060 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 It pays to look at the prototype. The diagonal brace on wooden doors and gates etc should always go from the top outer corner back to the hinge post. I see so many excellent models spoilt by people modelling the door with the diagonal going the opposite way. Incidently many DIY enthusiasts also make the same mistake, but if you look at any engine shed or garage doors etc, the diagonal will always go from top outer corner back to hinge post, never the other way round. A minor detail I know, but one I find personally irritating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I've been going on about this for years ever since I produced a stable block with 'upside down' doors back in the 70's - even Pendon often got the braceing wrong - go to their site and you'll see what I mean - and in the movies I don't think I've ever seen a bunkhouse door hung up the right way yet ! Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2016 But as so many people get it wrong in full size,a modern layout could be either. ( shamingly admitting to the gates in my last house!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2016 I had a side gate made by a recommended 'handyman' that was like that. It eventually sagged and one of the braces fell off. I had to take the other off and put them on properly. His shelves were good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 My internal doors haven't got any diagonal bracing, just horizontal, and I reckon they must be 100-150 years old. They spent some of their life dumped in a shed before I rescued and refitted them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2016 Internal doors often have no bracing. But then they are much narrower than many external doors/gates and not subjected to wind etc. I only found out a couple of years back that farm gates traditionally varied a great deal across the country with just about every county having its own design. So on layouts that are set pre-WW2 that should probably be taken into account as well. And we think rivet-counters are odd............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It all depends on the competency of the joiner that fits the door, as the replacement for the Coal Shipping Foreman's office on West Blyth Staiths was fitted upside down in 1983! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2016 My internal doors haven't got any diagonal bracing, just horizontal, and I reckon they must be 100-150 years old. They spent some of their life dumped in a shed before I rescued and refitted them too. Yes, but they will be made of rather better timber than you can obtain nowadays! J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 While walking along the Strawberry line route I came across this gate, I think it was an accomodation crossing, its partner was of the same style, Gate between Cheddar and Axbridge, is this belt and braces? 15/3/2016 cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigo Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I bookmarked this site sometime ago, http://www.secrets-of-shed-building.com/building_a_shed_door.html Also useful information about sheds in general. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanR Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Joseph; gates would also veried from gatemaker to gatemaker. I used to make 5 bar gates and ours were slightly different to our competitors. We used to have a stand at the local county show; walking around this there would be 12 + local manufactures and we all had slightly different styles. Sadly I could tell which firm made a gate from some distance away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 A few years ago some right know it all in our village invited me and the missus around to see his double gates he'd made - and hung upside down, naturally. On pointing this out and giving his gates a week before they needed straightening up he remarked " Rubbish. Only happens when you use cheap wood so it makes no difference how it's hung " So, a week later round we go, gates dragging on the ground, won't open. "Yeah, well " he excused "Shan't be using them anyway - they're just for show " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Yes, but they will be made of rather better timber than you can obtain nowadays! J. They still had to paint a wood effect finish on it, as the wood obviously didn't come up to contemporary standards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
divibandit Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 A few years ago some right know it all in our village invited me and the missus around to see his double gates he'd made - and hung upside down, naturally. On pointing this out and giving his gates a week before they needed straightening up he remarked " Rubbish. Only happens when you use cheap wood so it makes no difference how it's hung " So, a week later round we go, gates dragging on the ground, won't open. "Yeah, well " he excused "Shan't be using them anyway - they're just for show " What an idiot! He's already shot himself in the foot if he made them himself...out of cheap wood! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I assume that it stems from most traditional woodworking joints being good in compression and less good in tension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted March 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 I just looked at the doors on my Airfix engine shed and the bracing there is wrong way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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