Popular Post 81A Oldoak Posted March 6, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2016 MINERVA MODEL RAILWAYS ANNOUNCES ITS SECOND LOCOMOTIVE – THE KERR STUART VICTORY CLASS 0-6-0 TANK LOCOMOTIVE IN 7MM ‘O’ GAUGE (1:43.5) FOR 32MM STANDARD GAUGE Penarth, United Kingdom, 5th March 2016 Minerva Model Railways, the independent company formed by Chris Basten and Chris Klein, announces the production of a finescale, injection-moulded 0 gauge model of the Kerr Stuart 0-6-0 tank locomotive in 7mm scale (1:43.5, for 32mm standard gauge). It is Minerva’s second model and follows the successful launch of its acclaimed Peckett E Class 0-4-0ST locomotive in 2015. Ten locomotives of this class were built for the Inland Waterways & Docks Department in 1917. Built to mainline standards, the ten Victories were sold by the Railway Operating Department at the end of the World War I to a variety of buyers including the Alexandra (Newport & South Wales) Docks and Railway, Brecon & Merthyr Railway, East Kent Light Railway (EKLR) and other private users including collieries. Three were inherited by the Great Western Railway, two of which entered British Railways (BR) service surviving until 1954 and 1955. The EKLR locomotive entered Southern Railway ownership and finished its life with BR, though it was scrapped in 1949 and never carried its allocated number of 30948. Seven of the locomotives ended up in service with the National Coal Board with the last examples being scrapped in 1969. None have survived. The Kerr Stuart will be built to the same specification as the Minerva Peckett. It will include an accessory set with optional moulded toolboxes, sandboxes and tank vents. An etched brass fret will include all 10 works’ plates and lamp irons. Work is also being done to offer an ‘add- on’ kit to include riveted side tanks and Great Western style dome and safety valve for those wanting an authentic conversion for the Alexandra (Newport & South Wales) Docks and Railway locomotives as running in late Great Western or British Railways days Technical Specification • An injection-moulded ready-to-run body • Over 200 individual components • Die cast metal chassis • Fine scale wheels • Six-wheel electrical pickup • High-torque flywheel-equipped motor, driving the rear axle • 40:1 precision gearbox for slow, smooth running • Options include DC, DCC ready, DCC-fitted and DCC sound fitted • Cab detail • Sprung buffers • Hook draw-gear with three-link couplings • Choice of three liveries: lined light green, lined red, unlined black. A bespoke DCC sound project is being developed. Design work is almost complete and the Victory is expected to be available in time for Christmas 2016. The retail prices including UK VAT are: DC - £270 + £9 carriage DCC fitted – £320 + £9 carriage DCC and sound fitted - £390 + £9 carriage Advanced orders will be taken until 05/09/2016 with a discount of £20 and free postage and packing. The models will only be available direct from Minerva Models via mail and telephone order, the Minerva website and from the Minerva Models’ stand at selected model railway shows. Further information is available from the Minerva Models website www.minervamodelrailways.co.uk and you can follow us on Facebook. You can also contact us via e-mail sales@minervamodelrailways.co.uk or telephone 02920 531246. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Hi Chris('s), That sounds very good indeed, I wish you well with it. Will it have any sprung axles at all, please? Also, what about some kind of "stay alive" function for (at least) the sound fitted version, please? If it has these kind of refinements*, I could easily by tempted back to the senior scale. Cheers, John E. *Neccessary imho for completely reliable running with DCC sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 MINERVA MODEL RAILWAYS ANNOUNCES ITS SECOND LOCOMOTIVE – THE KERR STUART VICTORY CLASS 0-6-0 TANK LOCOMOTIVE IN 7MM ‘O’ GAUGE (1:43.5) FOR 32MM STANDARD GAUGE Penarth, United Kingdom, 5th March 2016 ...05/09/2106... Nice long order period then. Jokes aside the CAD looks marvelous. Good luck with the project. Looks absolutely wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Very nice. Will you be sending order forms to existing customers or do we need to download? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 £250 post free for "early bird" orders is a very tempting price. Think the Peckett was £235, so the Victory isn't a victim of the price hikes and delays which are hot topics on the OO rtr area of the forum. Will there light green colour be the same as the Peckett? Hoping it is. Guessing there order form will be a downloadable PDF. The light green colour and lining will be identical to the lined green Minerva Peckett, which is also the same shade as the first Ixion lined green Hudswell Clarke. Order form attached for your convenience. Regards, Chris Minerva Victory Order Form.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It doesn't suit anything i model, but it will help to move some smaller scale modellers up to O gauge. I hope the Kerr Stuart and Minerva flourish. