Iron Horse Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) So the cliffs/hills are obviously inspired by my holidays as a kid to Teignmouth but as to their construction I must thank Richard and his Everard Junction videos, I have to admit I didn't have a clue where to start with scenery stuff. My Dad must have laid loads of baseboards when I was a kid in the loft but I think I only ever got as far as laying tracks and playing trains!!!!!! Views then showing the development behind the depot Then I remembered trunking and cables The track just in front of the signal box had to be relaid as I had tightened it just a tad beyond a 2nd radius and my JIA's didn't like it so that had to be corrected, I had mucked up the mechanism of the point next to it as well so redoing all of that in one go was a bonus. Now my question to you all (I think I know the answer), depot fuel storage tanks in picture 3, built from a kit which I'm quite pleased with, fit in reasonably with the layout but to me look too small next to the TTA's delivering fuel next to them, tanks in picture 6, far more realistic size wise but to me too close to main line..........so which one do I compromise with or do I go down the scratch building route as per the fueling facility at Peak Forest so beautifully crafted by Marcus on his Peak Dale Wood layout and make out a lot of the tanks are underground??????? Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Great set of photos like what you have done with the hills and i think tanks look best in last photos . nice work pal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Evening Chaps, So in case you wondered the spoil wagons turned out like this And the first 50 I ever had for haulage was 50002 back in 1982 and by all accounts it looked something like this.......well......ish!!!!!!! Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The class 50 looks ace mate great work pal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) So this week I made a change over.......I've gone all retro Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 The Hovers look great mate . Looks really good pal . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) So another catch up I guess. I started thinking about a Chacewater cement terminal idea in the corner as I developed the track going into the fiddle yard in the summer of 2015. This first view shows some very tentative planning I think I made some refinements And then got some cork and track laid down With this being a general overall view of the results I started trying to plan a sort of hidden entrance that could work with the existing backscene (not perfect but I felt it was reasonable from most viewing angles) Concrete and ballast added Backscenes removed and outer contours added with a rough covering Next some trees and statics grass (not really getting to grips with the later) Some hedges made from kitchen scourers (a bit more foliage required and far from perfect but I'm hoping I might be able to fettle these in position........any advice welcome, even if it is rip it up and start again) And then I guess a bit of a distant overview.....must take some more pics but obviously loads more detailing, concrete weathering, discharge gear, gates, foliage still to be added but I'm hoping at least a starting point to be working with Thanks for popping by and looking Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Good afternoon, well I've not been up to too much recently but I have been sorting out some long term issues that I just never got round to sorting out. Firstly I have made the main platform and reception siding just a few mm's longer.......just enables me to run a basic HST formation if I desire........well only just!!!!! Then I made a wall to go at the end of the sidings to separate them from the pathway to the quayside Added some details to the runround pointwork including having to fettle the edge of the platform to give some clearance to my class 50 buffers during manoeuvres And while I was soldering my droppers to the bus underneath I thought I may as well add a couple of platform lights as well.......upside down soldering is best done in small doses!!!!!!! And this one just because I'm enjoying my retro blue for a change 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted October 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2016 So far so good, keep it up ! Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Nice looking layout, really like the detail and the techniques you are using. Shall be following with interest. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Hi Adrian, the layout is shaping up nicely and I do like your retro blue photos, my photographic visits to the west were late 1970s and early 1980s in the blue era. Although I found this thread when you first started it I seem to have lost touch somehow, so have just been catching up. I like how the cement terminal is turning out, and I realise it was the 12th October when you posted the photos but I think the screen of trees to hide the entrance to the yard looks good, and probably even better from a low viewing angle. cheers Kevin Edited October 27, 2016 by Rivercider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 So far so good, keep it up ! Cheers, Phil. Thanks Phil, exhibition at Crewe this weekend by any chance???? Nice looking layout, really like the detail and the techniques you are using. Shall be following with interest. Paul That's very kind of you Paul, but although most of the design and layout ideas are my own (with input from my friend Phil above) in terms of techniques of how to achieve things I am really pinching every idea either from here, you tube or Richard at Trident Trains Hi Adrian, the layout is shaping up nicely and I do like your retro blue photos, my photographic visits to the west were late 1970s and early 1980s in the blue era. Although I found this thread when you first started it I seem to have lost touch somehow, so have just been catching up. I like how the cement terminal is turning out, and I realise it was the 12th October when you posted the photos but I think the screen of trees to hide the entrance to the yard looks good, and probably even better from a low viewing angle. cheers Kevin Thanks Kevin, your photo threads have been a great help. I quite like the cement terminal although I really