Edwardian Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Don't underestimate the value of this to railway modellers though. When we moved into our present (and, hopefully, final) home, a big part of the justification for building a larger railway room (council considers it to be a garage) was to deal with the Accumulation of Stuff. Large quantities of said Stuff are now stored underneath the baseboards, out of the way but easily accessible. This amount of Stuff demanded a lot of space, which therefore resulted in a large railway room with a large model railway in it. Happiness and contentment for all. Very much my view. The Caste Aching boards are deep enough to store the large 64L Really Useful Boxes end-on 2-deep! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Returning to the subject of Luggage Composites the K&ESR have what I believe to be an ex-GER 6-wheel luggage composite, albeit pretending to be a brake 3rd. On today's train. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Indeed, looks to be a 32' luggage composite to D219, built 1886-1896, Type 5 by the Watling classification system. Very nice, too. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tom Burnham said: Moving from left to right I saw a 3rd class and then an 8th class. Who knows what the standard of accommodation would be in there. Probably just one big saloon compartment with no seats and straw on the floor. Then I noticed the tiny little gaps in the "8" and realised it was just a 3rd Edited July 11, 2021 by webbcompound 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, webbcompound said: Probably just one big saloon compartment with no seats and straw on the floor. Straw! The lower orders will be wanting windows and a roof next... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, Tom Burnham said: Straw! The lower orders will be wanting windows and a roof next... Why am I reminded of J. Clarkson's take on a railway carriage? Straw, benches and an outside toilet and emblazoned with the name 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 rd class on NSWGR No 1 train didnt waste windows on those who couldnt afford them. 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Very nice! Of course, the lower orders don't need glass, they're used to being outdoors in all sorts of weather so the roof and ends would have been sheer luxury, and they don't need to keep books/newspapers dry to read while travelling as they probably can't read. And then its a good idea if the weather keeps the straw dampish so it doesn't catch fire if ashes from pipes fall on it! Good ventilation too, who'd have thought that the railway company had anticipated Covid back then? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 A magnificent coach. However, to reassure the Lower Orders of West Norfolk in the 1850s, their Joseph Wright coaches will be adapted to their climate. For, whereas: New South Wales enjoys a year-round sub-tropical climate, with warm semi-tropical summers, particularly in lower central areas and cool winters. In the springtime from September to November, New South Wales comes alive with lush greenery and enjoys balmy, sunny days ... Summer in New South Wales, December to February, is characteristically hot and dry, with maximum temperatures reaching 30°C. In Norfolk, on the other hand .... So, little smoked-up windows and the dark fug of shared oil lamps it is! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Edwardian said: In the springtime from September to November, New South Wales comes alive with lush greenery and enjoys balmy, sunny days ... Surely that means that at times its going to absolutely bucket down! Warm rain is still wet... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Having lived sometime in a tropical climate where the rain is warm, I can attest that, for me, it is the coldness of our native rain, rather than its wetness, that is its decisively unpleasant characteristic! 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2021 A word of warning for the Directors of the WNR on through carriages. One of the General Managers of the Cambrian was asked in a Board meeting, in the early 1890s or there abouts, why they were paying out rather than gaining, or drawing even on through coaches. His reply was that the mileage that the mileage on foreign metals was much more than on home metals. The WNR would probably be in the same situation. It may be that the Cambrian did not have enough coaches to do turn and turn about with the other companies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, ChrisN said: A word of warning for the Directors of the WNR on through carriages. One of the General Managers of the Cambrian was asked in a Board meeting, in the early 1890s or there abouts, why they were paying out rather than gaining, or drawing even on through coaches. His reply was that the mileage that the mileage on foreign metals was much more than on home metals. The WNR would probably be in the same situation. It may be that the Cambrian did not have enough coaches to do turn and turn about with the other companies. The Directors of the WNR could try asking the companies whose through carriages they are accepting to guarantee a certain rate of return. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 20 hours ago, monkeysarefun said: 3 rd class on NSWGR No 1 train didnt waste windows on those who couldnt afford them. As I think I've said before, 4th Class on the E&G when it opened didn't even have seats, never mind roofs or windows! Jim 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Yesterday I had a happy day trimming these free of supports. The WNR's Sharp Stewart standard classes. These are 3D prints from Sparkshot Custom Creations (@Knuckles of this parish), including a couple of conversions therefrom. All that is missing are the four planned 4-4-0s, but @Knuckles has kindly said he'll draw these up when I'm ready. At the bottom of the picture we have six 2-4-0s. Above are the six 0-6-0s. One I split, cutting the frames away from the boiler. The boiler is used for a tank engine seen, the frames are married to a larger boiler and 6-wheel tender, representing a recent rebuild. Edited July 12, 2021 by Edwardian 17 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2021 Lovely stuff James! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: Yesterday I had a happy day trimming these free of supports. The WNR's Sharp Stewart standard classes. These are 3D prints from Sparkshot Custom Creations (@Knucklesif this parish), including a couple of conversions therefrom. All that is missing are the four planned 4-4-0s, but @Knuckles has kindling said he'll draw these up when I'm ready. At the bottom of the picture we have six 2-4-0s. Above are the six 0-6-0s. One I split, cutting the frames away from the boiler. The boiler is to be used for a tank engine version, the frames are married to a larger boiler and 6-wheel tender, representing a recent rebuild. That is an impressive sight. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Oh, now those look absolutely delightful! Is that a GBL Wainwright C tender at the back for the larger 0-6-0? I shall very much look forward to seeing these in WNR livery, but don't envy you the lining! With that many similar locos, might it be worth ordering a few sets of custom transfers designed to fit? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Skinnylinny said: Oh, now those look absolutely delightful! Is that a GBL Wainwright C tender at the back for the larger 0-6-0? Yes, indeed! This is courtesy of Simon @Regularity, IIRC. I wanted a larger boiler and, although not an exact match, the inspiration was the appearance of the later Sharp 'Ottoman' 0-6-0s of the LT&SR. Then I looked at drawings of them and saw that the C Class tender could be tweaked to resemble their Sharp 6W tenders. 2 minutes ago, Skinnylinny said: I shall very much look forward to seeing these in WNR livery, but don't envy you the lining! With that many similar locos, might it be worth ordering a few sets of custom transfers designed to fit? Yes, indeed; the plan has always been to commission transfers! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: Yesterday I had a happy day trimming these free of supports. The WNR's Sharp Stewart standard classes. These are 3D prints from Sparkshot Custom Creations (@Knuckles of this parish), including a couple of conversions therefrom. All that is missing are the four planned 4-4-0s, but @Knuckles has kindly said he'll draw these up when I'm ready. <picture snipped> At the bottom of the picture we have six 2-4-0s. Above are the six 0-6-0s. One I split, cutting the frames away from the boiler. The boiler is used for a tank engine seen, the frames are married to a larger boiler and 6-wheel tender, representing a recent rebuild. That really is a fine sight James. Absolutely lovely. I really do like 'Sharpies', they are the perfect engines for small and minor railways. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted July 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: At the bottom of the picture we have six 2-4-0s. Above are the six 0-6-0s. Stop it. You will make me want to model the Furness for the umpteenth time! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Regularity said: Stop it. You will make me want to model the Furness for the umpteenth time! 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Stop it. You will make me want to model the Furness for the umpteenth time! This loco will not appear on your layout (unless you build it). It might be worth asking @Knuckles if he would print one in S, as he has done one or two locos in that scale. Go direct, though, not via Shapeways. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Can print some S items here although some (at the moment) have to be Shapeways only as they have bigger printers. If interested though please send email at sparkshot082@gmail.com and can have a look. That said I recently brought a Elegoo Mars 2 along side the 2 Photons and it has a bit more print space. The big printer/s will have to wait until the top shed is renovated though. -- Must say I'm really looking forward to seeing some of those loco's completed. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Hurrah ! At long last, there is now no need to even think about the Peter K so-called 'kit' if you are desirous of a 4mm 'Sharpie' 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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