sir douglas Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Post addition 23-11-2021 Deffors was a light railway themed layout with a station and goods yard but as of This summer (from page 12) it has been scrapped down to bare board and is being rebuilt as purely freight/ industrial. Most of the pages are baren now as well full of dead Flickr links which i may eventually get replaced ---------------------------original----------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Deffors will be 60cm by 223cm O gauge layout, a 3 track sector table, 2 track goods yard, headshunt, station, for anyone not familiar with my "bodging" thread, i first posted Deffors on there and the stock that will run on Deffors has been on there http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91456-sirdouglas-o-gauge-bodging/page-1 i have the templot plan printed out and rolled up, the four points built and put away Edited November 23, 2021 by sir douglas 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi, Deffors will be 60cm by 23cm O gauge layout, a 3 track sector table, 2 track goods yard, headshunt, station, Now that is a serious 'minimum space' layout! 24" x 9" would be a challenge in 2mm scale! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 sorry missed a 2 in there, its 60 by 223cm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Another go on Sketchup, this time with a station building. Quite often on branchlines and light railways existing houses and cottages were re used into station buildings, im thinking of having the same thing deffors sketchup ( 8) by Sam, on Flickr across the front will be a street that crosses the tracks, behind the building and on the right are foundations for shops Edited April 27, 2016 by sir douglas 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Even with the 2 added, that is b small. The lines down the middle of your tracks make me hope that it will follow the One True Path, by being third-rail electrified, but I somehow expect that won't be the case. Is the little siding-ette at the front right long enough to be useful? I shall follow with interest. K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 hi K, the lines down the middle are just centre lines, the "siding -ette" is a headshunt so i can keep the shunting onscene 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 "the lines down the middle are just centre lines" As I knew or feared! Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 sorry missed a 2 in there, its 60 by 223cmI still need a conversion to Old Money ...& 3-rail is for American Toy Collectors Where's the "vomit" smiley??!! Small O scale layout, standard gauge track, Light Railway; what's not to like? Will follow this with interest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I still need a conversion to Old Money ...& 3-rail is for American Toy Collectors Where's the "vomit" smiley??!! Me too. Having to convert dimensions into English rather detracts from the interesting plan, as it makes it harder to visualise! 3 rail is O and O-16.5 mixed gauge in my 7mm scale world! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railwayrod Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 A good start Sir Douglas. I will follow your progress with interest. Rod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Roughly seven and a bit feet. Which should please Broad Gauge people. K (Tut, tut, Mr F U Mad. Such a restricted understanding of three-rail. Plenty of us English toy train chaps use it too.) Edited April 27, 2016 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I like the plan. I'm thinking of doing something similar in 4mm. Look forward to seeing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 sudden flurry of comments, thanks for the interest chaps, im thinking of starting it early next year after ive finished and reitred my current layout Halfmoon the conversion is 2' by 7' 4" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Just to give it a go ive rolled out the templot plan onto the largest board i have, and place the points and some stock on deffors (18) by Sam, on Flickr deffors (19) by Sam, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) now dont get your hopes up, i havent started building the layout yet, ive just decided on a whim to build the fiddle yard sector plate Deffors fiddle yard (3) by Sam, on Flickr Deffors fiddle yard (2) by Sam, on Flickr Edited August 7, 2016 by sir douglas 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 last week i was thinking about adding brake vans to the layout. which mans altering the layout fit the longer train length, but without changing the points as ive already made them. the 3 areas that need to be longer are as shown; fiddle yard headshunt and loop shunt which acts a third siding while shunting the layout width hasnt changed but the length obviously has from 223cm up to 250cm. the fiddle yard was made longer by adding a fold out section. and the sidings arent longer as brake vans dont go into them so the extra space gives me little more to play with stuff like a weighbridge or a bit of road out front of the yard a little extra space off the end of the headshunt can be used for something as a visual break into the fiddle yard in the same way that i played with a printout to sort the 4 track fiddle yard, i sketched the alterations on paper by tracing over the printout to get the