Nearholmer Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 This is cracking along wonderfully! Since you got the baseboards done, it has really turned into a railway, and I'm looking forward to seeing buildings grow etc. K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 First of the goods yard siding done Deffors (62) by Sam, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 All the track now laid Deffors (63) by Sam, on Flickr king board tuned upside down and sat on the work mate and the back of a chair, first thing to do is to bend over the ends of the track spikes, about half of them have been done, then give all the underside and outside of the board a coat of PVA as a sealant and then start wiring Deffors (64) by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Looking good so far. I'm wiring my layout today, hope to get something running later! Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) all the wiring on the king board now done except for the inter-board plug, though i forgot to take a photo before i swapped the boards over to the other one and the only space big enough in my room to set the board up to take a photograph is where the other board currently is set up to wire, so it'll have to wait till some other time Edited March 1, 2017 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 wiring on the fiddleyard board now nearly done, the wire is re used from cutting it out of the old layout and putting it away when it was dismantled except for 2 long lengths on this layout that are new cut from the reel. the power plug with wires on and screwed in, this too is re used from the last layout. the power supply is a Hornby controller plug Deffors (65) by Sam, on Flickr like so http://sawyermodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/P9000-220-240V-50-60Hz-Transformer1.jpg wiring diagram drawn up last night deffors wiring by Sam, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) the inter-board plug was fitted yesterday and the boards set back up, this morning i temporarily rigged up the the controller with a chocolate block connector and croc clips and had a little play with J.Aspdin and Halfmoon on the station track video of J. Aspdin https://www.flickr.com/photos/59562189@N03/33068215712/in/dateposted/ and of Halfmoon. apologies for it being dark and my very bad camera handling https://www.flickr.com/photos/59562189@N03/33096804331/in/dateposted/ One of the next things i want to start is the point wiring. about a year ago i put aside some lengths of steel rod for this and as usual when you put something away for safe keeping, you end up not being able to find it, it took me a few days to find them Deffors (66) by Sam, on Flickr Edited March 5, 2017 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) All the wiring done and it all works The panel now with a latch Deffors (74) by Sam, on Flickr Inside the panel Deffors (75) by Sam, on Flickr A travel lock latch on the sector plate Deffors (73) by Sam, on Flickr Gluing a plank into the back of the panel box to give the hook screw something to bite Deffors (72) by Sam, on Flickr The hooks are B&Q flush mounts Deffors (69) by Sam, on Flickr Edited March 7, 2017 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 little hook and loop to hang the controller on Deffors (76) by Sam, on Flickr panel box finished for now with the top on. Deffors (77) by Sam, on Flickr The point rodding on No 4 has now been done, i was going to wire it as well but trying to do it was awkward so ill rod the other 3 then flip the boards to wire them 2 pics here, one of each throw Deffors (79) by Sam, on Flickr Deffors (78) by Sam, on Flickr and point 3 in progress Deffors (80) by Sam, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I like the point operation, i'll try something similar if I can't get my method of dowel and micro switches to work. What diameter was the wire and tube? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L&Y Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Very neat work. I'm really jealous. Just got the gas back on with the pipes replaced. Will be another month before I've got the kitchen back in commission and I can get back on with my baseboard construction. Keep it up. Ten minutes looking at this keeps me sane.... If this is as good as your rolling stock it will be a belter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) steve, 1.5m steel rod and 3mm copper tube with abiut 2.5 inner dia' Edited March 9, 2017 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Point No 3 and 2 now rodded No 3 Deffors (81) by Sam, on Flickr No 2 Deffors (83) by Sam, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 what an infuriating afternoon, I've been wiring the switches after getting the rodding done on point No 1,, lugging the boards around my small room is doable enough but its difficult to get them back together and settled, if you were to think of what would be the tightest space you could comfortably move your boards around in, well then take a bit off that so you only just have the space, also even though im a physically able young person, im a bit short (5'6") so that makes it a bit awkward too. most of the switch wiring went together fine but as always there going to be mistakes and the last switch to do refused to go together for a while, the wires wouldn't solder onto the switch properly kept coming off, i just persisted with it and they did eventually stay one, then after lugging the boards back together i found that point No 4 was dead, a look underneath found that the feed wire came undone while soldering on the switch wire on. That was fixed, next was running the Planet back and forth to test the points, a blade on Point No 3 needed adjusting to get it to sit against the stock rail when thrown, i did that and went back to test running, after flicking the points a few times, a tie bar assembly suddenly decided to fall apart, so that had to be fixed as well. Third chapter of frustration, the Hunslet and the Kitson came out of their boxes for a run but for some reason they are both acting very stuttery even though they are both good runners on the track at the club as ive shown in videos. I'm either getting nothing from them or turn the controller up a tiny bit and they'll shoot off. a Plague of set backs and puzzles in 1 day after having 2 months of easy board building and track laying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2017 Sounds like you may have some partial shorts &/or poor connections on the feeds. Check the brass tubes on the point control don't touch the rails & other possible causes. A test meter can be very helpful tracking down problems, you'll get there. