lightengine Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Noch 15959 [/quote I've racked my brains to include a cameo with those naughty ladies, but nothing came to mind that was explainable should my daughters point it out.... a Kylie Minogue concert! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Slag travelling in open wagons - i.e. not the powdered product - is possibly going for use as roadstone. There was a slag-to-tarmacadam plant at Frodingham in the 1930s, and it's probably still in operation, although nowadays the stone would probably be shipped without the bitumen. Therefore, any material that represents fine-screen stone would do it. One would have to find out the colour when it is not covered in tar. That was/is Eccles Slag of Scunthorpe. On the main roads in Lincolnshire in the 1960s we used to see lorries of it many times a day passing by en-route to various road dressing sites in Eastern England . The lorries had "Slag Makes Good Roads" in large letter along the length of the tipplers. I have tried to find a photo of a loaded lorry or train, but they didn't appear to be the subject of photographers. I would imagine that mixed grades of grey ballast ( i.e. maybe mix a 2mm and 4mm ballast pack together) would be a close approximation. Edited, to add that I found this on Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/142932505@N07/26879829711/in/photolist-GXh9TR-ccbunU-2fe8zx-gTaYkh-6iVgdw-aeuugD-gTb2B7-cebALf-4DhJ4N-cRyXwL-bUPgtP-bWPdJe-gZNYHu-gTaZgW-9kFMj2-cxZcpW-9e6xRz-dRwJ8W-adPfQu-owGyRt-6bo2ZM-oF5SrY-oF1BGc-bRXHHe-px9E2f-dMdQ9u-at2g5M-8FgzxU-aYHFAD-dPW6Mu-6iVgdN-8VhTa6-9bYEAH-fkpnnP-ehLgDY-gTaZ3j-fbeL6V-akMa2G-nAfiqn-5YrSue-7v5dxu-dMDqwr-dL7MYb-84Sf3F-6iVgdC-q42sgM-6wodnQ-fGxQJW-gTaTe3-J7BjA It looks about right. Edited July 26, 2016 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Cupola furnace slag tends to be high in limestone because Cupolas remelt pig iron which contains relatively little in the way of impurities, unlike the ore smelted in blast furnaces which can be more than 50% impurity. Consequently the slag contains all sorts of stuff. I've posted this before, part of Clustons slag operations at Appleby Frodingham. The loading of crushed and graded slag for railway ballast. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm surprised how high those wagons are loaded - looks like a spillage waiting to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm surprised how high those wagons are loaded - looks like a spillage waiting to happen The 'Dogfish' used for slag ballast traffic were fitted with 'greedy boards' so they could load to their permitted weight. see here:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brdogfish/h2f8bebdb#h2f8bebdb Several works in South Wales actually 'cast' their slag in moulds to make rectangular blocks; the lineside wall around the West Curve at Landore, as far as Cockett Tunnel is partially made of these. Even bigger blocks were used as rock armour protecting the sea wall between Llanelli and Burry Port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) That was/is Eccles Slag of Scunthorpe. On the main roads in Lincolnshire in the 1960s we used to see lorries of it many times a day passing by en-route to various road dressing sites in Eastern England . The lorries had "Slag Makes Good Roads" in large letter along the length of the tipplers. I have tried to find a photo of a loaded lorry or train, but they didn't appear to be the subject of photographers. I would imagine that mixed grades of grey ballast ( i.e. maybe mix a 2mm and 4mm ballast pack together) would be a close approximation. Edited, to add that I found this on Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/142932505@N07/26879829711/in/photolist-GXh9TR-ccbunU-2fe8zx-gTaYkh-6iVgdw-aeuugD-gTb2B7-cebALf-4DhJ4N-cRyXwL-bUPgtP-bWPdJe-gZNYHu-gTaZgW-9kFMj2-cxZcpW-9e6xRz-dRwJ8W-adPfQu-owGyRt-6bo2ZM-oF5SrY-oF1BGc-bRXHHe-px9E2f-dMdQ9u-at2g5M-8FgzxU-aYHFAD-dPW6Mu-6iVgdN-8VhTa6-9bYEAH-fkpnnP-ehLgDY-gTaZ3j-fbeL6V-akMa2G-nAfiqn-5YrSue-7v5dxu-dMDqwr-dL7MYb-84Sf3F-6iVgdC-q42sgM-6wodnQ-fGxQJW-gTaTe3-J7BjA It looks about right. Thank you I will buy 2mm and 4mm grey ballast BUT which light or dark please thank you and fine or medium or coarse ballast by which one please Edited July 27, 2016 by class37418stag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hello everyone Which ballast of fine or medium or coarse and which light or dark grey for carry ingot mould wagon ? And Brown iron ore for carry ingot mould or BSC or tippler ore wagon ? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hello everyone Which ballast of fine or medium or coarse and which light or dark grey for carry ingot mould wagon ? And Brown iron ore for carry ingot mould or BSC or tippler ore wagon ? Thank you The ballast used on the ones that worked from BSC Landore was local Carboniferous Limestone, which used to be the omnipresent ballast in South Wales; a fairly light colour, with a blueish tinge. As for iron ore- it comes in a variety of colours, depending on the iron content and where it was mined. This Google view of the imported ore stockpile at Tata's Port Talbot works will show what I mean:- https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Abbey+Works,+Port+Talbot+SA13+2PH/@51.5782854,-3.791123,583m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x486e66780e2b2e2b:0xcaa61108f97c51c9!8m2!3d51.5402337!4d-3.7431075?hl=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hello everyone Longer time by no response to answer so if I buy 2mm and 4mm dark grey ballast will carry from Hornby ingot mould wagon Please give me a answer Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Slag is LIGHT grey, almost white, once it's been processed for road making and ballast. The process is called foam slagging, and leads to the production of a fairly brittle whitish stone with lots of holes in it, like hard sponge. There is still a foam slag plant here in town. It used to be transported in tipper trucks too on the roads, the side panels bore the words: SLAG MAKES GOOD ROADS. Un-processed slag is darker grey, with brownish tinges. HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2018 Depends what it is going to be used for. Slag for adding to cement during manufacturing would be finely ground and conveyed in Vee-tanks of the sort used for finished cement. Slag that had been crushed for fill, such as the 2 million or so tons brother-in-law bought for a project in Cardiff, could be represented by fine sand. Bloody 'ell! How big is your brother-in-law's layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Bloody 'ell! How big is your brother-in-law's layout! It was some sort of pumping station or similar, towards the eastern edge of the Cardiff Bay area. Amazingly, even after moving that much, there's still a lot on site at Llanwern, though that'll probably end up on the new bit of motorway bypassing Maesglas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Tarmac (formerly Tilcon) at Hunslett East received granulated slag from Teesside and probably still does from Scunthorpe to produce motorway grade tarmac! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Hello everyone Longer time by no response to answer so if I buy 2mm and 4mm dark grey ballast will carry from Hornby ingot mould wagon Please give me a answer Thank you I don't think it matters about the size. After all, it is your layout. Are you really that worried about someone coming along and saying "your slag is not the correct size?". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It was some sort of pumping station or similar, towards the eastern edge of the Cardiff Bay area. Amazingly, even after moving that much, there's still a lot on site at Llanwern, though that'll probably end up on the new bit of motorway bypassing Maesglas. It was the east Cardiff sewage works on land which was partially reclaimed from the sea. It's just to the east of the Celsa steelworks but on the other side of the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You know, I'm going to stop helping this guy. I know English isn't his first language, but he comes on with quite abrupt requests, gets annoyed when we don't understand his English and NEVER thanks anyone, nor comes on and says, yes, that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Cut Andrew some slack. You don’t know him, nor why he phrases his posts the way he does, It is not intentional rudeness. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Pictures of a piece of blast furnace slag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Cut Andrew some slack. You don’t know him, nor why he phrases his posts the way he does, It is not intentional rudeness. . Well if yoiu do, perhaps you could enlighten us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Well if yoiu do, perhaps you could enlighten us? There are some things you just have to accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Fair enough Andy. Enough in my world to worry me without adding to it. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Pictures of a piece of blast furnace slag. Slag P1140195.JPGSlag P1140196.JPGSlag P1140197.JPGSlag P1140198.JPG Blast furnace slag is different to steel slag. Different product with a different look and texture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Ballast from Slag. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/82160-Hornby-k1/page-16&do=findComment&comment=1710152 P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Yep, like a stone sponge. The fresh stuff is quite pale, but, being porous, it absorbs muck. The process here is known as "foam slagging" to produce that stuff. Previous to that, it was just tipped onto slag banks by short trains of what were termed slag ladles. The periodic orange glow in the skies above our town, when this was done, led to the motto beneath our coat of arms, "Refulget labores nostros coelum" (The heavens reflect our labours). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Blast furnace slag is different to steel slag. Different product with a different look and texture. Slag from Cyfarthfa steelworks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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