Mike Boucher Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Sweet! Very sweet indeed! Not for me though as I gave US 0 scale an expensive try a few years ago and that convinced me that I am thoroughly wedded to H0 scale. Plus, I know no-one else personally who does S scale. But, it is awfully nice though. Watch out for those import duties. John. 5 days left, and already has 30 bids. Up to $310. I'm not in S scale, but I'm tempted to watch this just to see how high it goes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) It will either go to someone who is a dedicated S-scaler, who REALLY wants it, or to a collector with plenty of spare pocket-money, looking for somewhere to spend it and add it to his showcase. Edited May 14, 2018 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2018 There are no import duties (as has been pointed out consistently at various times) but there is VAT - which is calculated not just on the item but also the shipping costs. And then there's the "handling fee". I usually budget on converting the dollar sale price into pounds, but usually it is a little less than that. At the moment, probably 90% of the USD cost expressed as (not in!) GBP, i.e. $400 is about £360. If the price goes more than $50 much above that, then the buyer is an idiot. They are excellent models: I have one, and have had two others in the past (so 1.7% of total production has passed through my hands - 180 were made). Good fidelity, and a very smooth drive. £400 may seem a lot for an engine, but these have bags of character and won't let you down, and other than maybe another 44 tonner, or another switcher (the plastic SW1 and SW8/9/1200 and NW2 are usually about half the price) then who needs more for a short line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) North American outline brass is in some ways a sub-hobby in itself with quite a following of enthusiasts. At one time NA brass was part of the mainstream hobby in the US and Canada, the top end of the scale admittedly but companies like PFM published catalogues, imported models in significant numbers and they were sold via regular dealers. At a time of Athearn blue box, Mantua, Bachmann etc (and even Rivarossi) brass was sort of an equivalent to high end super detailed European HO. Then in the 80's prices went North as the brass importers cranked up detail, more models were factory finished etc and at the same time companies like Kato were pushing plastic RTR standards up. By the late 90's brass had gone from being expensive but still part of the mainstream hobby to being an expensive niche within a niche for those with deep pockets, although for NA steam enthusiasts brass is often the only route other than scratch building. By the 00's production runs of brass had become trivial, barely into two figures. However, there is a lot of beautiful classic brass available and although prices seem to have firmed up a bit recently you can pick up some lovely pieces at sensible prices. I always keep an eye open whenever a new HO super detail diesel is released as what tends to happen is a few brass items appear on the market as some turn to the newer plastic release causing a dip in prices which then often recovers after a few months. Edited May 14, 2018 by jjb1970 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfsboy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Most earlier brass 1960's - 90's isnt fit for DCC unless motors are replaced and isolated and also holes drilled for lights and sound . Often a decent gearbox is needed. especially 0n 60's - 70's .i usually fit NWSL . Most brass looks good but sometimes isnt accurate to the last detail unless you get very pricey modern . Especially for steam its often the only show in town . At least when you pickup brass it doesnt have parts falling off and breaking like plastic ones so give me brass anyday . Early brass diesels like KTM often run badly and frankly a set of Stanton /spud type drives from NWSL is the best cure and leaves the body clear for all sorts of DCC gubbins. hope it helps . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2018 Funnily enough I find a lot of older brass with open frame motors to be pretty much bomb proof when it comes to running and far less problematic than later brass, although it is true that those models aren't DCC friendly. As detail levels went up it became more of a problem to run brass kettles especially reliably as there was so much potential to get short circuits. I find brass diesels can be hit and miss, despite often having high end "brand name" motors (e.g. Canon, Buhler, Faulhaber) and trick compensated chassis running can be variable and of course there is the infamous Ajin universal joint issue. Beautiful models though. This may be just me, but I found that after getting a taste for Overland, Tenshodo etc brass that regular RTR just isn't the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBrad Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Looking at that, maybe S is above the price i want to pay lol, maybe 0 would be a better bet, but the crudeness of 3 rail items puts me off. I want to dabble in something bigger than HO as a side project, as much as I love it, I just like the physical presence of the larger scales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2018 You do get US outline two rail O, although it is a minor interest compared to three rail. Atlas do some nice models, and some brass O is remarkably good (but expensive). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2018 S Scale has 2.5 times the volume, and hence potential mass, as H0. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Boucher Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Looking at that, maybe S is above the price i want to pay lol, maybe 0 would be a better bet, but the crudeness of 3 rail items puts me off. I want to dabble in something bigger than HO as a side project, as much as I love it, I just like the physical presence of the larger scales You do get US outline two rail O, although it is a minor interest compared to three rail. Atlas do some nice models, and some brass O is remarkably good (but expensive). FYI - Rich Yoder made a very nice 44 tonner in 2 rail O scale brass. Not exactly the easiest model to find for sale, but they are out there. He also made a 70 tonner which is equally nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 New HO manufacturer, first announcement coming soon. Blaine Hadfield left Exactrail last year. https://arrowheadmodels.com/blogs/news/introducing-arrowhead-models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 For those wanting to know more about Arrowhead Models the Modelers Life Podcast has done an interview with Blaine discussing his new company. Key item from the podcast first item will be announced late June / early July. Main website https://www.amodelerslife.com/ iTunes link https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/a-modelerslife/id905596672?mt=2 non-iTunes link