robb1090 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) Welcome to the thread following the construction of our new 7mm scale, 0-14 gauge layout, set in the trenches of the western front during the First World War. We hope you enjoy what you find here and we welcome your comments. A Background History to the Layout The Battle of the Somme in 1916 had pushed the British supply system to breaking point. Without adequate food or ammunition the army could not fight effectively, so to solve this problem, a network of tactical light railways were constructed to haul supplies to the front line. These lines were known as the War Department Light Railways and were of 60cm gauge. They were constructed and operated by the Royal Engineers. In 1917 the 35th Light Railway Operating Company was formed in France from railwaymen combed out of other units. The company consisted of 3 officers and 262 men, whose job was to man the trains, traffic control posts and marshalling yards along their section of railway. Although the company was under the command of a captain, detachments were often sent to operate outlying parts of the system where they were left to their own devices out of necessity. Upon arrival in France, the company was sent to the area north of Arras. It is part of the railway under their control that the layout represents. In this area the mainline ran approximately north-south, parallel to the front line trenches but about 8 miles behind them. The section of line depicted by the layout is centred on the control point at Ferme du Pont (Bridge Farm). Here a branch line leaves the mainline to head up towards the front to serve the artillery and supply dumps of the British First Army. A pair of loops are provided at the control point to allow the splitting and marshalling of trains before they head down the branch. As well as these loops there is also a short siding serving a small jetty on the canal for the Inland Waterways Transport barges. These barges, actually RE pontoons, were used to transport supplies in the local area where the roads were impassable. Although the layout is set in a fictional location and the 35th Light Railway Operating Company never existed, the historical events are real. The layout is inspired by the plights of the Light Railway Operating Companies on the Western Front and the often highly dangerous work they undertook. Edited July 9, 2017 by robb1090 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 What will you be using for the basis of the simplex locos? Will they be other locos modified or scratchbuilt. I saw the salvage squad program about one of these locos (ironically one that never made it to the western front) and will follow this layout with interest. Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 What will you be using for the basis of the simplex locos? Will they be other locos modified or scratchbuilt. I saw the salvage squad program about one of these locos (ironically one that never made it to the western front) and will follow this layout with interest. Kev Or the Wrightlines kit? I think these are available from ABS again? Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb1090 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 We are using a mixture of white metal 40hp simplex kits from Wrightlines and etched brass 20hp simplex kits from Nigel Lawton. The 20hp simplex kit was originally produced in 4mm scale but Nigel agreed to produce a 7mm scale version for us. Since then he has made the 7mm scale kit available on his website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I am presently working on a Dick Kerr Petrol Electric from Worsley Works, and a number of wagons from Wrightlines and Mercian for this layout, such as here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/topic/10010-mercian-models-wdlr-h-class-wagon-kit-7mm/ Wrightlines also do a kit (presently unavailable) for the Baldwin 4-6-0 tank locos, however at the moment we are on our own for the Alcos and Hunslets. The A, B and C class wagons also need scratchbuilding, and a start has been made on classes B and C. (There aren't many photos of A class wagons.) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=45151 Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggy Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hi, I'm the third member of the group building this layout. Here are some of the photos that inspired the layout. We I won't bore you with to much detail about the baseboards, but we have used open frame boards with extruded polystyrene for the landscape. Hopefully this will allow us to create a shell damaged appearance. Since taking these photos we have raised the river bed as it didn't look right. I'm currently working on the track partly using techniques developed by John Clutterbuck. I will post some photos soon. Ben 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Do you plan to have a casualty clearing station near the control post? If so will you be placing generic soldiers or members of the 51st Highland Division (The Ladies from Hell)? Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggy Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Do you plan to have a casualty clearing station near the control post? If so will you be placing generic soldiers or members of the 51st Highland Division (The Ladies from Hell)? Kev Hi, No, we won't have a CCS, but, we will run trains of wounded to an offstage CCS. It is however something that we would consider for a future extension. Ben 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 A most unusual layout in the making and very interesting subject matter. Keep the photos and news coming! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 12, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12, 2010 A most unusual layout in the making and very interesting subject matter. Keep the photos and news coming! Simon It's been an education seeing strange etched brass kits for really obscure prototypes and laser cut plastic wagons being built over the last few months. It's looking like this will be a top class layout with the attention to detail these three put into thier projects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi, Here's a photo of a bridge pier I have constructed for this layout. This is a test build to make sure the design is right. We have decided to use slightly smaller timber for the final build bridge piers as we think that the timber used on this test build is a little chunky. Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Where are you sourcing figures from? And have you thought about the remnants of a crashed aircraft somewhere? There's a fair amount of 1:48 figures available, but I don't know about 1:43, although to be fair against narrow gauge stock, the difference isn't as obvious. It's a rather interesting project, and it's good to see the progress on here. Keep up the good work J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinW Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 An interesting project that I will continue to follow. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Here's a couple of photos showing progress so far Also all of the track is laid on the traverser and sector plate, some form of track indexing will be the next thing to be added to them, although more track needs to be laid on the scenic section first. More pics to follow Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2010 Looking good, although the track looks far too even and neat for a war zone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Thanks Paul, the track does have a few kinks in it, its not quite as even as the photos imply Here's a couple of photos showing the track and point construction using flat bottom rail, timber sleepers and spikes Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 It's really taking shape, and a good looking shape at that! Is that a Kerr-Stuart I see sitting in it's bare metal? That trackwork is rather smart too (if smart is the right word for anything near a battlefield!) I'm looking forward to seeing it in reality. Was the disc I sent any use? J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 It's really taking shape, and a good looking shape at that! Is that a Kerr-Stuart I see sitting in it's bare metal? That trackwork is rather smart too (if smart is the right word for anything near a battlefield!) I'm looking forward to seeing it in reality. Was the disc I sent any use? J Not quite - it's a Dick, Kerr petrol electric. The lightweight appearance of the track is most impressive. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I got the Kerr bit right at least! To be fair, I realised my error about ten minutes after I wrote it, but for some reason didn't correct myself! J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I'm looking forward to seeing it in reality. Was the disc I sent any use? J Thanks James, yes the disc was very interesting, there was some good ww1 footage on it. There's a lot of work needed on the petrol electric, but it runs, allowing us to test the track. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Here's some photos of the bridge we have been working on today: Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 We've made some more progress on the layout today, here is a photo of the first bridge after some more work with my part built 20HP Simplex and a D class wagon for scale: Next a start was made on the second bridge: A large amount of wiring has also been completed under the boards with the DCC bus wires installed along with the inter-board wiring connections for point motors and uncoupling magnets. Mike 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hi, We have made some more progress on the layout, Mike (49395) has been busy building the shoring for the embankment and the jetty. I've been laying more track, it takes a long time using spikes! Also the electrics are coming on. Ben 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 6, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'd missed this before but it looks like a fascinating subject, very much under the unusual heading. The timber retaining wall on the river looks like it must have taken a fair while to make but was worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBedding Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Most impressive - both in terms of execution an choice of subject. I've only seen a couple of similarly themed layouts (both 4mm) before, but this already appears to be setting a new standard. I'll watch this develop with great interest - crack on chaps! (PS - If 'Rupert' and 'Rodney' were 2 of the 3 original Officers of the 17th LROD, who was the third? ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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