jazz Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 A bit of a slow day on the WB today. Spent a couple of hours watching one of my railway CD's. The deflectors were a perfect fit without any filing etc. Not always like that though. 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Its great to see you back in action. I will no doubt pester you with messages again whenever I get stuck! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Shez said: Its great to see you back in action. I will no doubt pester you with messages again whenever I get stuck! Looking forward to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Well that's as far as I can go until it's all primed. I will lay it to one side for now as setting up the spray booth etc in the garage is a bit too much for me right now. I have another loco I want to build for myself that will keep me happy. 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted February 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hi Ken, glad to see you are on the mend. The loco is up to your usual very high standard. Cheers, Ade. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) I've been taking a short break from the Patriot build to make a start on my Laurie Griffin Armstrong goods. The castings are as expected, very nice, all last wax except the axle boxes/springs. The etches are not very good at all. There is also some castings not supplied, ie the lifting rings for example. There is quite a bit of scratch building required for etches not supplied as well. On top of that some of the etches are a very poor fit requiring a bit of scratch building to make them correct. (at least I hope they are correct as working from photos in my books is necessary as there are no diagrams in the instructions for any guidance. So it's definitely not a kit for a beginner. Anyway the tender is done, ready for the paint shop. I am also doing an experiment in employing the American system of current pick up. i.e. No wiper/plunger pickups, Shorting out one side of the tender wheels and the opposite side on the loco with suitable insulation on the chassis etc. More of that when the loco is built. This is the very loco I'm modelling number 1195 in her dying days. Edited February 14, 2020 by jazz 10 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 I've been slow on the Laurie Griffin Armstrong build. Mainly due to the shoulder problem and the fact the kit is a bit of a disaster to build. It's an old Shed Master effort and I suspect it's allow up of a 4mm kit. (Never a very good thing to do). The two big thing was the etched boiler was 7mm too short. The splasher tops 2mm too narrow and a few other problems to rectify. Shedmaster is a brand I've never build before and I will not be rushing to do another, if ever. I have to say Laurie does very nice castings for it though. Here is the body so far. I will explain how I'm doing the American pick ups in the next post. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Back again, Now for the pickup system I'm using. No doubt many other on here have used it and done a better job of it than me. (This is my first attempt at it.) The method of attaching the chassis to the body is left up to the builder. Plain turned spacers and preformed ones are provided. So I used the turned ones and drilled them 3/16'' to accept the plastic tube which will accept the 6BA bolts. The running plates were then drilled 3/16'' an axle bush soldered in protruding below by about 0.5mm. Both chassis then had very thin plastikard glued on the insulate from the bodies. 6Ba bolts were then solder to the bushes on the running plates. The plastic tube then was able to just protrude into the axle bush on the running plates. Showing the tube ready to protrude into the bush on the running plates. The 6BA bolt ready to accept the fibre washer and nut. Ending up like this. Note the shorting out of the wheels on side only making sure you have opposing sides of course. All that is required now is to make and insulated couple between loco and tender and thin plastic under the drop plate. (Which is not included in the kit.). No big deal, just another bit of scratch building. (Next week will see the Jubilee finished all being well) Edited February 19, 2020 by jazz 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Very nice Ken. The old Shedmaster kits were blown up Jidenco kits. Laurie who now has them is slowly making them better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, N15class said: Very nice Ken. The old Shedmaster kits were blown up Jidenco kits. Laurie who now has them is slowly making them better. Trust me to get one he hasn't upgraded. I had forgotten they were originally Jidenco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 A bit of progress on the loco body. Now the problems with the etches have been solved it's down to the details. I'm hoping for a break in the weather next week and bill be able to start the priming of the LG model and also get the Patriot primed and finished off. The body so far. 13 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Glad to see you back to it Ken! Best Regards Tony 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted February 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2020 Lovely work Ken. I have really enjoyed catching up with your thread this morning: excellent modelling as always. Best wishes, Nick. