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Something strange happened as well. I bought from Book Law one of each of the three volumes of "Dawn of the diesels" by John Spencer Gilks. When I got home I found that Volume 1 was missing! Clearly without it I have less of a bargain and, I suspect, precious little chance of replacing it. How it got out of the carrier bag in which the assistant placed it is anybody's guess but if it turns up in lost property I'd love to discuss how to get it back! Driving 160 miles each way is out of the question though.

 

Chris

 

Have you tried contacting the vendor? It may be that it slipped out at the stall and the vendor may have found it. I know from experience that remembering which trader you bought what from at a show can be a challenge (especially when paying cash, there is no receipt and it's in a plain white plastic bag) but it may be worth a try.

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Just back from an Easter road trip all the way there and back. At the show on Saturday and NRM on Sunday.

 

I have to say I found it a very good show with a large variety of layouts many of which have never been seen on the southern circuits.

 

Trade was good (but a bit "northern" in orientation - still, to be expected)

 

The place was heaving on Saturday and on reflection should have made the visit on the Sunday.

 

Anyway a thanks to all those who contributed to the entertainment

... I'm off to rub some ointment into my bruises ... the bleed'n backpack crowd

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Great show, in my opinion the discounts & prices on new items were superb and the traders in general were offering good prices. But there were simply not enough 'cheap'/second hand stalls for someone looking for a bargin. And like layouts, there was nothing in any gauge from the last few years. Slight disapointment but not a surprise.

 

Great day out! :)

 

-ECML

 

 

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HO European perhaps not but as one of the organisng team I have to stongly rebut the comment that there are no US layouts this year. Been too busy so far with Show and SLS duties to have more than a quick whiz round but I can state, as I have seen them, we have at least three US outline models this year. The three are Buffalo River Railroad (7mm), Paradise Mining Co (1:25) and California Coast (Z). Given we also have the T Gauge Japanese demonstation layout being shown by the T gauge trader and the DB layout mentioned above it certainly can't be said we are being solely pro-British / Eire outline this year.

 

I spent a lot of time studying Buffalo River Railroad (7mm) and Paradise Mining Co (1:25) - they were very good.

 

Having just re-read my post, I see that there were too many "1"s in there; it should have read "unable to muster at least 1 HO Continental and US layout".

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I thought the show was good overall, would have liked to have seen more modern british stuff. I Don't recall seeing a single layout with any DMU's on it and I only saw one 00 gauge layout with sound, something which I would have been interested in seeing more of. My favorite layout was the 'purple one' don't know the name of it but it was the one downstairs on which the trains were pretty much exclusively hauled by class 37's. Some great detail on it and proved that card models can be used on serious layouts.

 

The range of shops was fine for me, I bought stuff i didn't even know i needed! the only issue seemed to be a lot of the stalls running out of stock, quite poor considering it was only half way through the second day of a 3 day show

 

Some of the car park was a bit boggy, glad I didn't have to stop in those parts. It was closer to the entrance than usual though

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I thought the show was good overall, would have liked to have seen more modern british stuff. I Don't recall seeing a single layout with any DMU's on it and I only saw one 00 gauge layout with sound, something which I would have been interested in seeing more of. My favorite layout was the 'purple one' don't know the name of it but it was the one downstairs on which the trains were pretty much exclusively hauled by class 37's. Some great detail on it and proved that card models can be used on serious layouts.

 

The range of shops was fine for me, I bought stuff i didn't even know i needed! the only issue seemed to be a lot of the stalls running out of stock, quite poor considering it was only half way through the second day of a 3 day show

 

Some of the car park was a bit boggy, glad I didn't have to stop in those parts. It was closer to the entrance than usual though

 

Calne had a DMU! Swindon 120, looked like an MTK kit, or rather didn't look anything like the MTK kit, much more like a 120 but I suspect that was where it started. Ullapool might also have had a Met-Cam.

 

Seriously though, the show was well up to it's usual standard as far as layouts were concerned, it was just the trade which disappointed me a little. I appreciate the idea that serious finescalers are dealt with by the specialist society expos but there was a big gap between the highly specialised traders (of which there were a few) and the RTR boys and that middle ground was what was missing. I'd hardly call a Peco buffer stop and Knightwing castings specialist materials but it proved impossible to buy either this year.

 

A couple of traders like Rural Railways stocking the staple items of scenics, trackwork and the like would do wonders as would a SH book trader (personal bias!).