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Outside cylinder 0-6-0T with sidetanks and a big, tough looking job - heaven, and a must have (yes alright, Dock Green is already infested with an abundance of industrials but....). What shade of red is the red? I think we should be told. Chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Outside cylinder 0-6-0T with sidetanks and a big, tough looking job - heaven, and a must have (yes alright, Dock Green is already infested with an abundance of industrials but....). What shade of red is the red? I think we should be told. Chaz Chaz, We are still debating the exact shade of red, but it could be a close match to the Ixion Hudswell Clarke. We'll post details in due course. The lining on the red version will be blocked black and yellow. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Another must buy from the two Chris'! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Chaz, We are still debating the exact shade of red, but it could be a close match to the Ixion Hudswell Clarke. We'll post details in due course. The lining on the red version will be blocked black and yellow. Chris Now, don't you think it would look really good with a deep crimson lake? Black and yellow lining sounds good and a Stanier type hooter in the sound project would also sound good, yes? (and I'm thinking "Josephine" for the nameplates.) Chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Well done Minerva for another great announcement to support rtr O Gauge which will be delivered in a sensible timeframe at a great price. Looking forward to seeing the final product when it arrived, it is certainly something different to complement the Peckett! I don't think my arm can be twisted on this one (I am saving for he aforementioned Peckett!!) but I am sure my resolved will be tested over the coming months! Fantastic stuff! Edited March 8, 2016 by south_tyne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Well done Minerva for another great announcement to support rtr O Gauge which will be delivered in a sensible timeframe at a great price. Looking forward to seeing the final product when it arrived, it is certainly something different to complement the Peckett! I don't think my arm can be twisted on this one (I am saving for he aforementioned Peckett!!) but I am sure my resolved will be tested over the coming months! Fantastic stuff! "I can resist everything except temptation." Oscar Wilde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbys65 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 And what about the shirts Chris did they go down well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I've just seen the picture, on your Cwm Bach layout, of one of these locos next to a Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST and it looks huge in comparison. Can you please give the dimensions, particularly the height above rail. I'm currently building a loco shed and want to make sure the door is high enough for one of these beasts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I've just seen the picture, on your Cwm Bach layout, of one of these locos next to a Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST and it looks huge in comparison. Can you please give the dimensions, particularly the height above rail. I'm currently building a loco shed and want to make sure the door is high enough for one of these beasts. Putting anything next to the Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST is an eye opener - try buffering it up to a 12T 10' WB van. The HC saddle tank is a very small loco' - the Peckett is a much bigger engine, despite it being an 0-4-0ST! I suspect if your door is tall enough for a BR van to pass through it the Kerr Stuart will have no problem. Chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 The drawings have already been referred to. 12ft 10in to top of chimney and 9ft wide. More than a foot higher than a BR diag 208 van. It is a large locomotive! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 The drawings have already been referred to. 12ft 10in to top of chimney and 9ft wide. More than a foot higher than a BR diag 208 van. It is a large locomotive! Paul Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoat Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Correct. For comparison, the Peckett is 11'9" from rail to chimney top. The same average British dimension is 12'10", excluding Scotland, where it is an extra 8", taking it to 13'6". With thanks to Google!