http://modelerslife.libsyn.com/arrowhead-models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) A special announcement from Athearn on Memorial Day. They are doing a run of their upcoming Norfolk Southern SD60E rebuilds as loco #6920 in the special "Honouring our Veterans" paint scheme. PDF here : http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/052518/01_GEN_SD60E_052518.pdf Edit : Now available to pre-order at Model Junction. I'm sure other retailers are also available. Usual disclaimers apply. Edited June 5, 2018 by Supaned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 From an Ad in the latest MRH, Bachmann has a new run of their HO scale 2-8-0 Consolidation coming with DCC Sound. Very, very interested in the Southern version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Grandt Line and San Juan have both been bought up. Doug Junda and Robert Stears have purchased the two companies and will continue with operations. They already operate Cimarron Works and the Leadville shops in conjunction with Bill Meredith. I understand they have also picked up San Juan Decals as well. Edited May 30, 2018 by shortliner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 That’s good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Grandt Line and San Juan have both been bought up. Doug Junda and Robert Stears have purchased the two companies and will continue with operations. They already operate Cimarron Works and the Leadville shops in conjunction with Bill Meredith. I understand they have also picked up San Juan Decals as well. Could you possibly divulge your source for this information. I have yet to see any reference to the sale on any North American boards. Tichy is working overtime to ensure all the types of HO window from Grandt Line remain available. Grandt Lines factory is only about 4 miles from where I live so I am very interested in their plans. The only thing on their website is: " Negotiations for the sale of our molds and tooling is in the works…" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikjd Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Could you possibly divulge your source for this information. I have yet to see any reference to the sale on any North American boards. Tichy is working overtime to ensure all the types of HO window from Grandt Line remain available. Grandt Lines factory is only about 4 miles from where I live so I am very interested in their plans. The only thing on their website is: " Negotiations for the sale of our molds and tooling is in the works…" A fbook entry from Dan Dawdy of O/S Scale Resource on 28 May at 21.27: "Great news about Grandt Line and San Juan. Doug Junda stopped by our Model Railroad Resource table at O/S Scale West and said that he and Robert Stears have purchased Grandt Line & part of San Juan. More later!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Rapido newsletter 101 is out http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Rapido-News-101---More-scintillating-information-.html?soid=1101318906379&aid=9iLSsdMEIao 2 main highlights Pictures of the factory painted pre-production sample of the Royal Hudson, order deadline is July 1st 2018 Next product announcement is June 25 at the Rapido dealer open house and will consist of HO and N, both Canadian and American models. Also a factory update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Scaletrains has announced a 4180cf Airslide Covered Hopper https://www.scaletrains.com/collections/rivet-counter-4180cf-airslide-covered-hopper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Scaletrains has announced a 4180cf Airslide Covered Hopper https://www.scaletrains.com/collections/rivet-counter-4180cf-airslide-covered-hopper Do you know if the prices shown in bold are pre-order prices, with the 'crossed-out' prices being prices after release? If not, what are those two prices? I've tried to find out from the website, but failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) The bold is the selling price, the crossed out is the Recommended Retail Price is my understanding. Edited June 4, 2018 by mdvle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) This was due to be released at the same time as the Operator 4180cf and 4655cf hoppers, but Tangent announced theirs at the same time (and Tangent release at the same time as announcing) so Scaletrains agreed not to release their competing model, the Rivet Counter version until Tangent had time to make their sales. SC do have a couple of detail versions that Tangent haven’t done Edit : Some more info on which protoypes the Scaletrains and Tangent (and Walthers) cars represent http://atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/post/110056 Edited June 7, 2018 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Rapido Trains made 4 announcements on Facebook Live today. (also, order deadline for the Royal Hudson has been changed to August 13th 2018 to allow for a second decorated sample to arrive from the factory and hopefully a YouTube video). 1st Alco RS11 - many variations tooled including multiple different air filter arrangements, metal / canvas sunshades, SP light package and expansion tank on roof, lit up control stands in cab, Pennsy train phone where appropriate. Alco demonstrator, Pennsy, Penn Central, Conrail, New Haven, NW (2 versions), LV http://rapidotrains.com/ho-alco-rs11-launch.html US$225DC/$335DCC-Sound Order deadline Oct 15 2018, delivery est. mid 2019 2nd MLW RS18 - CN (3100s and 3800s) and CN Tempo version (no HEP, HEP version only available in Tempo Box set), CP versions. http://rapidotrains.com/ho-mlw-rs18-launch.html US$225DC/$335DCC-Sound Order deadline Oct 15 2018, delivery est. mid 2019 3rd Tempo Coaches - Coach, club car, cafe bar lounge. Diecast frame, detailed trucks. Only way to get CN or VIA club car and cafe bar lounge is in the box set including the RS18 with HEP. http://rapidotrains.com/ho-tempo-launch.html [Rio Grande Ski Train will come in the future when they do an appropriate F40 to go with the Ski Train Tempo cars] Box Set - loco, club, cafe, coach - US$530DC/$650DCC-Sound CN or VIA coaches US$110 (also undec. coaches) Algoma Central/Agawa Canyon Cars -US$110, production contingent on sufficient pre-orders Finally, for N scale The Dash8-40CM. This is a all new design from the drawings, not a scaled down version of the HO model. Fully detailed including working rock lights on the BC Rail version. http://rapidotrains.com/n-dash-8-40cm-launch.html US$149.95DC/$259.95DCC-Sound Order deadline Oct. 15 2018, delivery mid 2019 Edited June 25, 2018 by mdvle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted June 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2018 I quite fancy at least one of those N Scale Dash 8-40CM. Does anyone know do any UK based retailers who are taking orders for them? Rails of sheffield do have some Rapidi items in their site but not these. I have emailed them a week ago but as yet no reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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