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Presumably the Hornby yellow was a total fiction?

 

Well they were nicknamed "Silver Queens". (That's the prototypes, not the Tri-ang model).

 

The prototype depressed centre tank of the wagons built to supplement/replace the Silver Queens was painted in Blue Circle all over yellow livery.

 

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Interesting that we have the attention of a member of the Accurascale crew.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

 

Mike.

 

 

hehe Mike, entirely personal interest I'm afraid :)

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hehe Mike, entirely personal interest I'm afraid :)

Shame. I would certainly be interested in bying some if Accurascale where to consider doing a model of one. I have plenty of the old Triang ones waiting to be re-worked, it's just a suitable chassis/parts for one that is putting me off.

 

Paul J.

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I would need 26 of them. 

 

Just a point if anyone from Ireland is looking to make them. You'll need to consider Metro Cammel as well as Gloucester builds. 

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I'd be up for at least 30 initially.

 

I have carried out substantial research on these prototypes so would be willing to help if such a project was considered by a manufacturer. As most of these wagons ran in block formations then I would have thought the multiple sales of at least 10 were quite possible.

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I have carried out substantial research on these prototypes so would be willing to help if such a project was considered by a manufacturer.

 

Likewise. I assume Project X is dead in the water.

 

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Found these a while ago, but never got around to adding.  Hopefully not been on before!

 

https://flic.kr/p/d4Qc8S

From picture description and submitted comments:

Uddingston-Cliffe empties on the up fast line approaching St. Neots station on Oct 5 1961

 

https://flic.kr/p/daQPDi

Cromptons D6582/6581 head a rake of cement wagons probably the Uddingston-Cliffe working approaching St. Neots on the ECML on May 31 1962

 

https://flic.kr/p/dT4Qi3

45002 heads through Ashton with a train of cement Tanks on Sep 5 1964.

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Found these a while ago, but never got around to adding.  Hopefully not been on before!

 

https://flic.kr/p/d4Qc8S

From picture description and submitted comments:

Uddingston-Cliffe empties on the up fast line approaching St. Neots station on Oct 5 1961

 

https://flic.kr/p/daQPDi

Cromptons D6582/6581 head a rake of cement wagons probably the Uddingston-Cliffe working approaching St. Neots on the ECML on May 31 1962

 

https://flic.kr/p/dT4Qi3

45002 heads through Ashton with a train of cement Tanks on Sep 5 1964.

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I had that for two of them, but came back later and they worked fine! Worthwhile, especially the first one, a 9F on the ECML in October 1961 when they were very new.

 

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Well they were nicknamed "Silver Queens". (That's the prototypes, not the Tri-ang model).

 

The prototype depressed centre tank of the wagons built to supplement/replace the Silver Queens was painted in Blue Circle all over yellow livery.

 

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Some of Blue Circle's later depressed centre 4-wheel wagons when new in a siding at Crayford in 1973 (photo taken from a passing train) -

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Which 4mm model closest represents this wagon?

 

Mike.

Apart from the Lima (now Hornby?) one, are any others available? Dapol used to one, whose origins were never clear to me. The Lima one suffers from riding high; they would benefit from having the axle-guards and suspension removed and MJT or similar etched units fitting- the latest manufacturer of such items is Stenson Models (http://www.stensonmodels.co.uk/product-category/all-products/4mm-products/bogies-suspension-units-sprung/ )

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I have a stash of these bought optimistically with no idea of their suitability for me, which probably sounds familiar to some!

So are they basically the same wagon and underframe, just built by various companies at different times?

I'm thinking a renumber might be all that is required, subject to checking things like axleboxes, pipework and walkways etc.

 

Mike.

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This is a fascinating thread. I am particularly  interested in the equivalent train in the late 1950s or very early 1960s. I have seen pictures with Presflo wagons on the ECML in the late 1950s with a 9F but generally much shorter than this working. Did an equivalent service run in the ‘Presflo era’ and what was the traction? I’ve seen 9Fs, but I seem to remember reading a quote from P.N. Townsend that only a A2/3 could master the train, although I’m not sure if that was in the Cemflo or Presflo era. Can anyone guide me to some photos of ECML cement with Presflos?

 

thanks

 

Andy

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This is a fascinating thread. I am particularly  interested in the equivalent train in the late 1950s or very early 1960s. I have seen pictures with Presflo wagons on the ECML in the late 1950s with a 9F but generally much shorter than this working. Did an equivalent service run in the ‘Presflo era’ and what was the traction? I’ve seen 9Fs, but I seem to remember reading a quote from P.N. Townsend that only a A2/3 could master the train, although I’m not sure if that was in the Cemflo or Presflo era. Can anyone guide me to some photos of ECML cement with Presflos?

 

thanks

 

Andy

 

Prior to the introduction of the Cemflos and the building of APCM's Uddingson facility; the forunner of The Cliffe/Uddingston Cemflos was the 11:25 West Thurrock to Scotland. This was made up from Presflos originating from the various Thames cement works. In Scotland the train was split with one portion going to Leith and the remainder continuing on to Cumbuslang. Usually 9F powered to York, BR's Claim was it was the longest through haul of a fully fitted block load.

 

92199-APCM-Presflo.jpg.895b74cc7e0f68fa73b2cbff060db19c.jpg

 

No idea of the providence of this image. Should anyone object to it being here. I shall remove it.

 

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