockwork for propulsion along the track. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Ages since the Parish Council actually discussed Castle Aching, so I thought I’d better check that it’s still there. It is. View from the front of the village hall this afternoon. Plus a view of part of the priory, from the WNR “Guide to Attractions”. It’s apparent that West Norfolk’s tourist trade is suffering badly as a result of the now-over (for how long, dare we wonder?) travel restrictions. The posh tea rooms in CA are up for sale, and so is the equivalent at Dersingham. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted July 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2020 “But what about the Dodo?” 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted July 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Ages since the Parish Council actually discussed Castle Aching, so I thought I’d better check that it’s still there. I suspect members are in voluntary lock down although I heard Mr Mayor was diverted looking for fishplates one wonders if to match middle class fish knives and forks Nick B 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Northroader said: But what about the Dodo?” Still there. Resting after a hard day. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 Well, I'm back. My first post-lock-down visit to the Aged Ps was by way of a quick dash. I returned with the Offspring for an extended visit. I enjoyed trudging over my native heath, but am now back home and have hopes for some modelling this weekend. Hope you have all been keeping well. I must order some fishplates for the NG line! What I have bought instead are a couple of stout volumes on the Victorian Navy in an effort to make some inroads in another field of ignorance for me. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: What I have bought instead are a couple of stout volumes on the Victorian Navy in an effort to make some inroads in another field of ignorance for me. Excellent! Could you tell us what the volumes are? In parts of my past I have had reassuring contact with Brassey's Naval Annual, but that didn't contain pictures of the quality you have posted All will be well with your cruiser, until Coronel and the Broad 14s 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, drmditch said: Excellent! Could you tell us what the volumes are? In parts of my past I have had reassuring contact with Brassey's Naval Annual, but that didn't contain pictures of the quality you have posted All will be well with your cruiser, until Coronel and the Broad 14s The Friedman volumes on Victorian Cruisers and Victorian Battleships. I have long had my eye on them, but when a leaflet came through the post from Pen & Sword announcing a sale, which included these volumes, I realised that this was the moment to purchase them. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2020 I’ve got a great affection for the small fry after reading Kipling: http://www.telelib.com/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose/TrafficsDiscoveries/lawful_p1.html 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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