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I hope the model does really well but it does strike me as a slightly unusual choice. It is really too big for any 'light railway' purposes or the traditional tightly curved shunting / industrial yard schemes that are popular in 0. It would be interesting to know why this one was chosen above the smaller Kerr Stuarts 0-6-0T of similar design. I'm no expert but I know there was an 'Argentina' class with a much smaller boiler (mainly for export?) and a slightly smaller 'Triana' class that was ordered (but never delivered) for the Selsey Tramway. I'm still hoping for an RTR Manning Wardle I or K (small, beautiful engines!). I suppose I should just start building one and then Dapol or Minerva will definitely bring one out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Very interesting. Which colour would be best for the EKLR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 I hope the model does really well but it does strike me as a slightly unusual choice. It is really too big for any 'light railway' purposes or the traditional tightly curved shunting / industrial yard schemes that are popular in 0. It would be interesting to know why this one was chosen above the smaller Kerr Stuarts 0-6-0T of similar design. I'm no expert but I know there was an 'Argentina' class with a much smaller boiler (mainly for export?) and a slightly smaller 'Triana' class that was ordered (but never delivered) for the Selsey Tramway. I'm still hoping for an RTR Manning Wardle I or K (small, beautiful engines!). I suppose I should just start building one and then Dapol or Minerva will definitely bring one out... One of the Victories was acquired by the East Kent Light Railway, part of the Colonel Stephens empire of light railways. The coupled wheelbase of the Victory is 6' + 6', not much longer than 5'9" + 5'9" for the Ixion Hudswell Clarke and so will negotiate sharp curves. We have specified a minimum radius of 36" and will see just how tight it can go when we receive the first engineering prototype later in the spring. We think there is a gap for an outside cylinder 0-6-0T and we also wanted a locomotive that was used by some of the mainline companies. The Victory fits this bill with three going into GWR service, two of which survived into the mid-50s in BR ownership. The aforementioned East Kent Light Railway engine also passed in BR ownership and was allocated a BR number, but was scrapped in 1949 and never carried the new number. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hi Chris('s), That sounds very good indeed, I wish you well with it. Will it have any sprung axles at all, please? Also, what about some kind of "stay alive" function for (at least) the sound fitted version, please? If it has these kind of refinements*, I could easily by tempted back to the senior scale. Cheers, John E. *Neccessary imho for completely reliable running with DCC sound. Hello again Chris' I hope my post above was not in any way disrespectful to you or the design and running qualities of your locos, I understand they are very good in that respect. I was merely wondering about the mechanical specification, is all. If you simply missed it, may I ask again, please? Many thanks, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 One of the Victories was acquired by the East Kent Light Railway, part of the Colonel Stephens empire of light railways. The coupled wheelbase of the Victory is 6' + 6', not much longer than 5'9" + 5'9" for the Ixion Hudswell Clarke and so will negotiate sharp curves. We have specified a minimum radius of 36" and will see just how tight it can go when we receive the first engineering prototype later in the spring. We think there is a gap for an outside cylinder 0-6-0T and we also wanted a locomotive that was used by some of the mainline companies. The Victory fits this bill with three going into GWR service, two of which survived into the mid-50s in BR ownership. The aforementioned East Kent Light Railway engine also passed in BR ownership and was allocated a BR number, but was scrapped in 1949 and never carried the new number. Thanks - you are absolutely right about the EKR Collier of course but because of her weight she was limited to the short and very heavily-laid Shepherdswell to Tilmanstone section. I don't think she operated on anything other than coal trains but I could be wrong. It would be interesting to see any pictures of her at work on the EKR if anyone has them. I think even the Triana class was quite heavy for light railway use and it was the main reason why the WSR cancelled their order. But not to worry - if I am honest I will probably buy one anyway! Good luck with it. Great to see more affordable RTR in O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hello again Chris' I hope my post above was not in any way disrespectful to you or the design and running qualities of your locos, I understand they are very good in that respect. I was merely wondering about the mechanical specification, is all. If you simply missed it, may I ask again, please? Many thanks, John E. John, At least one axle will be sprung allowing vertical movement about articulated coupling rods. The DCC versions will not have stay-alive fitted as it is an 0-6-0. My experience of locos with more than four wheels collecting current is that stay-alive is nice, but not essential. However, contacts should be on the equipment to facilitate the fitting of stay-alive for which there is plenty of room . Regards, Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hi Chris, That's brilliant, thank you! Cheers, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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