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43 minutes ago, wagonman said:

Oh, they're Orcs! I thought for a moment it was the local UKIP candidates...

 

29 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Orcs are capable of organisation and planning, at least when in thrall to a malign intelligence.

 

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I'm sorry, I see no connection with malign intelligence in the photo you've posted. For that sort of thing, you want to keep a sharp eye out of your front window...

 

Edit: comment no longer applies, as @Edwardian changed his original photo of a misguided and foolish hobbit.

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Maybe the suggestion is that he is in the thrall of malign intelligence, which is likely half true, given that his strings are probably being pulled from both sides of the Bering Strait.

 

EDIT: You'll have to work out for yourself who the photo originally showed. Now that he isn't there I can give clues without being sued for defamation (hopefully): braying fool; friend of the US Alt Right; rumoured recipient of Russian meddle-funds; all round useful idiot for those who have interests in damaging the EU by scuppering the UK; possibly daft enough to believe the clap-trap and dog-whistles that he gives vent to.

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8 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

Maybe the suggestion is that he is in the thrall of malign intelligence, which is likely half true, given that his strings are probably being pulled from both sides of the Bering Strait.

 

An orc of the White Hand? Classic Sauron / Saruman set-up.

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17 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

I'm sorry, I see no connection with malign intelligence in the photo you've posted. For that sort of thing, you want to keep a sharp eye out of your front window...

 

10 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

Maybe the suggestion is that he is in the thrall of malign intelligence, which is likely half true, given that his strings are probably being pulled from both sides of the Bering Strait.

 

You are both quite right, so I have made amends

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Well, maybe, but now you're saying he's a hobbit of sorts too. Gollum never gave out rings of power to keep government ministers obedient to his will.

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33 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

... but left to their own devices will rapidly descend into infighting, drunkeness, antisocial behaviour, and golf.

 

Wah!

 

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12 hours ago, Edwardian said:

I'm on a virtual holiday, in Middle Earth, so a postcard to say I'm thinking of you all...

 

4 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Only a postcard? You could at least have given us a ring. Hope you don't run into any orc-ward situations!

 

Lets praise him with great praise*!

 

Then we'd better skedaddle back to the Shire and sort out Saruman......

 

I'd say DC IS Saruman, an underling with great power and little responsibility.

 

* One of the most winceworthy sections of the book.

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4 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Well, maybe, but now you're saying his a hobbit of sorts too. Gollum never gave out rings of power to keep government ministers obedient to his will.

 

By analogy, that sort of makes Michael Gove the Lord of the Nazgul, which idea I rather like!

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The whole Lord of the Rings analogy worked best in 2010, with Blair as Isildur - back at the end of the second age (1997) he had the opportunity to destroy the power of Sauron for ever but was enamoured of the ring and kept it. For a short while he had the strength to bend it to his own will but it inevitably led to his downfall.

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3 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Maybe the suggestion is that he is in the thrall of malign intelligence, which is likely half true, given that his strings are probably being pulled from both sides of the Bering Strait.

I would suggest from one side of the Bering Strait.

One set of strings directly from that side, and the other set of strings indirectly via the other side, which are being pulled by the original side.

 

There are roughly 7,800,000,000 people on the planet.

2,095 of them are known to be billionaires. In percentage terms, that's diddly squat having more money than many countries.

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4 minutes ago, Regularity said:

There are roughly 7,800,000,000 people on the planet.

2,095 of them are known to be billionaires. In percentage terms, that's diddly squat having more money than many countries.

 

That would be 477 (of whatever currency unit we're working in) per capita - which would make a bigger difference in some parts of the world than others. I'd pass on my share if it would do more good elsewhere.

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3 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

The whole Lord of the Rings analogy worked best in 2010, with Blair as Isildur - back at the end of the second age (1997) he had the opportunity to destroy the power of Sauron for ever but was enamoured of the ring and kept it. For a short while he had the strength to bend it to his own will but it inevitably led to his downfall.

 

No, Blair was hilariously parodied as the White Wizard (the nicest man in the whole of Lower Earth) in Series 3, Episode 5 of the BBC radio comedy ElevenQuest. 

 

Incidentally, the "third way" actually does crop up somewhere in Tolkien's LoTR, IIRC.

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I'm not into LoTR, but if The White Wizard was a chap who made a truly enormous mistake, because he was too caught-up with his belief-systems and his friends, sort-of eventually half-realised that he had been party to creating a disaster, and afterwards spent eternity wandering around trying his best to do good, and to wheedle his way back into public affection, instead of going off to live the life of a penitent hermit, which is what everyone wanted him to do, then I can see that working.

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To be clear, in the 2010 analogy, Nick I've-forgotten-his-name-LD-leader was Saruman (the White Wizard) to Cameron's Sauron. Blair was the ancient history of a former age. Heck, the 20th century seems an alarmingly long time ago now, even though it was only yesterday...

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2 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

I'm not into LoTR, but if The White Wizard was a chap who made a truly enormous mistake, because he was too caught-up with his belief-systems and his friends, sort-of eventually half-realised that he had been party to creating a disaster, and afterwards spent eternity wandering around trying his best to do good, and to wheedle his way back into public affection, instead of going off to live the life of a penitent hermit, which is what everyone wanted him to do, then I can see that working.

 

This may help you to remember ....

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

 

This may help you to remember .... 

 

 

Thank you but I'd really rather not.

 

Though I suppose one might say, Happy Days - in comparison.

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1 hour ago, Nearholmer said:

Didn't even realise the film was a musical.

The book was. (Or tried to be, in amongst the turgid prose.)

Thankfully, the films weren’t.

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