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I thought the show was good overall, would have liked to have seen more modern british stuff. I Don't recall seeing a single layout with any DMU's on it and I only saw one 00 gauge layout with sound, something which I would have been interested in seeing more of. My favorite layout was the 'purple one' don't know the name of it but it was the one downstairs on which the trains were pretty much exclusively hauled by class 37's. Some great detail on it and proved that card models can be used on serious layouts.

 

The range of shops was fine for me, I bought stuff i didn't even know i needed! the only issue seemed to be a lot of the stalls running out of stock, quite poor considering it was only half way through the second day of a 3 day show

 

Some of the car park was a bit boggy, glad I didn't have to stop in those parts. It was closer to the entrance than usual though

 

 

I saw a couple of first generation units on Driffield but nothing modern enough for my tastes either. :(

But the news of the Bachmann 350 cheered me up-but not enough to enjoy the cornish pasties. I found the food to be quite poor, but that's out of the hands of the exhibiton organisers I guess...burger van next time? ;)

 

-ECML

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... I Don't recall seeing a single layout with any DMU's on it

 

Calne had a DMU!

 

As to my certain knowledge did Driffield (mentioned by the poster above), Rowntrees Halt, Peffermill Road and New Hey (which had several, including a 7-car 101/108 lashup). I'd also be very surprised if there were none on Farkham

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There were bargains to be had for those with a keen eye. On one of the trade stands there was a massive assortment of unboxed Bachmann. My eagle eye spotted for a fiver a limited edition Leith general warehousing wagon originally commisioned by Harburn Hobbies. Not a bad find. I only regret that I didn't realise that the DCL one next to it was also a limited edition. Still, not what I was expecting to find.

 

There were plenty of locomotives in 00 for sale around, but much less choice of rolling stock in my opinion. Next year I might suggest to my father that we arrive for the afternoon instead of the morning to see if we beat the crush*. Parking for us was fine - we found a space on tarmac and never saw a trace of mud where we were. My father's only gripe was that the restaurant had stopped serving bacon butties by the time he got there the second time. Hardly a real gripe, but he gets all tetchy when his bacon supply is restrained.

 

*though I realise that that might mean that earlier birds get the bargains first.

 

Oh, and I'm sure I saw a DMU on at least one layout.

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Just returned after 5 days at the show-two setting up and three stewarding with Mrs Wales, tiring but very rewarding and here's to all the other helpers which made the show another success. Special mention must go to Peter Ledley and Malcolm Scrimshaw for a smooth running event in the absence of Mike Cook.

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I Don't recall seeing a single layout with any DMU's on it

Claydon - in fact, I don't think it had anything else on it :)

... and I'm certain I saw a 108 somewhere, possibly the excellent Peffermill Road

 

[Ed] now, after reading all the other posts while I was typing that one, I'm expecting someone to say they didn't see any blue diesels.

 

As I said before I think all the scales and gauges had some representation from T all the way to 1.

 

If anyone thinks that selection of trade wasn't good then they need to attend more shows - again it covered just about everything and much more than the average show down south.

 

That was my first York show - sadly also likely to be my last. No reflection on the show - it is just that one weekend away a year is as much as I can persuade the powers to be to approve. I still think it was well worth the struggle through the traffic and more enjoyable than many shows I could mention but will not.

 

I didn't sample the parking, as I walked across the race track - that was also a little bit muddy.... did someone say there was a bus?

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This was the first year that I have helped out at the York show and a very enjoyable weekend it was too :)

 

Having all three days to appreciate the layouts makes up for the hard work involved. Here are some of the pictures I took.

 

Driffield

 

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Farkham

 

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Little Severn Wharf

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Moorton Bottom Yard

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This is one of my favourite layouts on the circuit at the moment. Always a joy to study the senic work.

 

 

New Hey

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Proof that at least one DMU could be seen operating today :rolleyes:

 

Peffermill Road

 

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Lovely stuff. Fair makes me homesick.

 

'Kirkie no more, Garngaber no more, Cadder no more, Lenzie no more...'

 

 

Rowntree Halt

 

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Having been witness to the midnight oil that has been burnt to get this layout to the show, it was really great to see it running so well.

 

 

Y Cae

 

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Smashing little layout with some seriously lovely stock!

 

 

Hope you enjoyed the show as much as I did. It was great to catch up with s many old friends and make some new ones.

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No DMU's? It always amazes me how many go to shows with eyes firmly closed, we were running 4 sets - including that occasional 7 car Blackpool extra.

 

York show has always been one of my favourites to do as an exhibitor and this one was no exception, my thanks to the orgainisers who made us as welcome and looked after us, especially the constant supply of teas and coffee! Mal did a brilliant job in the absence of Mike Cook and should be well proud of a running a good show - my and the New Hey crew's best wishes to Mike for a speedy recovery.

