RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Looks fab! Only issue with kitbuilt stuff on HLJ is they are rarely heavy enough to pull anything longer than 6/7 coaches or 15 wagons, even with lead weights inside. So going forward both the kitbuilt 56’s (56074 & 09) will usually be seen running together pulling a heavy (40 +) MGR train. With their diecast chassis the Heljan’s on the other hand will romp away with 40 on their own. I’m almost done on the west end curves now, next week it’s back to proper modelling. Too much rolling resistance, your curves need to be a larger radius! Mike. (Running for cover.) Edited February 20, 2020 by Enterprisingwestern 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Too much rolling resistance, your curves need to be a larger radius! Mike. (Running for cover.) There's plenty of floor space... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 18 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Looks fab! Only issue with kitbuilt stuff on HLJ is they are rarely heavy enough to pull anything longer than 6/7 coaches or 15 wagons, even with lead weights inside. So going forward both the kitbuilt 56’s (56074 & 09) will usually be seen running together pulling a heavy (40 +) MGR train. With their diecast chassis the Heljan’s on the other hand will romp away with 40 on their own. I’m almost done on the west end curves now, next week it’s back to proper modelling. One advantage of kitbuilt diesels is theres usually plenty of room the add weight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 hours ago, CME and Bottlewasher said: Hi Cracking looking beast. What motors (how many motors) and gearsets/boxes are fitted to it? Is it all wheel drive? It is true to say that some brass and resin kits need extra weight, but they should be on a par with RTR. Regards, CME Yes all wheel drive with two Maxon motors and Delrin chain drive. Gearbox is a ABC gears unit. There isn’t much room for more weight once sound/decoder/smoke unit fitted. Loco has to weigh 2.7/3kgs to pull 36 MGR’s basically, at the moment it’s about 2kg 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Yes all wheel drive with two Maxon motors and Delrin chain drive. Gearbox is a ABC gears unit. There isn’t much room for more weight once sound/decoder/smoke unit fitted. Loco has to weigh 2.7/3kgs to pull 36 MGR’s basically, at the moment it’s about 2kg Ahhhh yes, I see, the electronics take up a lot of space so it's a trade off. Shame that some PCBs can't be manufactured to reduce some of that physical 'clutter' (wiring/bulk etc). Still a nice looking loco though - it's like the old MR adage, what's better than a Compound? Two Compounds! LOL! I can get away with one power bogie and Radio Control which means added weight with batteries too - still able to pull reasonable trains, not that I need or intend to. Edited February 20, 2020 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted February 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2020 I have just received the most horrendous news and it has sent me to a very dark place indeed......................Due to other commitments outside of my control, I wont be able to make Warley 2020 therefore I will miss this, the largest and probably best, most realistic, prototypical layout in the land!!! Worst still, it means I will now have to take the wife to some of the shopping centre's this is stopping at so I can see it along with Joe public and the screaming kid society!! Not impressed! BTW: Beautiful work and the weathering on that diesel is just superb - shame its not a preserved Princess or Duchess though!!!! I was gutted when the BR/LMR liveried Duchess of Hamilton didn't make your list of possible heritage train formations though! Although i'm not sure if it went through Heaton Lodge when it was running on the mainline in the 80's! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Thanks Ian, I’m not sure either if a Duchess went through HLJ in the ‘80’s but the problem is there isn’t a RTR example in ‘O’. Shame. There will be a number of steam locos pulling charters in the future on HLJ but a 9F & an A4 will have to do for now. When the 9F eventually lands I will post a video. With synchronised smoke & sound it should look great with 13 on. Ref shopping centres you might find they are just as good a bet as Warley. You won’t have to pay £16 for parking for a start! I will publish a list of where and when HLJ will be later this year. Just started back on scenery today. I have 4 months to finish the remaining eight 5’x4’ frames which includes the 3ft x 5ft River Calder. Another more comprehensive update soon.. Oh and thanks to all who voted for me in the RM modelling awards, very flattered & much appreciated. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold uk_pm Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 hours ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Thanks Ian, I’m not sure either if a Duchess went through HLJ in the ‘80’s but the problem is there isn’t a RTR example in ‘O’. Shame. There will be a number of steam locos pulling charters in the future on HLJ but a 9F & an A4 will have to do for now. When the 9F eventually lands I will post a video. With synchronised smoke & sound it should look great with 13 on. Ref shopping centres you might find they are just as good a bet as Warley. You won’t have to pay £16 for parking for a start! I will publish a list of where and when HLJ will be later this year. Just started back on scenery today. I have 4 months to finish the remaining eight 5’x4’ frames which includes the 3ft x 5ft River Calder. Another more comprehensive update soon.. Oh and thanks to all who voted for me in the RM modelling awards, very flattered & much appreciated. You were robbed; that award definitely should have been yours! HLJ is surely the undisputed king of all layouts in the land. What an inspiration. PM 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted February 25, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, uk_pm said: You were robbed; No-one's been robbed of anything - I feel the outcome may be substantially different next year when more people have been 'exposed' to the behemoth. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, AY Mod said: when more people have been 'exposed' to the behemoth. Is that the layout or the operator?!! Mike. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold uk_pm Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2020 6 hours ago, AY Mod said: No-one's been robbed of anything - I feel the outcome may be substantially different next year when more people have been 'exposed' to the behemoth. Erm, the exclamation mark was supposed to connote a humorous aside intended to convey my admiration for this wonderful project. Apologies if my cack-handed efforts have caused consternation to the moderators of RMWeb. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted February 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2020 If you are heading to the East of England or Lakeside I will definitely try to get to see it, and I am sure you will do much better in the next round of competitions once they see this layout in person as Andy Y points out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Thank you again Ian though it’s been a long time since I enjoyed receiving attention! So..emphasis is now back at the scenic end. Spent the last two days rectifying issues with gaps being slightly too large between frames. It’s a thankless task digging out ballast that has set to realign a rail head by less than a millimetre but it bugs me if not done. Cork laying has been the order of the day, this on the final frame with 6 tracks. The two Huddersfield lines peel off here on a falling gradient and meet the dive under (also Huddersfield) lines which after the tunnel rise steeply. These then re-form into 4 tracks at Heaton Lodge South Junction. This is slightly out of my modelling envelope unfortunately. On another note the first of the information boards are complete. These simply tell the story all the way down the scenic side which translates into a heck of a lot of words (and pictures). They will be affixed to triangular brackets all along the front. Edited February 27, 2020 by HeatonLodge40 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 First of 40 front info boards.. 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted February 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2020 Your dedication and perseverance is shining through..... Come on, please keep going ..... only two words for this master piece ...... memories & dedication..... Trust me ...... We all want to see it .... Jim 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 15:11, Mick Bonwick said: Love the texture on the underparts. The Joys of 3d printing! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, jcarta said: Your dedication and perseverance is shining through..... Come on, please keep going ..... only two words for this master piece ...... memories & dedication..... Trust me ...... We all want to see it .... Jim Thanks Jim. Yes in all honesty most days are good, some are very frustrating, some demoralising & some I just kick the door hard and go home early. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 This is more like it.. Work starting to ‘Yorkshirefy’ the two river bridges originally built by Allan Downes. I begin by rolling on a thin layer of DAS over PVA. Once dry I’ll carve the outline of the stonework then add more dabs of clay to each stone to get the ‘jutting out’ effect. Once dry I’ll carve and shape the ‘juts’ before painting the result with water colours. The stone viaduct is still used today the girder bridge disused since the late ‘60’s. Heres a pic of them both .. 32 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 Outstanding...and as ever inspirational 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Another milestone today in that the first gantry is now fully automated thanks to my software buddies. This so passing trains will now initiate the full red/yellow/double yellow/green sequence depending on their positions in the different block sections around the layout. The aspects need dimming slightly and the ‘delay’ between them programming in.. Here’s a short clip of a 56 testing .. https://youtu.be/27yJcH9LIDA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 And 80ft in the other direction the feathers now light when the points are set correctly 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 I can't see the video... Kev. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Yep coming up private for me too. Been following this thread for a while and it never ceases to amaze me the detail going into this masterpiece. When you can say "And 80ft in the other direction" you know its something special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 Ah sorry I’ll try again.. 21 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, HeatonLodge40 said: Another milestone today in that the first gantry is now fully automated thanks to my software buddies. This so passing trains will now initiate the full red/yellow/double yellow/green sequence depending on their positions in the different block sections around the layout. The aspects need dimming slightly and the ‘delay’ between them programming in.. Here’s a short clip of a 56 testing .. https://youtu.be/27yJcH9LIDA A minor tweak is also needed to stop the other red flickering when the signal changes from green to red. I am sure your software boys will be up to the task. Geoff Endacott 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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