points right and in relations to the board width and board join, the fiddle yard was traced in further apart in its new position, Point 4 has moved a tiny bit so that the end of the shunt goes into the corner, only when i was happy with it, i modified the templot plan to match and saving it separately of course this was straight away transferred into sketchup This is just an idea and i dont know yet whether im going with "brake van" or "no brake van" layout and yes i havent drawn up the 4 track fiddle yard into templot but that doesnt matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) yesterday i was thinking stuff like be more creative not stick to the norm of straight boards and having a backscene all the way round so here is the plain CAD deffors sketchup screenshot (10) by Sam, on Flickr and with a curve on the corner and without the end backscene. i thik it really opens up the layout and looks better just like the curve on the corner of LGA deffors sketchup screenshot (11) by Sam, on Flickr Telford 2016 by Sam, on Flickr Edited September 8, 2016 by sir douglas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) going two posts back about extending the layout to include a brakevan. In the last few days ive built the folding extension on the fiddleyard the track i already put on had to come off as the rails were too short so i needed fresh track, while i was at it i thought to solder them down in full lengths across the sector plate they are all aligned across the joint and then cut through with a hacksaw blade. when clamping them down, two pieces of styrene put inbetween to space them for the saw deffors fiddleyard (4) by Sam, on Flickr and with the excess rail cut back deffors fiddleyard (5) by Sam, on Flickr and then the rails were cut through and the electrical isolating grooves cut into the copper clad deffors fiddleyard (6) by Sam, on Flickr deffors fiddleyard (7) by Sam, on Flickr the hinges on... and flip deffors fiddleyard (9) by Sam, on Flickr deffors fiddleyard (10) by Sam, on Flickr there is still the wiring connections across the joint to do Edited September 20, 2016 by sir douglas 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) The space in my room is now available for Deffors, Halfmoon Colliery is gone apart from bits that ive saved like plugs, switches, points, rail, controller, retaining walls, the bridge and the muddy road The legs which i might reuse on the layout have been moved to the new spacing. ive sat some thin board over the top of them so i could roll out the templot plan, the points and the fiddle yard have been placed on top the pic has been cropped as i dont want to show the rest of my room. and whats on the fiddleyard is HC's controller wiring put back together to power the test track. these board arent wide enough for the plan and arent going to be used as the board anyway (click on it to enlarge) Edited November 7, 2016 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 still messing with the templot plan, this time trying to make the layout thinner, ive got it down from 600 to 550mm although this just on templot and havent yet tested if the swing of the fiddleyard will go out the board lining up the tracks. everythings been moved around a bit and the points have been rotated, the overall width is 600mm and ive drawn in the 550mm line, also for later reference the fiddleyard track alignment line have been drawn on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) a neighbour threw out a wardrobe with a ply back so i nabbed the ply last night, first thing this morning i cut out 60 x 125cm for one of the boards, with enough left for the sides, ends and a stretcher. templot plan laying on the board. I cut the plan down the board join and cut back excess paper either side of the track but leaving some at the end (top left of plan) as a board edge reference Deffors (23) by Sam, on Flickr Edited November 26, 2016 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) The Templot plan printout was of the old 223cm version and needed altering to match the 250cm layout on the "sidings" board, point 4 needed moving and and extension on the head Deffors (24) by Sam, on Flickr on the end of the tracks i put references marks with measurements to the board edges. the up arrow with 107 is 107mm from the side of the board (below) to the cross and the left arrow with 41 is 41mm from the end of the board (right) to the cross Deffors (25) by Sam, on Flickr on the fiddleyard board, there needed to be a larger gap between the sector plate and point 1 and lengthen the headshunt. the fill was drawn on the back of the old fiddleyard plan Deffors (27) by Sam, on Flickr Deffors (28) by Sam, on Flickr Edited November 28, 2016 by sir douglas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Those look like seriously small point`s Sam!,but they do fit in very well with the overall plan and the stock your building for it. Excellent stuff, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 i wasnt happy with the points being on that thick board so they were seperated, after sticking them down to cardboard, a sleeper and some chairs needed replacing, i still need to replace some mising slide plates Deffors (30) by Sam, on Flickr Deffors (29) by Sam, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Impressive! K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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