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My first three landed on Monday from Oxford themselves.  

 

They look fine from my parameters - they will only be used in long block formations, won't be scheduled to stop whilst stage-front, and if so only briefly, and accommodate four appropriate cars (two small and two large saloons) snugly, as I've seen pictures of the prototype do.

 

Most of all, they capture the subtle essence of the real thing: relatively plain and simple, but nuanced with the side rails, timbered floor, large buffers, and spartan underframe with its usual LHCS gubbins moved or eliminated.  Now to get to work on the all important loads themselves  :angel:

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A very nice model but I'm finding the bogies to be rather frustrating.

 

They are a beautiful moulding with brake shoes set back from the bogie frame but they have been designed to take 3' (12mm) wheels rather than the 3'7" (14mm ish) that they should have.

 

What is it with Oxford - are they offering a prize for finding the 'deliberate' mistake?

 

Just when I thought that we might be able to look forward to some 60' Stanier coaches!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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Question; do they come with any yellow wheel chocks to stop ones load moving? + didn't they get left lying around on the decking when the carflat was empty?

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Question; do they come with any yellow wheel chocks to stop ones load moving? + didn't they get left lying around on the decking when the carflat was empty?

 

Yes, the requisite sixteen.

 

 

...just to confirm

 

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Question; do they come with any yellow wheel chocks to stop ones load moving? + didn't they get left lying around on the decking when the carflat was empty?

Yes they do.

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Why will they sit lower with some weight ?  any more comments on the wrong size wheels.

 

Really ?????

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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Question; do they come with any yellow wheel chocks to stop ones load moving? + didn't they get left lying around on the decking when the carflat was empty?

What is the small pip on them does this need filing down, any one tried to fit alternate bogies with correct size wheels.

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What is the small pip on them does this need filing down, any one tried to fit alternate bogies with correct size wheels.

Fitting alternate bogies with correct size wheels will produce something very odd! :jester:

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What is the small pip on them does this need filing down.

Probably the locating pip to push into the deck to place them correctly.

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Probably the locating pip to push into the deck to place them correctly.

Then you would have to drill a hole in the decking,  this would be sitting not flush.

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I've had one of the Carflats on the desk for photographing, if the sample had arrived earlier it would have been reviewed in BRM but as September issue is already full and ready to go to press shortly I thought I'd share the images here.

 

It's a nice enough wagon, looks like what it purports to be and with a respectable standard of decoration which will probably please most. I particularly like the bumper irons on the ends and the provision of the 16 wheel chocks. I'm bemused though why undersized wheels were used, it looked very obvious as soon as I took it out of the box. There doesn't seem to be any operational reason for using the 12mm wheels rather than 14mm but it wouldn't be a straightforward swap over as the brakes are closely positioned to the wheels.

 

Rarely do I feel a box is worth mentioning but in this case I will, it feels flimsy and does not help to communicate quality I am afraid. Although there's a plastic liner to hold the wagon there was brake gear hanging down underneath the wagon and it's not evident whether anything is broken or missing but there must be as it won't go back into any place. There's also a missing buffer and bent or missing lamp brackets.

 

I'm afraid if this was a product I'd purchased it would be returned to the retailer. Poor QC or poor packaging or maybe it's just done the rounds; whichever way it doesn't do the manufacturer any favours when they would like a product to be reviewed.

 

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Initially I liked the idea of the separate springs on the bogies but after looking at Andy Y's phots I wonder how many might fall off in transit. Even taking into account the moulded brake shoes there doesn't seen to be much transverse wiggle room for fitting EM wheels, never mind P4?

 

The damaged brake lever doesn't bode too well but it allows you to see the split brake lever guide which is a nice touch.

 

A minor point on the livery. I think the background to the number plate should be Freight red/brown. I've looked at a few colour phots of virtually ex works car flats over the last couple of months and they all had brown backgrounds.

 

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Even taking into account the moulded brake shoes there doesn't seen to be much transverse wiggle room for fitting EM wheels, never mind P4?

 

 

Not much chance. 21.5mm distance between inner faces of bogie sides.

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I did have hopes of the wheel chocks, but they look nothing like the proper ones which were plate steel assemblies with jags on the underside to dig into the wooden deck.

Back to plan A and an etch will be forthcoming.

 

Mike.

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I did have hopes of the wheel chocks, but they look nothing like the proper ones which were plate steel assemblies with jags on the underside to dig into the wooden deck.

 

 

Sort of like these???

 

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Back to plan A and an etch will be forthcoming.

 

A clever former/jig included to replicate those reverse compound curves?

 

Ah, how I remember the 35 ton GLW tank chassis???      :wink_mini:

 

P

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There's also a missing buffer

 

That has now turned up in the corner of the box when I packed it up; it dropped straight out again.

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Sort of like these???

 

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A clever former/jig included to replicate those reverse compound curves?

 

Ah, how I remember the 35 ton GLW tank chassis???      :wink_mini:

 

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Pedantically, the 35 tonner were nowt to do with me dreckly!

It will be easy enough to file your own press tool up for the chocks.

 

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Mike.

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What is the small pip on them does this need filing down, any one tried to fit alternate bogies with correct size wheels.

 

 

Looking at the recently posted photos....I would say these may represent carrying and positioning handles?

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CF6.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Did CARFLATs really have left-facing brake handles on one side? I thought that these went out decades before their conversion from coach underframes.

 

...... and BR builder's plates tampo-printed over a raised rectangular feature - these are supposed to be cast plates !!

 

Churn 'em out for the undiscerning - they'll neither know nor care.

 

Not for me, I'm afraid.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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I got mine hoping to save time building one.

 

Looking at the wheels, and possible remedies, it's gone back in the box for now.

 

It's a bit like a cross eyed mate, you try not to notice it but you just can't help it........

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Thank you - I stand corrected.

 

It also explains why ex-LMS 6-wheeled Palethorpes vans had left-facing brake handles; clearly there was no such ban!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

 

Was the ban only applicable to freight wagons and NPCCS was exempt?

 

Mark Saunders

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A minor point on the livery. I think the background to the number plate should be Freight red/brown. I've looked at a few colour phots of virtually ex works car flats over the last couple of months and they all had brown backgrounds.

 

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Oxford have back dated my FVV to have CARFLAT. The number plate is black, although the FVV is on a FSR strip.  So congrats to Oxford. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagonphotographs/e3325d857

 

I haven't heard from Oxford since I couldn't explain to them how the brake linkages worked on the backward facing brake lever.

 

Paul

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Oxford have back dated my FVV to have CARFLAT. The number plate is black, although the FVV is on a FSR strip.

At 22 years old and the with addition of tops coding I wonder how may repaints (if any) it had undergone. I probably assumed incorrectly that the Oxford Rail model as photographed by Andy Y was meant to be in as new, as in when converted condition.

 

P

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