County of Yorkshire Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 How have you raised the paint finish on the King, John? It looks metallic, lifelike and quite superb! CoY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coach bogie Posted June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 23 hours ago, checkrail said: Couldn't agree more Mike - with all those points. Keep telling myself that one day I'll have a go at removing the top feeds and associated pipework (and the handrails!) on my panniers. I've a battered old pannier body which could be a guinea pig to practise on. Besides getting a smooth finish I guess that the other main difficulty would be removing the bits we don't want without damaging the bits we do! John C. One option I played with a little while back, was to shave away the inside of a Hornby 2721 pannier body and shoehorn he Bachmann drive into it. With added detail it looks the part for me and represents a nice 19th century pannier, which were around in much greater numbers than the 57XX in the early 1930's. Mike Wiltshire 18 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post checkrail Posted June 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 20 hours ago, County of Yorkshire said: How have you raised the paint finish on the King, John? Glad you like it CoY. It started life as King Edward V, and many commented on the weird Hornby green and the very dull flat finish.. After re-naming and renumbering, mine had a few coats of Simoniz Clear Acrylic Lacquer from Halfords, after having masked off all the black areas before applying . This gave the look I was after and also seemed to do wonders for the colour itself - the green looks much better now. I'd originally tried it with Halford's own satin lacquer, but with no discernable difference. It will get some light weathering in due course, but mainly to the underframe, and nothing to detract too much from its ex-works condition. Here are three pics I've just taken to accentuate the shine, the first one in the fiddleyard, where there are lots of lights and reflective loft insulation. John. 20 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Hi John, Is that blue foam under the track on the scenic areas too and, if so, does it deaden sound at all after ballasting? Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted June 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2019 20 hours ago, Coach bogie said: One option I played with a little while back, was to shave away the inside of a Hornby 2721 pannier body and shoehorn he Bachmann drive into it. With added detail it looks the part for me and represents a nice 19th century pannier, which were around in much greater numbers than the 57XX in the early 1930's. You've made a really nice job of that Mike. A great idea, and another item for the ever-growing list of possible future projects. I note that in 1938 there was one of these at NA and three at Laira. There was still one at Exeter in 1946. What extra details did you add to yours? John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted June 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Buhar said: Is that blue foam under the track on the scenic areas too and, if so, does it deaden sound at all after ballasting? It's 4mm thick EVA medium-density foam (whatever that is), bought online from a medical supplier. I chose the royal blue to make it startlingly obvious to non-railway modelling types that this was 'offstage' and not part of the layout proper. Track on the scenic parts of the layout is laid on 3mm cork on top of 2mm medium density black foam, which means that rail heights of the Peco Streamline in the fiddle yard and C & L track on the scenic sections match up perfectly. The foam under the offstage Peco track does give a decent level of noise reduction. John. 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 May I ask about the GW horse box that featured a little while ago? Other than the ends needing to be resprayed black is it considered an accurate model to an exact diagram or alternatively do you know when they were first built? I have to write that I've studied your other items that you've resprayed and love your casual remark that you masked x/y/z before spraying. I've really studied the edges and your masking ability is sublime – would you care to share your choice of materials? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted June 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, Anglian said: May I ask about the GW horse box that featured a little while ago? I'm no expert - can only pass on what I read elsewhere! But the Hornby model is a very accurate representation of a diagram N16 vehicle of 1937, as illustrated in Russell Great Western Coaches Vol. 2 (p.228) and Russell Great Western Coaches Appendix Vol. 2 (figs. 503 & 504). I believe that one or two earlier N (horse box) diagrams are available as Parkside kits. My masking is pretty crude really as I'm impatient and find it time-consuming. I use Tamiya masking tape, cut into lots of little bits and separately applied where necessary, then picked off with tweezers later. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Many thanks for much useful information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Anglian said: Many thanks for much useful information. Outstanding 5 part history of the GWR horseboxes in Great Western Journal 76, 78.79, 81 & 82. Mike Wiltshire Edited June 19, 2019 by Coach bogie 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, checkrail said: You've made a really nice job of that Mike. A great idea, and another item for the ever-growing list of possible future projects. I note that in 1938 there was one of these at NA and three at Laira. There was still one at Exeter in 1946. What extra details did you add to yours? John. On that one I just added lamp brackets, fire iron brackets etc from strip brass or flattened wire. I made the ejectors from wire, wire insulation and expoxy glue Carved to shape). The fillers are ones I found in the bits box. Vac pipes, proper coal. I added spectacle plates front and back from the Wizard (ex Mainly Trains) etch MT226), which makes a huge difference. enough for a whole fleet of engines on one etch. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/mt226/ I converted a second one and discarded the Hornby bunker and made an original Dean type which was still around until the end for many of the earlier tanks. Mike Wiltshire Edited June 19, 2019 by Coach bogie 11 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mawer Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 17/06/2019 at 20:43, checkrail said: Indeed. And many had been painted all-over brown long before the war. I particularly wanted mine to be brown & cream to add some tonal variety to my parcels train, but at some stage I wouldn't mind acquiring another and painting it brown. Who makes these? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Richard Mawer said: Who makes these? A variety of sources, past and present. Check diagrams K14, 15 and 16 . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted June 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, Richard Mawer said: Who makes these? Mine was modified from the ancient plastic Ks kit, which still comes up on eBay from time to time, but there are etched brass kits of them too. See Miss P's post above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mawer Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Thanks guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 18/06/2019 at 19:48, checkrail said: Glad you like it CoY. It started life as King Edward V, and many commented on the weird Hornby green and the very dull flat finish.. After re-naming and renumbering, mine had a few coats of Simoniz Clear Acrylic Lacquer from Halfords, after having masked off all the black areas before applying . This gave the look I was after and also seemed to do wonders for the colour itself - the green looks much better now. I'd originally tried it with Halford's own satin lacquer, but with no discernable difference. It will get some light weathering in due course, but mainly to the underframe, and nothing to detract too much from its ex-works condition. Here are three pics I've just taken to accentuate the shine, the first one in the fiddleyard, where there are lots of lights and reflective loft insulation. John. Have you tried the varnish on anything other than Kings? i just tried it on a Grange (on the logic it will be an easy respray if I’m not happy with the result.) a good job as the paint reacted with the varnish, all bubbled up and had to be wiped off. Now will be sanded down and resprayed. Im just glad it didn’t happen to a lined loco! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 Very sorry to hear this. Hope you get it sorted without too much grief. No, I've not used the Simoniz on anything other than the King. Funnily enough I was thinking of the Grange for my next experiment on same grounds. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just back from visiting daughter & granddaughter in Truro. Had a nice train and boat trip to St Mawes and took the opportunity to snap Truro signal box, on which mine is based. Like mine better! John C. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 6, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, checkrail said: Just back from visiting daughter & granddaughter in Truro. Had a nice train and boat trip to St Mawes and took the opportunity to snap Truro signal box, on which mine is based. Like mine better! John C. Your world is cleaner, better maintained and more organised than the real world! And there's nothing wrong with that - it's your world to do with as you see fit! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted July 6, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think your's is more accurate....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Also had a ride on the South Devon Railway, as I discovered the Dart Valley Railway is now called. (It's nearly 50 years since I was last there.) 6412 looked very smart. John C. Edited July 6, 2019 by checkrail punctuation 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2019 … as did the stations and sundry bits of stock on display. John C. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post checkrail Posted July 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2019 But the highlight for me was travelling in a 1937 C74 excursion stock open third, one of the two GWR coaches in the set along with the inevitable BR Mark 1s. (The other, as many of you will know, is a 1938 D127 van third.) (These coaches could do with some black & gold lining.) Love the mirror! John C. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted July 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2019 You're really getting me into the holiday mood! Only today we were planning our holiday journey to Cornwall and decided to break the journey at Buckfastleigh. Of course that will also mean crossing the Tamar at Plymouth - the proper way into The Duchy. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 7, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2019 On the Dartmouth Steam Railway last week I marvelled at the gloss finish on this USA S160 2-8-0. Then I saw the fireman giving it a wipe at Paignton, using the stuff in the close-up photo. Don't try this at home! Unfortunately the nearest thing I saw to a GWR engine that day was this. I hope, in the long term, that it's not a case of RIP (rust in pieces). John C. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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