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 thanks Dava, i dont think it is clearance on the tubes as that was made sure of when laying them, so ill have to take the boards down again (URGHH!) to check all the wire joints Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 the problem has been fixed this morning without having to take down the boards, as Dava suggested it was a short. The culprit was a point blade that had slide along in its chairs and closed up the isolating gap with the frog causing a short as i have my blades wired to their stock rails and the solution that came to mind was what ive seen 5050 do which is to put a bit of thin styrene into the gap. Once i opened up the gap again, the locos went straight back to smooth slow running. as precaution i went round all the frog isolating gaps nudging the blades and filling the gaps with styrene if they moved. Another problem was that the ends of some of the blades were sagging which led to the loco riding over them and going down the wrong way so i packed them up with slide plates cut out of brass sheet Here is Point No 2 after the additions Deffors (86) by Sam, on Flickr Started painting the bare sleepers with Railmatch sleeper grime Deffors (88) by Sam, on Flickr cut out the footbridge side that ive shown previously, shown here being held up by a clip Deffors (87) by Sam, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 All the sleepers except the ones to be hidden in the goods yard surface are now painted and im moving onto getting the fiddleyard running here was the last parts to do leading onto the sector plate Deffors (89) by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 As of now i would have had a fully operational layout but a big accident has postponed that Firstly i had to replace the screws under the rail ends to replace them with copper clad and these were packed up to just short of the rail feet with ply, The rail ends were soldered on, then i was going to drill throught the ends of the copper clad and screw them down, after that 15mm long lengths of brass tube would have been soldered onto the copper clad for the track selecting bolts. So i started drilling but I had already drilled the holes in the ends of the copper clad before placing them so next was drilling through the holes into the ply underneath for the screws, some way in the drill got a bit tight in its hole so i was very firmly but slowly easing it back out when it snagged on the copper clad. In doing so ripped up over a foot of track deffors damage (1) by Sam, on Flickr the first job was damage assessment and control, take apart the damaged track, see how many chairs can be re used and start rebuilding In the pic below; top-left are the brass tubes, top-right is a collection of half chairs from making the points, mid-left are the track pins from the ripped track, mid-middle are the half chairs broken fom the track, mid-right are the 2 un used chairs i have left from the original 500, bottom-left are damaged chairs i cant re use and bottom-right are the chairs i can re use, since im short on full chairs, ill have to use the half chairs and glue the in either side of the rail deffors damage (2) by Sam, on Flickr And with the re usable chairs slid back on to the rail deffors damage (3) by Sam, on Flickr after sorting the damage control i just walked away from it for now, "screw this cant be bothered with it today", the time it took to get to that stage would have been enough to have got the tubes soldered on and its going to take me at leat an hour i think to re lay the track so im done for today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Oh dear!! It is deeply off-putting when this sort of thing happens, as it does to us all, occasionally. Worth persisting, though. The fiddle yard for my portable mini-terminus is currently stood in the naughty corner, because, in my enthusiasm to get it ready for an event before Christmas, I persisted with the carp shoot-bolts that I'd got. I made it work, but work badly, and it needs a lot of re-configuration before its next outing, in July. Fortunately, I've now sourced some decent shoot-bolts! If at first ...... K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 the track has been re laid and the tubes soldered on, but now for some reason im getting short from over on the other board even thoug i haven't touched it since it last worked ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 the short has been found and is being sorted, since the other end of the layout is operational, its time to start doing some scenic and preparation for ballasting. polystyrene sheet is being laid inbetween the track and will cover the yard area Deffors (91) by Sam, on Flickr a look at the tubes for the track selecting bolt Deffors (90) by Sam, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) all the polystyrene sheet in the goods yard is now laid Deffors (92) by Sam, on Flickr the nearside rails on the sector plate extension have been wired up Deffors (94) by Sam, on Flickr using more of the 14 x 64mm bed slats (same as the legs) for an end stop which has been screwed on and 4 blocks cut to mount 2 new smaller hinges on higher up to give a larger gap when folded for the end stop Deffors (93) by Sam, on Flickr with the fiddleyard now done i turned my attention to the elusive short which miraculously disappeared so instead now that i have a running layout, i had a play session. the Kitson, 3 wagons chosen at random and the brakevan were assmbled in the fiddleyard, ran out into the loop, ran round, shunted the wagons into a siding, put the brake van into the loop shunt, retrieve the wagons, re assemble the train in the loop and run back into the fiddleyard Deffors (95) by Sam, on Flickr Edited March 21, 2017 by sir douglas 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Milestone passed; congratulations, Sir! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 mocked up the platform and horse dock with cardboard Deffors (96) by Sam, on Flickr but i cant see exactly how i want the layout to look like yet in my head, i have a good idea of the theme/setting and style and whats going where but nothing defined enough to start building it, i haven't yet decided what will go in the gap between the goods yard and the horse dock and i dont know what to do about the horse dock at all apart from the platform edge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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