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My wargaming days were over 40 years ago and all strictly 20th century but if I ever took it up again, I think I would be more interested in the so-called 'Colonial Era' with an army of 20mm brave chaps and fearless sepoys.

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3 minutes ago, sem34090 said:

I may have to steal a notice like the one in Annie's signature for the Endar, Norven & Lindisfarne Railway...

Go ahead, - be my guest.

 

1 hour ago, CKPR said:

God's own count(r)y !

A very large number of my ancestors came from Yorkshire.  Many of them worked at the Cadbury factory.

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Returning to track and electrics, if you were to go for commercial trackwork (electrofrog please !), you can play the pre-grouping card and indulge in some deep over the sleepers ballasting to disguise it's origins. Similarly, feel free to post the CA track plan and we'll be happy to work up the electrics (as long as it's DC !).

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6 minutes ago, brianusa said:

What's Cornwall got to do with it?:mellow:

Uhoh!  Do I detect a turf war looming?

 

Jim

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14 minutes ago, Annie said:

Go ahead, - be my guest.

 

A very large number of my ancestors came from Yorkshire.  Many of them worked at the Cadbury factory.

 

Cadbury? er, Rowntree??

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11 minutes ago, Caley Jim said:

If that's you, Annie, I wouldn't DARE tease the engines!!  :nono::scared:

Jim

Ha ha.  That really made me laugh Jim.  

 

Since we were playing house rules and weren't sticking to Games Workshops's inquisitorial standards for gameplay we could substitute any model figures we wanted for the official ones.  As a result a good many of my Wood Elf cavalry were Centaurs, - though that particular Centaur lass used to ride with my High Elf cavalry.

 

Games Workshop were absolute sticklers for using their own model figures in their official tournaments and a player could be disqualified for playing with a competitor's figures.  I showed some of my model figures to the staff at the Auckland city store forgetting that there was a rather lovely Ral Partha Elf warrior figure amongst them and they just about immediately backed away with cries of alarm and cast holy water at me.

They did eventually forgive me though when I took in some of my collection of very early Games Workshop model figures from the Citadel series that they hadn't seen before.

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3 minutes ago, Northroader said:

 

Cadbury? er, Rowntree??

 

Mackintosh's (of Quality Street fame) were also from the hallowed acres of God's Own County.

 

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2 minutes ago, Northroader said:

 

Cadbury? er, Rowntree??

The photo Mum had amongst her genealogy files of about 100 of them all gathered together at the factory had 'Cadbury' written on the blackboard one of them was holding.

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5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

Well, I have started trying to lay track on the test track.

Huzzah!

 

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

I cannot emphasise enough how poor I am at this.

In what regard, and by what metric please? This forum, as you well know, is full to bursting with knowledgeable, helpful and kindly souls. Give them the tools they need :) 

 

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

Then there's wiring, which I'm also crap at (and don't understand).

A large club, for which I'm proving my membership at the moment. I even failed to come up with a functional wiring diagram for my project which is DC, consists of a grand total of three points, no loops, and for which I was (or so I thought) simply following manufacturers instructions. However, help exists here too. In this you are most certainly not alone! 

 

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

I really feel that I have chosen entirely the wrong...

Familiar words to anyone who's ever made decision. About anything. All part of the process, no valid reason to bring it to a halt.

 

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

I'm four years into this project and have not managed a basic working layout. Or a test track.

Who can't measure their achiements by what they've failed to accomplish?

 

...although it must be said the approach is rather unhelpful, smacks of pride, and is dispriting to those who aspire to what you have already done, which also happens to be a much more interesting topic.

 

5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

Sorry, that was not intended to end up as self-indulgent. 

Nor this reply so patronising - you know all this already - but it sounded as though you sought a 50/50 dose of 'there there' and 'toughen up princess'!

 

Chin up James, worse things happen at sea and frequently do many of the best at CA :) 

 

Schooner

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45 minutes ago, CKPR said:

My wargaming days were over 40 years ago

 

.......but I can tell you a thing or two about war-gaming in them days, My Lad.

 

 Not like now. Oh, no! We had to polish our dice until you could see your face in 'em, and every morning we was up at 06:00 sharp, cleaning out our dungeons, and feeding our dragons.

 

See these medals?? See 'em? They mean something they do! Hemel Hempstead - see that? The quarter finals of the Southern Area (Napoleonic and Contemporary Conflicts) [First Edition Rules] that was ....... down to ten 28mm white-metal figures we were, pinned down in the corner of a green baize tablecloth, with only two bits of dyed lichen for cover.........

 

 

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I think the mistake inherent in our hobby is imagining we can be competent in all aspects of layout delivery. research, planning, scenics, rolling stock building, ditto painting, building locos, track, electrics. Logically the answer is do what you are good at and like, and buy the rest off the shelf, or accept a less than perfect result in some areas which nevertheless satisfies the owner. More difficult with electrics, but the answer there is bribe someone else with some of the stuff you are good at to do it for you. As for wargaming, most armies I am aware of spend most of their time on the shelf or in the box, with rare outings to fight. It will all be perfect in the end, but if it isn;'t perfect it just means you havn't reached the end yet.

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4 hours ago, CKPR said:

 

I say, steady on. If I was switching over to painting miniatures, it would be  strictly 54mm Regular and Yeomanry infantry  1890-1914  as per the articles by Roy Dilley & Bryan Fosten in 'Military Modelling' in the late 1970s. Hobbits, honestly...

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Three cheers for the Yeomanry.

 

Here's one I marched to ...

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, nick_bastable said:

now I always thought Yorkshire was another country :mellow:

 

Nick B

 

They do things differently there! 

