Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 Water feature.. I enjoy doing these. My greatest weakness is I never follow instructions and just throw it all in. This stagnant pool consists of deep pour water with a murky tint, AK interactives mud at the bottom of the pool (still wet) and all sorts of junk like the bedstead and tyres. The slight cloud on the resin will disappear soon leaving a grubby colour. Above all this will shortly appear a big tree with a tyre and rope attached to a branch. I remember this being here.. 20 20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Apologies if I have missed this, but how many operators does this need and do you have enough for Warley? I am sure you will have plenty of volunteers ( add me to the list for 1 day if required!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2020 Simon, I discovered this thread over Christmas and have now read every page. I can do no more than echo the praise and encouragement others have given. Absolutely awesome in the true sense of this much overused word is all I can think of. Thank you as well for the comprehensive descriptions of how you went about various tasks - they are invaluable. I remember reading about the Lamborghini in Evo (far too many years ago for comfort!) and like you I have spent a lot of money on cars, none as special as the Lamborghini but my favourite 'moderns' have been an Impreza and a Lotus Elise (Toyota engine). Also I still have the Triumph TR3 which I rebuilt from a pile of junk. A number of people said I'd never do it, well they may as well have stood in front of a bull with a giant red flag because each doubter made me stronger. I've run the TR for 20 years now. It's still going strong having competed in historic rallies, been across the Alps and Dolomite many times - yes, the Stelvio at least 4 times - been driven on the Nurburgring and 'off the clock' in the top lane of the banking at Millbrook. So, take no notice of your critics and let each one make you more determined to finish the job and prove them wrong! I'll see you at Warley. I was going to give it a miss this year but not now! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1985 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 09:32, HeatonLodge40 said: Hi James such a shame about the cottages. Is it a sure thing they are going as I know Network Rail often propose these things but don’t finally push ahead with every project. On a positive note I’ve installed a greenhouse on your patio in case you’re into growing tomato plants I can’t say too much on NR due to “ongoing conversations” however I think it’s safe to say it’s going ahead. I’ll fill you in privately! I’m not that green fingered but that wooden bench is ideal to watch the dog leg it through the gap in the fence and dodge the trains.. on a serious note, it looks superb and I can’t wait to see it in person. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 A short video of kitbuilt 56074 undergoing sound testing and motor setup, one of many big noisy 56s that will be earning their keep moving rakes of black gold on HLJ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYCLAwZKu3Y&feature=youtu.be Apologies for the whistle towards the end of the video 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted January 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2020 Nice work, Lee. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) I seem to recall that (possibly) in the period 1982-1985 (ish...) seeing a single DMU 'Bubblecar' (class 121 or 122?) in plain dark BR/DMU blue livery working over the line presumably on a Huddersfield-Wakefield or Leeds service? I also seem to recall that I might have only seen this on weekends. Anyone else seen one passing HL? I know one or two of these classes ended up as driver training / route familiarisation units for the likes of EW&S. There is a model kit of either a 121 or 122 in O gauge - which I have - but so long ago I can't remember which it is. Must dig it out one day. Edited January 21, 2020 by AndrewT Additional info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 hours ago, AndrewT said: I seem to recall that (possibly) in the period 1982-1985 (ish...) seeing a single DMU 'Bubblecar' (class 121 or 122?) in plain dark BR/DMU blue livery working over the line presumably on a Huddersfield-Wakefield or Leeds service? I also seem to recall that I might have only seen this on weekends. Anyone else seen one passing HL? I know one or two of these classes ended up as driver training / route familiarisation units for the likes of EW&S. There is a model kit of either a 121 or 122 in O gauge - which I have - but so long ago I can't remember which it is. Must dig it out one day. You are quite right Andrew a 121 was used for drivers learning the route back then. Heres a poor quality pic of one ascending the dive under line from Huddersfield heading towards Leeds in 1979. Perfect excuse to run the forthcoming model from Heljan in fact. General update in the next couple days by the way 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewT Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 12 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: You are quite right Andrew a 121 was used for drivers learning the route back then. Heres a poor quality pic of one ascending the dive under line from Huddersfield heading towards Leeds in 1979. Perfect excuse to run the forthcoming model from Heljan in fact. General update in the next couple days by the way Checked and mine is a Tower Models class 121. I notice in your photo the orange site huts of Mowlem Construction who were on with rebuilding the Ha'penny Bridge at the time. This was most definitely 'my era' at HL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted January 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2020 Can’t pretend the last couple of weeks have been easy! When I’ve not been up at the real Dent station I’ve been continually working on the curves to connect the scenic side and the fiddle yard. These 30ft/40ft radius curves are about 100ft long & incorporate a loop (for steam charters as I’ve said before). It had been a couple of weeks work to lay the track, make & solder the droppers and install the marcway curved points. However, on finally completing the first inner 2 tracks inc the aforementioned loop, I realised I’d forgotten to superelevate them. In my opinion curves without super elevation often don’t look quite right, - - a bit like modelling a road with no camber. So after an hour swearing I lifted the whole lot. Unfortunately because I’d used PVA to glue the track down it ripped up the cork underneath too. Which meant using multi tools and sanders for another 3 days to finish the job. All in order to insert 2mm thick card under the outer sleepers.! However..I’ve now