HeatonLodge40 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 10 hours ago, AndrewT said: If I'd a Lambo' Miura.... I'm not sure I'd have entrusted its safe passage to BR Motorail ! I don’t think it would have gone up the ramp! Beautiful car though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted June 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2021 A very quick vid of the Motorail train starting from signals on its way to Manchester via Hebden Bridge. The two Heljan 31’s just managed ok 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Simon, I see you have a few cars facing backwards, and the rest facing forwards. That raised a question in my mind, I had imagined that all cars faced forwards, or at least all the same way. I did try to Google it, and found one image with them all facing backwards (this seems like a good way of getting water in places where it don’t belong, given that 60’s cars were not quite the same standards as those of today) but the others did indeed face the same way as the train appeared to be going. And of course that’s what they do on Eurotunnel and the Alpine tunnels too. Do you have any info about the operation? cheers Simon 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2021 57 minutes ago, HeatonLodge40 said: A very quick vid of the Motorail train starting from signals on its way to Manchester via Hebden Bridge. The two Heljan 31’s just managed ok Looks fantastic, I bet that is bloody heavy, vanguards aren't light. Shame they don't do BL 80s stuff as they would have been quite prolific at that time 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, russ p said: Looks fantastic, I bet that is bloody heavy, vanguards aren't light. Shame they don't do BL 80s stuff as they would have been quite prolific at that time I’ve a Princess on there and of course the Minis! Look out for the 1976 Lotus Esprit S1 too. It is a very heavy train, not sure if two 31’s in real life would pull it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, Simond said: Simon, I see you have a few cars facing backwards, and the rest facing forwards. That raised a question in my mind, I had imagined that all cars faced forwards, or at least all the same way. I did try to Google it, and found one image with them all facing backwards (this seems like a good way of getting water in places where it don’t belong, given that 60’s cars were not quite the same standards as those of today) but the others did indeed face the same way as the train appeared to be going. And of course that’s what they do on Eurotunnel and the Alpine tunnels too. Do you have any info about the operation? cheers Simon You’re right Simon the cars all should be facing the same way as apparently the flats were all loaded from one end. I just need to swap a few of the flats around as the cars are all facing the same way on each flat (if you know what I mean). There is a great group on Facebook called British Railways The lost Motorail services which has some great photos 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, HeatonLodge40 said: I’ve a Princess on there and of course the Minis! Look out for the 1976 Lotus Esprit S1 too. It is a very heavy train, not sure if two 31’s in real life would pull it. I saw the lotus , unfortunately the vanguard minis aren't quite too good except for the clubman . If it's early 80s there would be a fair few metros but other than the 6R4 there isn't a 1/43 model Two 31s in real life would have no trouble at all ,cars aren't heavy especially back then . 31s are gutsy things with a decent tractive effort. They were originally on the coil trains to corby and a pair used to lift good loads out of Boulby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, russ p said: I saw the lotus , unfortunately the vanguard minis aren't quite too good except for the clubman . If it's early 80s there would be a fair few metros but other than the 6R4 there isn't a 1/43 model Two 31s in real life would have no trouble at all ,cars aren't heavy especially back then . 31s are gutsy things with a decent tractive effort. They were originally on the coil trains to corby and a pair used to lift good loads out of Boulby You must be the first railwayman I’ve seen, who didn’t think the 31s were gutless rubbish ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1956 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I remember seeing trains of carflats passing Mirfield in the 70s, mostly empty, but occasionally loaded, usually Land Rovers. Would a Motorail train surely have passenger coaches too? Not criticising, just curious! On a previous matter, can't wait to see the TP set in action. Has it got sound? The exhaust used to hit resonance in third gear under acceleration and give a real rattly bellow! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, ferret1956 said: I remember seeing trains of carflats passing Mirfield in the 70s, mostly empty, but occasionally loaded, usually Land Rovers. Would a Motorail train surely have passenger coaches too? Not criticising, just curious! On a previous matter, can't wait to see the TP set in action. Has it got sound? The exhaust used to hit resonance in third gear under acceleration and give a real rattly bellow! Towards the very end of Motorail services, there were some routes where the passengers travelled by scheduled passenger services. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 hours ago, rob D2 said: You must be the first railwayman I’ve seen, who didn’t think the 31s were gutless rubbish ! They aren't bad at all ,not the most powerful but the ride nice , have a decent cab and quiet inside. Much better working environment than a 66 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 hours ago, ferret1956 said: I remember seeing trains of carflats passing Mirfield in the 70s, mostly empty, but occasionally loaded, usually Land Rovers. Would a Motorail train surely have passenger coaches too? Not criticising, just curious! On a previous matter, can't wait to see the TP set in action. Has it got sound? The exhaust used to hit resonance in third gear under acceleration and give a real rattly bellow! You are right as most Motorail trains had passenger coaches attached too. However I’m told on popular busy routes passengers often went first with a dedicated Motorail train with the cars following behind. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1956 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, HeatonLodge40 said: You are right as most Motorail trains had passenger coaches attached too. However I’m told on popular busy routes passengers often went first with a dedicated Motorail train with the cars following behind. Reminds me of the much abused Concorde adverts. Breakfast in London Dinner in Aberdeen Car in Lowestoft 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted June 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2021 14 hours ago, rob D2 said: You must be the first railwayman I’ve seen, who didn’t think the 31s were gutless rubbish ! I don't think they were gutless, just 0-60 in 10 minutes unless light engine or going downhill. Oh, and in later years very good at vibro-massage on the backside. I did over 40 miles at up to 60mph checking signal sighting and AWS, etc using 'Sister Dora' from the Bescot Engineers Pool in 1993. Could hardly stand when got out onto the platform at Rugby. Had to sit on a bench for a few minutes to recover before I could walk back to the Power Box to sign the job in. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: You are right as most Motorail trains had passenger coaches attached too. However I’m told on popular busy routes passengers often went first with a dedicated Motorail train with the cars following behind. That looks like a perfect opportunity for a spectacular "lost luggage" episode! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Simond said: That looks like a perfect opportunity for a spectacular "lost luggage" episode! Apparently BR banned roof racks in later years as suitcases disappeared! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2021 BR introduced blue foam windscreen protectors at some stage--presumably fitted with straps passing through the front doors. Best to ignore this to save your great work on the wiper marks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted June 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2021 Now that the best part of 60 Mk1 coaches have landed I’m slowly filling them with passengers. It does make a huge difference seeing full coaches passing instead of the usual modelled empty rakes. I’m using the Preiser seated figs, hot glued into place with their legs chopped off. There’s also lots of standing figures including guards and photographers leaning out of open windows - these from Modelu. Also been busy painting a lot of pipe loads from skytrex, these await the wooden frames painting. Pleased with these too, they fit nicely in the Heljan OAA’s. Finally the timetable is taking shape which shows the date. The date might change when, for example I fancy running a Colas rail Cargowaggen train. Mostly it will show 1983 65 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37038 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Looks good with lots of detail on the screen. Have you thought about changing the screen display for the different eras? Such as a 'split/flip' style for the 80's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Nice work as always on a superb layout but shouldn't the number E3607 be on the other end of the Mk1 coach (assuming E3607 wasn't a one off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 24/06/2021 at 23:31, deltic17 said: Nice work as always on a superb layout but shouldn't the number E3607 be on the other end of the Mk1 coach (assuming E3607 wasn't a one off? Yep I got this wrong! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1956 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Apologies if everyone else in the World bar me has seen this, but I found this on YouTube. The full layout in real life, plus a diversion to the Bradley flyunder including the (apparently now doomed footbridge)! The whole 3 hour thing is a tad overkill, but fast forward to 3:05:10 to "leave the fiddle yard". 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 hours ago, ferret1956 said: Apologies if everyone else in the World bar me has seen this, but I found this on YouTube. The full layout in real life, plus a diversion to the Bradley flyunder including the (apparently now doomed footbridge)! The whole 3 hour thing is a tad overkill, but fast forward to 3:05:10 to "leave the fiddle yard". Not bad modelling, but not a patch on Simons! Mike. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Thanks for the video (and the comment Mike!) I am currently still working on the very last of the automation with the software chaps. A couple of weeks should see it all running on its own. Next month is a practise dismantling and setting up. Then it’s two months of testing trains for any track issues etc 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted July 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2021 Had a break this week from helping out with the automation so turned my attention to scenic work. I’d been meaning for ages to redo the river and all the water features on the layout as I made a complete hash of it a few months ago. In fact it was in front of some cameras where I mixed the wrong casting hardener and the river almost disappeared in a cloud of smoke and steam. Anyway.. here are the pics from my efforts of yesterday (plus a couple with some new figs from modelU). Used about 2kg of casting resin and mixed them together with two different woodland scenics dyes - yellow silt and murky. Im really pleased with the results and the ‘deep’ appearance of the river. Had a bit of casting resin left so redid all the puddles, the sewerage works and the streams. Glad to say it’s all set like concrete too 69 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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