 

 

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Another show completed and a big thank you from the Show team to all who attended whether as paying customers, exhibitors, traders, Racecourse staff or YMRS crew.

 

For those earlier on in this thread stating numbers appeared to be down that was not the case and the final numbers were good. It all starts again now for next year.

 

Once again thank you all for supporting the event.

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I'd just like to echo Andy's comments above regarding the hospitality at York - a good weekend indeed but that Terrazzo floor was b****y hard on the ankles! York has always been a very social show for exhibitors and in these straitened economic times, it is our bounden duty to ensure that small businesses (eg The Maltings, The Yorkshire Terrier...) receive the appropriate assistance from us. Incidentally, the 3-Legged Mare does have a piano!

 

Does no one go to shows to look at layouts? To judge by the comments about what's right or wrong with the trade and who bought what (and photos of trade stands!!) perhaps there's no need to have any layouts at all.

 

I thought the show was pretty good with something for most tastes (not every taste I'll grant you but what show ever does - or can?). It would be nice though if some layout operators remembered why they were there. Chaps, it's an exhibition and I've always thought the idea was to put on a bit of a show for the visitors. There don't need to be dozens of trains rushing round in circles but, however well modelled the layout, if nothing moves for ten minutes, something's amiss.

 

Phil

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Got to York for 10:30 Monday, with son and wife in tow. After application of tea to wife, she was able to face the show :D

 

High spots? Definitely the even-longer-than-it-was-at-St-Albans Long Line, which just looks splendid (and would be even nicer if/when they add some scenic width, which apparently they are considering) and Pudley Lane (thanks for a chance to peek round the back, guys!). Also Dyna Hyfryd (love the 45+ wagon coal trains), Penfold Priory and the gorgeous cornfield in Thurston. Cross that I missed Larpool and Easington (due to losing track of what we'd done), as it's run by a friend of my father's and built originally by another (which Dad failed to tell me beforehand!).

 

Special thanks to Jill and Maggie and their helpers for the kids' modelling area - James is very proud of his signal box, and my wife (who helped) is rediscovering long-forgotten skills for fine detail modelling work (she's a vet, steady hands come with the job).

 

Came away with very little bar ideas, but plenty of those :D Great show: thanks to the YMRS guys for organizing it.

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Well all I can say is: no brushes with or bruising from rucksack man as the place seemed much easier to negotiate; lovely layouts and some BEAUTIFUL stock/scenics; no problems with car parking (had to come by car as I was trading) but can walk a few hundred yards; food was fine & of reasonable cost and I think the Racecourse Cafe upstairs, which was light, airy and well presented, made many Exhibition catering areas look like Joe's Kaf (apologies Joe); great hospitality from the organising crew including XLNT cake in the BUBBLES restroom; loads of friendly and patient customers and many helpful colleague traders; quite easy get-in/get/out; overall a good experience.

My only moan - not enough self-discipline to resist buying too much stuff when I escaped the Stand!! :huh:

My very best wishes to Mr Cook. My congratulations to the organisers and helpers and the Racecourse management.

If invited by my senior colleague I will enjoy next year's show as well.

Sincerely, 36 E.

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I thought the show was pretty good with something for most tastes (not every taste I'll grant you but what show ever does - or can?). It would be nice though if some layout operators remembered why they were there. Chaps, it's an exhibition and I've always thought the idea was to put on a bit of a show for the visitors. There don't need to be dozens of trains rushing round in circles but, however well modelled the layout, if nothing moves for ten minutes, something's amiss.

 

Seconded. There were a few layouts that did seem to suffer a little from 'nice scenery, where are the trains'. Now I appreciate that if you're running a BLT, it's hardly going to be Clapham Junction, but if you're running a big mainline with the Fiddle Yard Of Doom round the back, it ought to be possible to get something to pass through the scenic area more than once every five minutes!

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I go every year but this was my first time exhibiting. The floor downstairs was hard (I was warned) but we had a prime site and easy access. I thought it seemed less crowded than usual, which may have been down to a more spacious arrangement. It was also less hot than usual, although I was on the ground floor almost all the time. Tea and catering arrangements were very good. I'd certainly go back like a shot.