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 16:16, jazz said: Back again, Now for the pickup system I'm using. No doubt many other on here have used it and done a better job of it than me. (This is my first attempt at it.) The method of attaching the chassis to the body is left up to the builder. Plain turned spacers and preformed ones are provided. So I used the turned ones and drilled them 3/16'' to accept the plastic tube which will accept the 6BA bolts. The running plates were then drilled 3/16'' an axle bush soldered in protruding below by about 0.5mm. Both chassis then had very thin plastikard glued on the insulate from the bodies. 6Ba bolts were then solder to the bushes on the running plates. The plastic tube then was able to just protrude into the axle bush on the running plates. Showing the tube ready to protrude into the bush on the running plates. The 6BA bolt ready to accept the fibre washer and nut. Ending up like this. Note the shorting out of the wheels on side only making sure you have opposing sides of course. All that is required now is to make and insulated couple between loco and tender and thin plastic under the drop plate. (Which is not included in the kit.). No big deal, just another bit of scratch building. (Next week will see the Jubilee finished all being well) I used to make the insulated bushes from empty ink cartridges. Remember when fountain pens were mandatory in high schools? I used to isolate just the tender chassis but if I ever get round to DCc conversion I would look at isolating the loco too. If the tender chassis is isolated the drawbar can be mounted directly to the body without the need for isolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Yes, I do remember the fountain pen of old. A good choice too. I guess I could have just done the tender, that would have saved a bit of work, I was just thinking along the lines, (excuse pun), the more pickups the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, jazz said: Yes, I do remember the fountain pen of old. A good choice too. I guess I could have just done the tender, that would have saved a bit of work, I was just thinking along the lines, (excuse pun), the more pickups the better. My take on the American System was that it was pick up free. One side from the loco, the other from the tender using Walsall or JPL wheels. Modern stay alive systems should take it to another level. I even got it to work on a G5 but that's another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, doilum said: My take on the American System was that it was pick up free. One side from the loco, the other from the tender using Walsall or JPL wheels. Modern stay alive systems should take it to another level. I even got it to work on a G5 but that's another story. Oh aye, This loco has no pickups of course, I meant all twelve wheels are picking up the current. I realise by just doing the tender would mean three wheels picking up on the + and nine wheels on -- side. I have the tender + on the right and the loco -- on the left side. This has been an experiment to see if there is any benefit in the American system over regular picks on my layout. Edited February 23, 2020 by jazz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Looking good Ken - I had a nightmare with the Shedmaster Coal Tank. Never again! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, dibateg said: Looking good Ken - I had a nightmare with the Shedmaster Coal Tank. Never again! Tony Thanks Tony. I would not have bothered with this kit if I had know it's origins. Thankfully I'm close to getting it running at last. Edited February 24, 2020 by jazz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Hi Ken, Sorry to read that you have been out of action but hopefully recovering now. I do like your method for insulating the tender chassis, I shall store that away for future reference. For my sins I have a couple of the Shedmaster/LG kits in my stash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Rob Pulham said: Hi Ken, Sorry to read that you have been out of action but hopefully recovering now. I do like your method for insulating the tender chassis, I shall store that away for future reference. For my sins I have a couple of the Shedmaster/LG kits in my stash. Thanks Rob. Getting better slowly. Good luck with those Shed Masters. I will be very interested in seeing how you get on with them. Regards, Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Had her running on the rolling road today. I have to completer the painting, hopefully the weather will be kind enough for her GWR livery as running at the end of her life in the 1930's. Typically, the Railmatch paint will take at a couple of days to harden off enough to allow work to continue. Whilst that is happening I will revert to getting the Patriot ready for the off. I have not been impressed at all will this kit, castings excepted. I hope Laurie will soon sort out the failings in the etches as they spoil would could be very nice kits. Edited February 24, 2020 by jazz 6 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, jazz said: Thanks Rob. Getting better slowly. Good luck with those Shed Masters. I will be very interested in seeing how you get on with them. Regards, Ken When I get to them I will be sure to share them on here, Of the two I think that it will be the J24 which get's built first (the other is for an F4/5 tank). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 Almost finished now. Still a bit of painting to Finnish of. Then varnish, glazing, crew, coal, Dinghams and finally a bit of weathering. That will now wait as I will be doing the Patriot finishing first. BTW is any one else getting annoying ads down the side of the RM forum pages? 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Ken yes, sometimes, but not all the time, and maybe not only RMWeb atb Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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