RMweb Gold McC Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 Presumably the Hornby yellow was a total fiction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Presumably the Hornby yellow was a total fiction? Well they were nicknamed "Silver Queens". (That's the prototypes, not the Tri-ang model). The prototype depressed centre tank of the wagons built to supplement/replace the Silver Queens was painted in Blue Circle all over yellow livery. P Edited June 5, 2018 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 Interesting that we have the attention of a member of the Accurascale crew. Hmmmmmmmmm. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 Interesting that we have the attention of a member of the Accurascale crew. Hmmmmmmmmm. Mike. hehe Mike, entirely personal interest I'm afraid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 hehe Mike, entirely personal interest I'm afraid Shame. I would certainly be interested in bying some if Accurascale where to consider doing a model of one. I have plenty of the old Triang ones waiting to be re-worked, it's just a suitable chassis/parts for one that is putting me off. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I would need 26 of them. Just a point if anyone from Ireland is looking to make them. You'll need to consider Metro Cammel as well as Gloucester builds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I would need 26 of them. [...]You'll need to consider Metro Cammel as well as Gloucester builds. They're surprisingly different! That would mean two lots of tools. The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2018 They're surprisingly different! That would mean two lots of tools. The Nim. A few suspension variations too. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I'd be up for at least 30 initially. I have carried out substantial research on these prototypes so would be willing to help if such a project was considered by a manufacturer. As most of these wagons ran in block formations then I would have thought the multiple sales of at least 10 were quite possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 I have carried out substantial research on these prototypes so would be willing to help if such a project was considered by a manufacturer. Likewise. I assume Project X is dead in the water. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Found these a while ago, but never got around to adding. Hopefully not been on before! https://flic.kr/p/d4Qc8S From picture description and submitted comments: Uddingston-Cliffe empties on the up fast line approaching St. Neots station on Oct 5 1961 https://flic.kr/p/daQPDi Cromptons D6582/6581 head a rake of cement wagons probably the Uddingston-Cliffe working approaching St. Neots on the ECML on May 31 1962 https://flic.kr/p/dT4Qi3 45002 heads through Ashton with a train of cement Tanks on Sep 5 1964. Edited June 6, 2018 by 26power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Found these a while ago, but never got around to adding. Hopefully not been on before! https://flic.kr/p/d4Qc8S From picture description and submitted comments: Uddingston-Cliffe empties on the up fast line approaching St. Neots station on Oct 5 1961 https://flic.kr/p/daQPDi Cromptons D6582/6581 head a rake of cement wagons probably the Uddingston-Cliffe working approaching St. Neots on the ECML on May 31 1962 https://flic.kr/p/dT4Qi3 45002 heads through Ashton with a train of cement Tanks on Sep 5 1964. All three: a 404 'Page not found' error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 All three: a 404 'Page not found' error Not on my PC. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 All three: a 404 'Page not found' error I had that for two of them, but came back later and they worked fine! Worthwhile, especially the first one, a 9F on the ECML in October 1961 when they were very new. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134770-cemflo-by-accurascale/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2018 Interesting that we have the attention of a member of the Accurascale crew. Hmmmmmmmmm. Mike. hehe Mike, entirely personal interest I'm afraid You little liar Tommy!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_R_M Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) . Edited June 7, 2018 by Irish_R_M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Well they were nicknamed "Silver Queens". (That's the prototypes, not the Tri-ang model). The prototype depressed centre tank of the wagons built to supplement/replace the Silver Queens was painted in Blue Circle all over yellow livery. P Some of Blue Circle's later depressed centre 4-wheel wagons when new in a siding at Crayford in 1973 (photo taken from a passing train) - 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2018 Some more classic Silver Queens from JM Boyes via Ernie Brack Long wheel base Bulk Cement wagon Darlington South 18-01-64 - LA207 I think https://flic.kr/p/26BqCGR https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40868689080/sizes/h/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41751359675/sizes/h/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2018 Some of Blue Circle's later depressed centre 4-wheel wagons when new in a siding at Crayford in 1973 (photo taken from a passing train) - crayford-siding-73.jpg Which 4mm model closest represents this wagon? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Which 4mm model closest represents this wagon? Mike. Apart from the Lima (now Hornby?) one, are any others available? Dapol used to one, whose origins were never clear to me. The Lima one suffers from riding high; they would benefit from having the axle-guards and suspension removed and MJT or similar etched units fitting- the latest manufacturer of such items is Stenson Models (http://www.stensonmodels.co.uk/product-category/all-products/4mm-products/bogies-suspension-units-sprung/ ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Which 4mm model closest represents this wagon? Mike. Any help? http://paul3715.tripod.com/Pcatanks.htm P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2018 Any help? http://paul3715.tripod.com/Pcatanks.htm P I have a stash of these bought optimistically with no idea of their suitability for me, which probably sounds familiar to some! So are they basically the same wagon and underframe, just built by various companies at different times? I'm thinking a renumber might be all that is required, subject to checking things like axleboxes, pipework and walkways etc. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted February 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2019 This is a fascinating thread. I am particularly interested in the equivalent train in the late 1950s or very early 1960s. I have seen pictures with Presflo wagons on the ECML in the late 1950s with a 9F but generally much shorter than this working. Did an equivalent service run in the ‘Presflo era’ and what was the traction? I’ve seen 9Fs, but I seem to remember reading a quote from P.N. Townsend that only a A2/3 could master the train, although I’m not sure if that was in the Cemflo or Presflo era. Can anyone guide me to some photos of ECML cement with Presflos? thanks Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, thegreenhowards said: This is a fascinating thread. I am particularly interested in the equivalent train in the late 1950s or very early 1960s. I have seen pictures with Presflo wagons on the ECML in the late 1950s with a 9F but generally much shorter than this working. Did an equivalent service run in the ‘Presflo era’ and what was the traction? I’ve seen 9Fs, but I seem to remember reading a quote from P.N. Townsend that only a A2/3 could master the train, although I’m not sure if that was in the Cemflo or Presflo era. Can anyone guide me to some photos of ECML cement with Presflos? thanks Andy Prior to the introduction of the Cemflos and the building of APCM's Uddingson facility; the forunner of The Cliffe/Uddingston Cemflos was the 11:25 West Thurrock to Scotland. This was made up from Presflos originating from the various Thames cement works. In Scotland the train was split with one portion going to Leith and the remainder continuing on to Cumbuslang. Usually 9F powered to York, BR's Claim was it was the longest through haul of a fully fitted block load. No idea of the providence of this image. Should anyone object to it being here. I shall remove it. P 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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