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Hi guys,

 

Is there anywhere I can find out more information about Mk1 GUVs with gangways? I've tried googling but apart from Jim SWs excellent P4 New Street website where he mentions making some I can't find any information about them. Information such as liveries and their use is what I'm after. I'm modelling late 1980s/early 1990s and have seen a photo of a model of one in Royal Mail livery which looks quite smart which I wouldn't mind adding to a postal train. 

 

Thanks very much.

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They were converted to replace the ageing (and draughty) Siphon Gs on Newspaper trains; the former end doors were replaced with a bow end, and I believe they were all fitted with toilets, to obviate the need to run a passenger coach in the formation, as had been the case previously. They also had ETH fitted; some Siphon Gs were retained, and also were fitted with the ETH cables, at least. Initial livery was BR Blue, with 'Newspapers' in large Rail Alphabet script towards the LH end. When the newspaper traffic was lost, I believe they were re-assigned to postal traffic.

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Brilliant, thanks for all the replies team. Aside from adding a gangway to each end what would I have to do to a Bachmann one to accurately model it? Does anyone happen to have any photos of a gangwayed GUV in Royal Mail red?

 

Thanks again

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Brilliant, thanks for all the replies team. Aside from adding a gangway to each end what would I have to do to a Bachmann one to accurately model it?

You need to have a small square opaque window for the toilet, along with water tank filler pipes:

 

http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p631224373/h117c4706#h117c4706

http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p631224373/h117c4706#h8ec488

 

There are other side views too.

If you're looking for other pics, the TOPS code is NLX

 

Depending on how far you want to go, you'll also have to replace the buffers.

As a normal GUV, it would have sprung buffers and screw couplings, but as an NLX with gangway and buckeyes it would need retractable buffers (as fitted to normal LHCS)

 

http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p631224373/h148319ee#h148319ee

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There are a couple of photos, (not brilliant ones), of a couple I took at Worcester in Dec 80, on my Flickr site here, https://flic.kr/p/rqFW6K and here https://flic.kr/p/rqHuUj One of them is on B1 bogies with oil axleboxes and the other on B4's.

 

I also have another photo on the site here https://flic.kr/p/rovMWL of another GUV at Ferm Park CS. taken in Feb 81, which retains end doors but has been fitted with ETH and Pass-com at one end, making it impossible to open the end door. It may have been done for Newspaper traffic but was not labled as such.

 

Paul J.

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It was a while ago (longer than I thought!) that REx Modeller had the article http://www.railexpress.co.uk/news/rem-march-2011-contents .

 

I have made Tom Curtis, who did the conversion and wrote the article, aware of this thread as he is only an occasional visitor to RMWeb so he'll probably keep an eye on it now.

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These vans have always fascinated me. I went inside one (94024 I think) at the Wolverton Works open day in 1987. The inside was painted white as I remember and had flourescent lights together with fold-down/up tables along the sides for newspaper packing. The toilet was very basic and in one corner. They certainly all received B4/5 bogies in the late 80s, had buckeye couplings and retractable buffers. Sadly I don't have photos now of that visit.

 

edited for spelling

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Interestingly, the REM article suggests adding the new ends to the existing sides and lengthening the roof whilst the RM article suggests shortening the sides before adding the new corridor ends and reshaping the ends of the existing-length roof.

I'd be interested to know which approach is more correct - don't suppose anyone happens to have accurate diagrams or dimensions for these vehicles, or first-hand knowledge of how the conversion was done?

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