 

I didn't get enough time to go round the rest of the show so I may have missed some goodies, but I was very impressed with New Hey and Rowntree Halt (good to chat with Darren again). Old favourites like Rowlands Castle and Pfeffermill Road also stand another viewing. Thanks to those people who said hello and also said nice things about the layout. I can't believe there haven't been more photos posted, though: it felt as if we were being snapped and filmed almost permanently. If you're shy, please send me them offline: we like seeing photos of our own layout. If anyone happened to catch the Great Thurston Train Disaster of Monday afternoon about 4:15, we'd be especially interested to hear from you.

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Recovered now so time to reflect... firstly a huge thank you to the exhibition team for making our weekend an enjoyable one, secondly to the 'Long Liners' for their understanding and efforts in operating 67ft apart without the 'bells' working- sorry guys but after 26 hours straight wiring it was just.. one job too many, which is why we arrived 6 hours late on Friday only adding to the pressure!

 

We had an interesting Luftwaffe view of New Hey over the weekend from the mezanine above. What little i saw of the show looked ok, with good trade and layouts as one expects at York. A shame Mike was not there to greet us but here's to hopes for his return in 2011.

 

Only down sides...The lights went out on the landy crossing Saddleworth Moor late last night which made for an interesting journey home, and i was a little dissapointed with the early doors closing at the Maltings on Sunday, just as i had got my second wind!

 

Only comments... As the 3rd floor catering gets so busy, would it be feasible to have a seperate lane for exhibitors .. to jump the sometimes V long que and then rejoin the melee at the service area?

 

Re- queries about the Long Line Project.. it will be getting longer and wider.. eventually to 106ft 8in x 3ft 3in. (C.2014).

 

High point for me.. 9.55am saturday... layout up and working... phew that was a close one!

 

cheers to all who attended,

 

Mark

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Recovered now so time to reflect... firstly a huge thank you to the exhibition team for making our weekend an enjoyable one, secondly to the 'Long Liners' for their understanding and efforts in operating 67ft apart without the 'bells' working- sorry guys but after 26 hours straight wiring it was just.. one job too many, which is why we arrived 6 hours late on Friday only adding to the pressure!

 

Stlll looks fantastic - even my son agrees (which proves that early indoctrination into the GWR is a good thing!).

 

Only down sides...The lights went out on the landy crossing Saddleworth Moor late last night which made for an interesting journey home, and i was a little dissapointed with the early doors closing at the Maltings on Sunday, just as i had got my second wind!

 

I am still at a loss to see how that all fits in the Lanny :D Pictures?

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Calne had a DMU! Swindon 120, looked like an MTK kit, or rather didn't look anything like the MTK kit, much more like a 120 but I suspect that was where it started.

 

It was an MTK kit, and generated a lot of questions and interest.

 

and as with all the stock is around 20 years old. only the standard 3mt which is a new Bachmann one with brass chassis is the newest arrival on Calne.

 

and for a 20 year old layout, it performed very well, was happy it ran so well and is a nice layout to operate, not stressfull as some others.

 

only problem was when both Chris and I left the layout together for lunch, the only time we were both away from the layout all weekend and left our young 11 year old club member tommy in charge on his own and he stood on the controller wire ripping them all out, so apologise if there was no running for 15 minutes or so on monday afternoon until we could get back and fix it, and clip him round the ear ;)

 

had a great weekend, the social side was great as usual, lots of nice pubs in york.

 

thanks to all the organisers,the buffet on sunday was really nice.

 

Mike

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I enjoyed the show today. Among the excellent layouts I was quite captivated by Dingle and very pleased to see Calne, about which I had been reading in a very old BRM only a few days ago.

 

Something strange happened as well. I bought from Book Law one of each of the three volumes of "Dawn of the diesels" by John Spencer Gilks. When I got home I found that Volume 1 was missing! Clearly without it I have less of a bargain and, I suspect, precious little chance of replacing it. How it got out of the carrier bag in which the assistant placed it is anybody's guess but if it turns up in lost property I'd love to discuss how to get it back! Driving 160 miles each way is out of the question though.

 

Chris

 

I've spoken to David Allen, of Book Law Publications, this morning (we usually go for a pint on Mondays, but obviously needed to re-arrange this week) and brought your posting to his attention.

 

The Exhibition Management Team had already approached him to enquire if your book had been left on the stand. At the end of the show, their stock, was absulutely spot-on but, as a gesture of goodwill, a complimentary copy of the missing volume has been left for you with the York Show Management Team.

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The Exhibition Management Team had already approached him to enquire if your book ha been left on the stan. At the end of the show, their stock, was absulutely spot-on but, as a gesture of goodwill, a complimentary copy of the missing volume has been left for you with the York Show Management Team.

 

 

Now where did I leave my "O" Gauge A4, great jesture and an excellent show

 

Dave

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