re-laid all this again and without doubt (even with a 40ft radius curve) once rolling stock is on the track the cant is very noticeable and definitely worth the effort. Should say the loop is not superelevated - apparently they weren’t, I guess because of the slow speeds on them. This section will eventually become scenic, although the initial 90deg 10ft radius curves coming off the scenic section will be covered..see pic. The stagnant water feature was really a pilot for more and has turned out well. With damp trees added and a rope and tyre yet to be affixed to the branches (I used to play on this - in fact still would if it were there) I’ll move on to more of the same. Pics show newly complete connecting tracks (now with superelevation) in both directions & the stagnant water feature. Yes another Tesco bag too.. 25 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 How do you manage the transition from level to super elevated track, Simon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, teaky said: How do you manage the transition from level to super elevated track, Simon? Just a metre of 1mm card then onto the 2mm. Only issue with superelevated track is it uses mountains of ballast to get to sleeper level. Still, it looks good 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 Would it help to super elevate the cork as well as the track? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 21/01/2020 at 19:37, HeatonLodge40 said: You are quite right Andrew a 121 was used for drivers learning the route back then. Heres a poor quality pic of one ascending the dive under line from Huddersfield heading towards Leeds in 1979. Perfect excuse to run the forthcoming model from Heljan in fact. General update in the next couple days by the way Hard to be certain but it looks like it has the class 122 style smaller route destination box. I see some side windows seem to have been painted over so this might help identify it. I have tried unsuccessfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Stubby47 said: Would it help to super elevate the cork as well as the track? Have to say I never thought of that! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Would it help to super elevate the cork as well as the track? 3 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Have to say I never thought of that! I superelevate the whole trackbed, which has slits cut so that each track can be canted separately. The natural twistiness of the plywood provides a smooth transition from uncanted to canted and back again. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Just a metre of 1mm card then onto the 2mm. Only issue with superelevated track is it uses mountains of ballast to get to sleeper level. Still, it looks good Key question Simon is can you basically have a couple of trains running all the time while you work now?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 54 minutes ago, Growling said: Key question Simon is can you basically have a couple of trains running all the time while you work now?! Not yet sadly. The frames that carry the curves at the opposite end are due from Tim Horn in a month or so. Once they are finished then it’ll take me 2 weeks to lay the track on these. I’m looking forward to that day believe me. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Maybe some ideas here: https://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4066&p=72158#p72158 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Grovenor said: Maybe some ideas here: https://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4066&p=72158#p72158 Thanks. Bit late now for me though! That said the large amount of ballast required on superelevated track is the same whether you elevate just the track or the track bed itself.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, BR Blue said: Hard to be certain but it looks like it has the class 122 style smaller route destination box. I see some side windows seem to have been painted over so this might help identify it. I have tried unsuccessfully. That looks like the position of the extra double door added for parcels use. Edited January 23, 2020 by TheSignalEngineer Forget that, I'm talking rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Thanks. Bit late now for me though! That said the large amount of ballast required on superelevated track is the same whether you elevate just the track or the track bed itself.. Simon, I think not. If you assume a superelevation of 2mm, and standard 8’6” sleepers, you’ll require a wedge of 59.5 sq mm extra. If you assume that you use a piece of 2mm card 10mm wide, to lift the high ends of the sleepers, you can subtract 20mm2 from that. Assume this is only the case between sleepers, ie no ballast under them, then you have 20” between sleepers and 10” of sleeper, so 2/3 of the length. I can’t remember the radius of your curves but let’s assume they’re 5m (about 16 feet) - a half circle would therefore be 2.5 x Pi metres long = 7854mm the extra ballast required would be 2/3 x 7854 x (59.5 - 20) which = 206821 mm3 per track. That’s 0.2 litres, or around 800g. it’ll actually be more than this because the shoulder on the high side is both higher and longer, but you get the picture. You might save a couple of kilos... not sure it’ll make a difference in the overall scheme of things! atb Simon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, Simond said: Simon, I think not. If you assume a superelevation of 2mm, and standard 8’6” sleepers, you’ll require a wedge of 59.5 sq mm extra. If you assume that you use a piece of 2mm card 10mm wide, to lift the high ends of the sleepers, you can subtract 20mm2 from that. Assume this is only the case between sleepers, ie no ballast under them, then you have 20” between sleepers and 10” of sleeper, so 2/3 of the length. I can’t remember the radius of your curves but let’s assume they’re 5m (about 16 feet) - a half circle would therefore be 2.5 x Pi metres long = 7854mm the extra ballast required would be 2/3 x 7854 x (59.5 - 20) which = 206821 mm3 per track. That’s 0.2 litres, or around 800g. it’ll actually be more than this because the shoulder on the high side is both higher and longer, but you get the picture. You might save a couple of kilos... not sure it’ll make a difference in the overall scheme of things! atb Simon Is pedantry scaleable?!!! Mike. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 Blimey Einstein's,,,,,, I have trouble working out how many tiles I need to do the bathroom ..... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, jcarta said: Blimey Einstein's,,,,,, I have trouble working out how many tiles I need to do the bathroom ..... That's easy. One box more than you bought. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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