East Coast Mainline Blockade for Werrington Junction diveunder

[class26]

Interesting to see in the above video that new speed limits on the approach to the Cross are in place, can be seen at 20.32 and seem to be in use. Compare at 11.30 , 18.15, 19.30 or 21.50 to the usual very cautious approach or departure. Wonder how much time this will save ?

[Mike Storey]

5 hours ago, class26 said:

Interesting to see in the above video that new speed limits on the approach to the Cross are in place, can be seen at 20.32 and seem to be in use. Compare at 11.30 , 18.15, 19.30 or 21.50 to the usual very cautious approach or departure. Wonder how much time this will save ?

 

The departure speeds will at last exploit the acceleration ability of the Azumas and the EMU's (compared to the HST's and even the 91's), so it should save about 30/45 seconds between the tunnels and Finsbury Park. Add that up across an hour, plus the extra tunnel tracks, and you have an extra path (or maybe two?) right there.

 

For arrivals, I am not sure what it would save, but with later braking and less congestion, ditto.

[melmerby]

Why did they remove one of the platforms?

I know a lot of the outer suburban services now use St. P. Thameslink but surely KX could still use all it had?

[Donington Road]

The new road surface has been finished on Lincoln Road.  The contractors were just doing a bit of landscaping with top soil to the verges.

 

 

 

Don't know what is happening to the bit on the right.  It seems to be missing kerb stones for some reason.

 

 

Some new fencing.    ......... and a photographers plinth?

 

 

 

Fence posts in place on the south side.

BT still have to remove their wiring from the temporary footbridge.

I am told that they can thread their wires through the new bridge without having to dig up the new road surface!

Once BT have done their work the temporary footbridge is due for removal in mid May.

 

 

The brickwork blending the old and new bridges has been completed and the scaffolding has been removed.

 

 

Part of the land bridge across the cutting at Hurn Road is being gradually excavated out.

 

 

Edited April 29, 2021 by Donington Road

[Donington Road]

Drone footage mostly around Foxcovert Road footbridge with some views of Walton footbridge area at 7:32 minutes in.

 

 

[rodent279]

The big question-will this topic reach 100 pages before the job is finished?

[Donington Road]

2 minutes ago, rodent279 said:

The big question-will this topic reach 100 pages before the job is finished?

 

Easily, just another 92 posts to go!

[melmerby]

Did anybody watching the cyclist ascending the ramp expect to see them going headfirst down the steps?

 

Must have been watching too many pratfall videos.

[Crun]

Multi-million pound GB Railfreight training centre is an on-time arrival in Peterborough

 

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/multi-million-pound-gb-railfreight-training-centre-is-an-on-time-arrival-in-peterborough-3220441

Edited April 30, 2021 by Crun

[Donington Road]

6 hours ago, melmerby said:

Did anybody watching the cyclist ascending the ramp expect to see them going headfirst down the steps?

 

Must have been watching too many pratfall videos.

 

In my opinion Cock Lane is particularly bad in that respect on the west side.  Ascending the east side on a bicycle you go up five ramps continually turning left at the end of each ramp and keeping to the left across the span, only to find you have to turn right at the other side to go down the ramp.  It is all to easy to subconsciously turn left at that point and find yourself confronted by a steep flight of stairs.  I think there should be a warning sign where the gentleman is standing pointing out the direction of stairs and ramp.  The chap on the bicycle has his front wheel on the top of the first step down.

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by Donington Road

[Donington Road]

The signal for the new Up Stamford lying prone next to Werrington Brook.

 

[Trackside ECML]

20 hours ago, Donington Road said:

 

In my opinion Cock Lane is particularly bad in that respect on the west side.  Ascending the east side on a bicycle you go up five ramps continually turning left at the end of each ramp and keeping to the left across the span, only to find you have to turn right at the other side to go down the ramp.  It is all to easy to subconsciously turn left at that point and find yourself confronted by a steep flight of stairs.  I think there should be a warning sign where the gentleman is standing pointing out the direction of stairs and ramp.  The chap on the bicycle has his front wheel on the top of the first step down.

 

Oh no its those two lol lol

 

 

[cctransuk]

21 hours ago, Donington Road said:

 

In my opinion Cock Lane is particularly bad in that respect on the west side.  Ascending the east side on a bicycle you go up five ramps continually turning left at the end of each ramp and keeping to the left across the span, only to find you have to turn right at the other side to go down the ramp.  It is all to easy to subconsciously turn left at that point and find yourself confronted by a steep flight of stairs.  I think there should be a warning sign where the gentleman is standing pointing out the direction of stairs and ramp.  The chap on the bicycle has his front wheel on the top of the first step down.

 

 

All that is needed is a small, two-part sign - < (walking man symbol) , (wheelchair & cycle symbols) >.

 

John Isherwood.

[Crun]

Saturday 1st May. Views south from Hurn Lane bridge:

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Crun

[Crun]

Views of Lincoln Road bridge:

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Crun

[JeffP]

Looking at the amount of work carried out on Lincoln Road bridge, is there a reason why they left it single track?

[melmerby]

2 hours ago, JeffP said:

Looking at the amount of work carried out on Lincoln Road bridge, is there a reason why they left it single track?

Because it's just a footpath/bridle way?

[Crun]

54 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Because it's just a footpath/bridle way?

Cycle path too...

[Donington Road]

3 hours ago, JeffP said:

Looking at the amount of work carried out on Lincoln Road bridge, is there a reason why they left it single track?

