RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 I've not noticed the 68 deltic thing, I think they have a hymek sound about them . I suppose both being high revving V16s there will be some similarities 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I live about five miles north of the Liv-Man' line at Leigh, i can hear them most days crossing Chat Moss and Glazebury and i just love hearing them in the distance when i'm in my garden, and they do remind me of the Deltics. Two must have passed each other on Sunday morn' judging by the racket! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, russ p said: I've not noticed the 68 deltic thing, I think they have a hymek sound about them . I suppose both being high revving V16s there will be some similarities Can't remember what Hymeks sounded like - they all went a long time ago! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 I've not really heard them from a distance, either cab or train are the only places I've heard them At least they make some decent noise in tunnels, luckily they have a vigilance warning light which must be watched for if window is open in a tunnel 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, russ p said: I've not really heard them from a distance, either cab or train are the only places I've heard them At least they make some decent noise in tunnels, luckily they have a vigilance warning light which must be watched for if window is open in a tunnel i have in the past made the class 68 - Deltic sound analogy from hearing both types climbing up the tame valley from stalybridge - Diggle from the otherside of the valley for me its more the thrum both types make that echoes around the valley that is similar 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The 68 is not like the diesels of the past mentioned in the posts, engine silencing and suppression of noise is far higher priority these days, the old "hit and miss" mechanical fuel injectors of the past have been replaced by modern computer controlled injection systems, the 68 is a steady spinner with the smooth quiet precision of an industrial diesel generator set. note, we had a modern genset powering our works for a year, you could stand along side the genset cabin and not be able to tell if the diesel was running such was the quality of the exhaust silencing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 Still awaiting its TransPennine Express livery vinyls, Nova 1 802207 sweeps through Ravensthorpe on 17th October 2019 with 9E09, 09.25 Liverpool Lime Street to Newcastle. The class 802/2 Nova 1 sets have settled down to working two daily diagrams. These are the expected workings today; 802218 working; 9E06 06.25 Liverpool Lime Street - Newcastle 9M08 10.02 Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street 9E13 13.25 Liverpool Lime Street - Newcastle 9M15 17.02 Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street 9E20 20.25 Liverpool Lime Street -Newcastle 802207 working; 9M04 06.03 Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street 9E09 09.25 Liverpool Lime Street - Newcastle 9M11 13.00 Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street 9E16 16.25 Liverpool Lime Street - Newcastle 9M18 20.01 Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, Pandora said: The 68 is not like the diesels of the past mentioned in the posts, engine silencing and suppression of noise is far higher priority these days, the old "hit and miss" mechanical fuel injectors of the past have been replaced by modern computer controlled injection systems, the 68 is a steady spinner with the smooth quiet precision of an industrial diesel generator set. note, we had a modern genset powering our works for a year, you could stand along side the genset cabin and not be able to tell if the diesel was running such was the quality of the exhaust silencing That's as may well be, but have you been anywhere near a Class 68 leaving a station? Quiet it ain't!! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 It's not even quiet on idle, I do wonder if TPE will want extra silencing as when proving train supply they are noisy especially under station roofs. They are without doubt the best sounding loco since the 56 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, russ p said: It's not even quiet on idle, I do wonder if TPE will want extra silencing as when proving train supply they are noisy especially under station roofs. They are without doubt the best sounding loco since the 56 Or when the people who live near the new depot at Scarborough start making a noise of their own! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Saw 9E09 through Ashton-under-Lyne this morning just after 10 a.m., slowing for a stop at Stalybridge(?). Most impressive! If they are still on these diagrams next Thursday, I'm taking my camera with me! Edited October 17, 2019 by 62613 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, 31A said: That's as may well be, but have you been anywhere near a Class 68 leaving a station? Quiet it ain't!! you beat me to it i can here the trains powering up the valley from stalybridge as live just above the former Micklehirst loop line and you can clearly hear the class 68 powered trains with the windows shut so the silencing cant be upto much and yes they do have the hum and thrum similar to a Deltic off power when climbing the valley 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 62613 said: Saw 9E09 through Ashton-under-Lyne this morning just after 10 a.m., slowing for a stop at Stalybridge(?). Most impressive! If they are still on these diagrams next Thursday, I'm taking my camera with me! 9E09 is not booked to stop at Stalybridge, but the line speed reduces to 35MPH for Stalybridge Junction, before easing to 50MPH through Stalybridge station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 The Deltics went up the Tame valley (Stalybridge up to Diggle) on constant revs too - fully open! which made a similar sound to these new 68s both in Hz and dB's. Kev. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, SHMD said: The Deltics went up the Tame valley (Stalybridge up to Diggle) on constant revs too - fully open! which made a similar sound to these new 68s both in Hz and dB's. Kev. the usual place i got to hear the Deltics would be just after they shut off approaching saddleworth viaduct right opposite saddleworth school usualy during double english on a thursday afternoon as witch ever of the following weekends railtour engine worked the 13.05 ex limestreet back to york on a check run they would hum and thrum over the viaduct towards Diggle . the other times i would here them is on the return york mail then you would here the snarl as they were worked hard up the valley happy days 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2019 Remember hearing Deltics when I was a kid as they bowled along the ECML between Sandy and St. Neots; the village I grew up in was a good 5 miles from the main line but the noise was plainly audible as they went along on sleepers on summer nights! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 17/10/2019 at 10:13, 31A said: Can't remember what Hymeks sounded like - they all went a long time ago! From distant memories of Oxford from 1971 to 75, they were flipping noisy Steve ! And having had the occasional chance to ride behind 7017 and 7076 in preservation, they still are. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railpassion Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I had a ride last week. Very impressed by the loco haulage. Smooth quiet carriages and a step change in quality. No engine beneath the floor so a much less stressful saloon experience. Alas the seats are too hard and the window alignment is very poor. But, the thrash from the 68 is superb, it's an incredible deep roar which is lower in pitch than a deltic and full bodied. Its a sort of Railjet experience which brings back in a new form the great days of loco haulage across the Pennines. Ditch the plastic and buy more of these for Cross Country. With only five carriages, acceleration is excellent and I do wonder if these should be seven carriages to provide much needed capacity before too long. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted October 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Railpassion said: . With only five carriages, acceleration is excellent and I do wonder if these should be seven carriages to provide much needed capacity before too long. Much depends on platform lengths - particularly at Termmi or busy intermediate stations where the use of selective door opening would add too much to the dwell time to be a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 any diagrames for sunday for the 68s or the bimodes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 The first 397 is due to be in passenger service on Monday. Diagram unknown, diagram may change from day to day. Will cause some fun with seat reservations booked for a 350. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 18/10/2019 at 12:43, caradoc said: From distant memories of Oxford from 1971 to 75, they were flipping noisy Steve ! And having had the occasional chance to ride behind 7017 and 7076 in preservation, they still are. Indeed they were noisy. Introduced prematurely into traffic on the South Wales main line in 1962 to replace Kings,Castles etc .they were thrashed flat out with 13 Mk 1 at just 1700 hp..I can still hear,even today,that high revving drumming noise, Understandably,there was quite a rate of failure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 It's been posted on another forum this evening that the two Mark 5/class 68 diagrams (Nova 3s in TransPennine Express speak) that were operating have been taken out of service indefinitely due to "an issue with the brake circuits". Information posted here in good faith, as no other detail or corroboration has appeared elsewhere yet. The original post was made by someone who, from his previous posts, is well acquainted with train diagrams at TransPennine Express. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, 4630 said: It's been posted on another forum this evening that the two Mark 5/class 68 diagrams (Nova 3s in TransPennine Express speak) that were operating have been taken out of service indefinitely due to "an issue with the brake circuits". Information posted here in good faith, as no other detail or corroboration has appeared elsewhere yet. The original post was made by someone who, from his previous posts, is well acquainted with train diagrams at TransPennine Express. Thanks for posting. It's news to me. So does that leave any MK5 sets for TPE currently operational? Three sets in store at Longtown, two sets removed from service indefinitely. I'm sure their are a few more in the country but don't know when they last worked or if they have ever worked in passenger service as of yet. Very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 I believe it’s the current two daily diagrams that have been taken out entirely, which suggests that no TPE Mk5 sets are currently operational. Hopefully it’ll be a short-term issue and they’ll soon be back out in service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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