TomJ Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Forget the Ryde Tunnel - looks like the limit on the loading gauge is the ferry!! Looks like a tight squeeze getting them on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2020 I am waiting for the inevitable idiot to moan on social media, asking why it wasn't delivered by rail.... Yes, they do exist. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2020 Must have made a bit of a mess of the ferry schedule. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2020 I am wondering if it was specially chartered as WightLink do have a spare one parked up opposite Gunwharf Quay most of the day at the moment which could have been used. The video from the Isle of Wight paper seems to show the lorry and escort van as the only vehicles on the car deck. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher125 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, John M Upton said: I am wondering if it was specially chartered as WightLink do have a spare one parked up opposite Gunwharf Quay most of the day at the moment which could have been used. The video from the Isle of Wight paper seems to show the lorry and escort van as the only vehicles on the car deck. Nope, they both came over on scheduled sailings but I think they let the other vehicles off first. They aren't particularly busy at the moment anyway, unsurprisingly. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 17 hours ago, TomJ said: Forget the Ryde Tunnel - looks like the limit on the loading gauge is the ferry!! Looks like a tight squeeze getting them on Yes, but they won't have the low-loader under them when they get into service. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 At least VivaRail make them look a little different - the poor IOW know what their next train is decades before they receive them. I am going to make a wild stab in the dark guess that if there ever is a replacement for the 484 it will be S Stock. The passengers will see a big improvement in headroom and they now have wifi to sit down and watch a movie (intro or a music video) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, woodenhead said: I am going to make a wild stab in the dark guess that if there ever is a replacement for the 484 it will be S Stock. C'mon ............. it'll be the S-Stock Replacement Stock ..... or the S-Stock Replacement Stock Replacement Stock ........... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 The Southern Railway used to bring new stock from pompy to Newport IOW on a special floating bridge and then lifting them straight onto the track in Newport quay.They were taken to Ryde works for pre service after which of course they entered service.Several locos at a time came over as did new coaches and wagons pity the line is not there now . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) I've seen a number of photos of railway vehicles being transported from Southampton to the IOW, rather than from Portsmouth. Southampton dock's giant floating crane was itself used as a barge to transport them, as well as providing the lifting gear... Note Southampton's famous floating dock in the second photo. Edited November 20, 2020 by Ron Ron Ron 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) An earlier train ferry used to transport railway vehicles to the IOW (circa 1920?)...... Edited November 21, 2020 by Ron Ron Ron 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Ron Ron said: An earlier train ferry used to transport railway vehicles to the IOW (circa 1920?)...... Oo, I feel a model coming on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 "Carrier". Second hand from the Tay (photo probably at Burntisland) used for a train ferry service from Langstone to St Helens for wagons during the 1880's. Not very succesful, it couldnt really cope with the open waters compared to the Tay. No known photos of any mainland wagons on the Island although there are records of some wagon repair bills for Isle of Wight Central wagons sent in by mainland companies. There is a very nice model of Burntisland about which includes "Carrier" and its dock. The floating crane pictured was the normal delivery method used by the SR, stock being landed at Medina Wharf. Earlier an Admiralty crane was used once for a loco delivery to Ryde Pier. Previously to this locos and stock were delivered by barge and offloaded using temporary track & ramps. The old train ferry birth at St Helens was a favourite for this as this still had sidings running end on to the sea. All 1966 onwards deliveries have used lorries and the car ferry. Pete 1 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, IWCR said: "Carrier". Second hand from the Tay (photo probably at Burntisland) used for a train ferry service from Langstone to St Helens for wagons during the 1880's. Not very succesful, it couldnt really cope with the open waters compared to the Tay. .... Wrong on two counts - Mr.Bouch might disagree about the silvery Tay being calm as you imply ....... er- and Burntisland's on the other Firth, the Forth. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher125 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 484001 has moved to St Johns tonight under battery power, there's a video on twitter showing her passing Brading: https://twitter.com/PhotographyRue/status/1329959324777582592 19 hours ago, lmsforever said: The Southern Railway used to bring new stock from pompy to Newport IOW on a special floating bridge and then lifting them straight onto the track in Newport quay.They were taken to Ryde works for pre service after which of course they entered service.Several locos at a time came over as did new coaches and wagons pity the line is not there now . You might be thinking of Medina Wharf near Cowes? Newport Quay near the station was technically rail-served by a low-level bridge across the river, but only briefly and the sidings were probably never used. Edited November 21, 2020 by Christopher125 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 Link is broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 Is there a list anywhere of the ten cars of Class 484 stock's original LU numbers please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher125 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Sorry, looks like it was reposted. Try these: http://www.facebook.com/john.mitchell.90226628/videos/3616455335064977/ http://twitter.com/PhotographyRue/status/1329959324777582592 Edited November 21, 2020 by Christopher125 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Christopher125 said: 484001 has moved to St Johns tonight under battery power Didn’t realise they had any battery capability. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Vivrail have done a good job on these new units as they did on the units used on the lne to Bedford at leatsst the donor units were good quality stock.At least the island will be able to travel in clean comfortable units that will be reliable providing a good train service . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 I see (or hear rather) that they retain the rather insipid LT air whistle. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: I see (or hear rather) that they retain the rather insipid LT air whistle. I quite like the London Underground air whistles actually (which are also fitted to the more recent S stock). Do the current class 483s still have these? On a separate note, obviously the 484s fit through Ryde tunnel but did any work have to be done to permit this? Obviously lowering the track there would bring back the problems with flooding that prompted it to be raised in the first place. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: Didn’t realise they had any battery capability. Might have answered my own question on this one - I understand from comments elsewhere online that it is temporarily rigged to run off batteries that sit in the passenger saloon, to allow it to be tested initially at Vivarail’s site, and now on Island Line with power switched off (so doesn’t have permanent battery capability). Edited November 21, 2020 by 009 micro modeller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 54 years ago next month (December 1966).... . 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: I quite like the London Underground air whistles actually (which are also fitted to the more recent S stock). Do the current class 483s still have these? Yes they do. Maybe not the exact same note but certainly similar. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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