 

1 hour ago, melmerby said:

Because it's just a footpath/bridle way?

 

15 minutes ago, Crun said:

Cycle path too...

 

In reply to Jeff, basically it doesn't go anywhere.
A little history:
The original bridge built by The Great Northern Railway around 1848 carried what was to be the main A15 trunk road from New Holland (on the south bank of the River Humber) through Brigg to Lincoln (Ermine Street [Roman Road]) onwards through Sleaford, Bourne, Werrington and Peterborough to its junction with the A1 at Norman Cross.
The route over Lincoln Road bridge remained like this until the mid 1970's when the expansion of Werrington and Peterborough began.  Hurn Road and Davids Lane made junctions either side of the bridge.

As the expansion began a new A15 road, Werrington Parkway (single carraigeway only) was built between the old A15 and the railway.  Davids Lane was severed and re-routed to join the old Lincoln Road through Werrington and to a new roundabout.  At this time the road from the bridge was slewed westwards to join the new roundabout.  The short section of the old road from the bridge to the 'new' Davids Lane became what is now Davids Close.

The dualling of Werrington Parkway took place in the late 1990's and the bridges built carrying the new A15 over the Joint Line and Hurn Road to Glinton.  The Hurn Road junction was severed at the old bridge and the road was curved to the north to join the old Lincoln Road.  The old junction of Hurn Road became a footpath.  The old Lincoln Road was then severed at the roundabout.  Since then nature has taken over and traces of the road have virtually disappeared.  A short footpath was installed from the bridge to Davids Close for the use of pedestians and cyclists.

The original bridge was an arched structure until the top half was rebuilt around 2014 as part of the Joint Line upgrade from Werrington Junction to Doncaster.  At the time the width of the road was reduced.  Now that the bridge carries the main water supply over it which was originally seperate, the width of the road has been reduced even further.  It serves no other purpose than to allow utility vehicles into the area for maintenance of services.
Over engineered?  without a doubt, but I guess it is the City Council milking the most out of it for the Council Tax payer.

The footpath goes down to the right where the drop kerb and blue sign is.  The temporary bailey bridge beyond the red and white fencing is due to be removed the middle of this month.

 

Looking south from the old bridge, the trees have been cut back on the old road when they accessed the water main.  If needed this area could be accessed from Davis Close by removing the fence further down in the centre of the photo.

[corneliuslundie]

Though presumably if it is a bridle path it is a right of way for foot traffic (however many legs). I am never sure of the status of cycles on bridleways.

Mind you some of the rights of way marked on OS maps round here (Newtown) either no longer or never existed.

Effectively though the bridge is there for the utilities.

Jonathan

[melmerby]

2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

Though presumably if it is a bridle path it is a right of way for foot traffic (however many legs). I am never sure of the status of cycles on bridleways.

Mind you some of the rights of way marked on OS maps round here (Newtown) either no longer or never existed.

Effectively though the bridge is there for the utilities.

Jonathan

Bridleways are also legal paths for foot traffic. They are not legally for cycles unless specifically designated.

Many bridleways are however used for cycles, both legally and illegally.

 

IIRC cyclists allowed on bridleways are expected to observe some courtesy when passing horses and not blast past at 40mph as some do.

 

EDIT

It may be that because this was originally a classified road open to all traffic, horses, pedestrians and cyclists all have a right to use it?

Edited May 2, 2021 by melmerby

[Richard E]

12 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Bridleways are also legal paths for foot traffic. They are not legally for cycles unless specifically designated.

Many bridleways are however used for cycles, both legally and illegally.

 

IIRC cyclists allowed on bridleways are expected to observe some courtesy when passing horses and not blast past at 40mph as some do.

 

But, in this case, there is no alternative for cycles unless they use a 70mph dual carriageway so they have to use the Lincoln Road bridges.

[melmerby]

1 minute ago, Richard E said:

 

But, in this case, there is no alternative for cycles unless they use a 70mph dual carriageway so they have to use the Lincoln Road bridges.

See my edit above

[Donington Road]

The only bridleway was from Waterworks Lane just south of the Glinton roundabout to Hurn Road (where the entrance is to Morgan Sindall).

Before the railway works began in 2018 the Council errected two small signs on the lampost south of Lincoln Road bridge pointing towards Werrington and Hurn Road indicating it was a bridleway, which it never was.  Consequently they managed to get the bridleway which was hard earth from Waterworks Lane to under the A15 bridges re-laid by Morgan Sindall with a rubberised surface for horses complete with mounting/dismounting steps either side of the bridge.

Horses do use it, their usual round trip is Waterworks Lane to Hurn Road which is the rubberised surface, Lincoln Road bridges, Sargeants Way, Foxcovert Road, Peakirk Road to Glinton and back to Waterworks Lane which are all paved, and I have yet to see a rider use the mounting steps.

The rubberised surface is ok for walking on but it is hard going pedalling a bicycle.

 

 

This is the footpath/cycleway leading up to Lincoln Road bridge from Davids Close, the only access.  It is not signposted as a bridleway and is not very user friendly for pedestrians or cyclists if they encounter horses.

 

[Donington Road]

Posted on Twitter today.

EDIT: I don't know how old these photos are, the second photo shows a short pipe across the entrance at the top of the dive under.  When I made the video last week the whole of this pipe has been installed around the site.  It is the diversion pipe for Werrington Drain.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Donington Road