 

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My favourite is a line by Jimmy Carr:

 

"Tin tin tin" (Yorkshire for "it isn't in the tin")

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

 

.......but I can tell you a thing or two about war-gaming in them days, My Lad.

 

 Not like now. Oh, no! We had to polish our dice until you could see your face in 'em, and every morning we was up at 06:00 sharp, cleaning out our dungeons, and feeding our dragons.

 

See these medals?? See 'em? They mean something they do! Hemel Hempstead - see that? The quarter finals of the Southern Area (Napoleonic and Contemporary Conflicts) [First Edition Rules] that was ....... down to ten 28mm white-metal figures we were, pinned down in the corner of a green baize tablecloth, with only two bits of dyed lichen for cover.........

 

 

Pah ! You had it easy, we had to convert 30 boxes of Airfix ACW Union infantry into the Austrian army of the Seven Week War, sticking heads on with pins  'cos of unglueable polythene, moulding uniforms with plasticene that never dried hard and then painting 'em in Humbrol Authentics enamel that flaked off as soon as you looked at 'em. And then we had to grow our own lichen on t'moors for 50 years. And as for serving a full apprenticeship in the tailoring industry just to be able to make  our own green baize, you tell them young wargamers today that  and they don't believe yer !

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2 hours ago, Annie said:

My own children were very keen on the Games Workshop Fantasy ruleset when they were younger and it was their influence that got me into fantasy wargaming.  Unfortunately as they got older they lost interest leaving me with several armies and no-one to play against.  I did join a local wargaming club, but it was very much a gathering of chaps who were escaping their womenfolk so I was never made to feel particularly welcome.  And then I moved away from the city to the rural countryside where there isn't a miniature wargaming club within 250 kilometres and all my armies are now packed away and I haven't looked at them for years.

 

Truth be told I was more into painting figures than being a successful general, but considering the hours my children and I spent playing fantasy wargaming it certainly wasn't time wasted by any means.

 

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Do you know, I've never played a wargame in my life. Would love to, but never had the opportunity.  Whether fantasy or historicals, I like painting the figures.  I organise them into notional wargames units (you need a figure ratio for a start), but have never done anything with them. 

 

Never had much time for Games Workshop's view of life. 

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1 minute ago, Edwardian said:

Never had much time for Games Workshop's view of life. 

 

They sell pretty good paint, if you can get beyond the strange names they give to colours. Someone on here the other day was recommending touching-up the lower side of a scuffed Deltic (which isn't a sentence you hear everyday) using "Rotting Flesh".

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10 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

 

Do you know, I've never played a wargame in my life. Would love to, but never had the opportunity.  Whether fantasy or historicals, I like painting the figures.  I organise them into notional wargames units (you need a figure ratio for a start), but have never done anything with them. 

 

 

 

http://vintagewargaming.blogspot.com/

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I held out against Games Workshop as I was not happy with their view of life and we played wargames with 1/72 figures and our own rules.  You name it we played the period and had rubbish rules for all sorts of things.  In the end I gave in, Warhammer 40k has units that are a reasonable size, games that last hours, not weeks, and proper rules.  The downside is the hose that is attached to your pocket, and the pockets of your children, that sucks all the money out.  The narrow gauge layout we bought for my middle son  was used more as a base for wargames.

 

James, perhaps you could paint a platoon or two as a trade for track laying and wiring.

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2 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

 

They sell pretty good paint, if you can get beyond the strange names they give to colours. Someone on here the other day was recommending touching-up the lower side of a scuffed Deltic (which isn't a sentence you hear everyday) using "Rotting Flesh".

 

Used to use their Bleached Bone for absolutely everything.  Then then changed the range.

 

I drink Yorkshire Tea now I use Vallejo paints now.

 

1 hour ago, CKPR said:

Returning to track and electrics, if you were to go for commercial trackwork (electrofrog please !), you can play the pre-grouping card and indulge in some deep over the sleepers ballasting to disguise it's origins. Similarly, feel free to post the CA track plan and we'll be happy to work up the electrics (as long as it's DC !).

 

It remains to be seen whether my cross-laced turnout sleepers will be visible under the top dressing.  If not , I can be rather more lax next time!

 

2 hours ago, CKPR said:

My wargaming days were over 40 years ago and all strictly 20th century but if I ever took it up again, I think I would be more interested in the so-called 'Colonial Era' with an army of 20mm brave chaps and fearless sepoys.

 

No sign yet that increasing Wokeness will decolonise wargaming, but I'm sure it will come.

 

In the meantime, look lively lad, there's Zulus out there, fousands of 'em!

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Northroader said:

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old Wiltshire saying: “Red ‘at, no knickers”.

 

You know, when I were a Lad, that were a Yorkshire phrase.

 

Also indicative that a young lady was "no better than she ought to be" was the sporting of a "Castleford hairdo"

 

This was all very confusing when I was growing up. 

 

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1 hour ago, webbcompound said:

I think the mistake inherent in our hobby is imagining we can be competent in all aspects of layout delivery. 

 

Fair, though my mistake is in imagining that I could be competent in any of them.  Before kind parishioners pray in aid my cardboard fumblings, the layout is supposed to be a model railway.  Anything concerning the railway aspect of a model railway seems entirely beyond me!  Ho hum.

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3 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

 

Fair, though my mistake is in imagining that I could be competent in any of them.  Before kind parishioners pray in aid my cardboard fumblings, the layout is supposed to be a model railway.  Anything concerning the railway aspect of a model railway seems entirely beyond me!  Ho hum.

You're in good company - John Ahern, Roye England, Dave Rowe, Bob Barlow, etc

 

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52 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

In the meantime, look lively lad, there's Zulus out there, fousands of 'em!

All my 20mm Martini-Henry ammunition boxes will be modelled open...

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