have got to research the discharge gear a lot more yet and even the silo may get scratch built, the Hornby one was cheap and helped me get a sense of scale at the outset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) So I did mention this a few posts ago, over the last 6 months I have been slowly detailing and weathering 50032 in it's departmental state before it's demise. I can remember to this day having it on The Taw And Tor Retour in 1990 top and tailed with 50031 in south Devon. This is probably my most extreme attempt of weathering to date and although far from perfect I think it has captured what I wanted......well just about. Thanks for looking Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 So I did mention this a few posts ago, over the last 6 months I have been slowly detailing and weathering 50032 in it's departmental state before it's demise. I can remember to this day having it on The Taw And Tor Retour in 1990 top and tailed with 50031 in south Devon. This is probably my most extreme attempt of weathering to date and although far from perfect I think it has captured what I wanted......well just about. 50032 1.jpg 50032 2.jpg 50032 3.jpg Thanks for looking Great job weathering mate this was the first class 50 i saw up here in chesterfield and i thought they just looked amazing. Just enough grim on the body side and bogies and oil on the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) So progress recently seems slow but I have been doing a few things as well as riding around on the trains on local day rangers Firstly I didn't want to leave my discharge building in Halfords grey primer as I felt it was too dark compared to what I've seen at Burngullow and Fowey. Then as I was walking around B&Q I found a Plasticote aerosol that I thought was a bit better. It's not a perfect match but it is a colour that I have seen many times on that type of cladding, so few light coats later.......and a bit of work on the PC to make a sign And then I added a contrast colour on the gutters and down pipes Now, here's the important bit guys how do I weather it? I'm struggling with weathering in general whether it be rolling stock or buildings as you'll see from the wall below so please I'm really happy with my unit above and I want my weathering to enhance it not destroy it........all advice welcome Now back to the wall, I gave it some light grey coats and then picked out a few darker bricks Then I tried some dirty acrylic washes, paint on wipe off........and ended up with this. Much darker than I wanted and no definition left at all So I tried recreating the base colours again and have another go, this being the result It's not bad but it's not quite what I wanted, am I using the acrylic washes right as I do find them drying out pretty quickly, I'm using Tamiya paints do they dry out quicker than Humbrol or am I just going about this the wrong way? I'm all ears........ On the plus side I am quite pleased with my first painted seagull Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Hi Adrian Layouts coming on in leaps and bounds mate. Just keep persevering with the washes and eventually it will build up in the detail in the stone. Tips are, use a ratio of 1 part paint to 10 part water. When you remove the paint use kitchen roll and dab don't wipe. You should then end up with something like this hopefully. Go to Al's Bakewell thread where he shows it step by step. Unfortunately I cant remember what page its on but, I think its about page 30 or so. Cheers Marcus Edited November 19, 2016 by Marcus 37 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2016 If it were me, I'd paint the whole wall a solid colour, then throw (not literally) a wash at it and then dry brush it with various random colours......or alternatively, you can follow Al's excellent method mentioned above by Marcus. I'm only just getting to grips with the process so I take advice from everyone and then stick all of their ideas together.....one of them is bound to work! If you want to go really top notch, Mr Allan Downes has an excellent tutorial in the 'Anything you can do' thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Thanks gents for your help, to be fair Marcus I had read in your thread about dabbing and not wiping and did do that.......sadly like I said earlier in the topic sometimes I get a little blasé with words and lack mentioning the detail.......note to oneself there!!!! I love the effects you and Al manage to get, I will persevere but it doesn't seem to be coming just yet but I'm sure it will. So as it was Mike, I continued to use all of the things I've read and watched and after some extra work came up with this. Stones I'm happy with but the mortar should be darker for what I'm trying to copy, but add a dark wash and the stones go too dark as well so it's staying as it is. Then I though I need to add the fence, something that I really wasn't looking forward to but with some Ratio GWR fencing and a sharp knife I fabricated this little assembly and actually really enjoyed creating it.......... I then loosely added a sloping pavement to connect the station area to the docks (that are accessible to the public) to run behind the wall just to see how it was all coming together I then added a coat of matt varnish to take the shine off the fence and a few areas where some glue could be seen and as I was on a roll I painted another seagull and attached him in position Then during a small play 31 268 arrived on the tanks from Fawley And then the bashers all came out for 47001 on the coffins forming the 17:30 Teignquay - Paddington Thanks for looking Edited October 28, 2022 by Iron Horse Replacing Images 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hi Adrian, Your layout is coming on really well. The Seagull is awesome! Cheers Trev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Thanks Trev, that's very kind of you although nowhere near your league I did however pick up some random things at Warley so hopefully I can add a few details over the coming months that might help bring a bit of life to the layout.....well fingers crossed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2016 Thanks Trev, that's very kind of you although nowhere near your league I did however pick up some random things at Warley so hopefully I can add a few details over the coming months that might help bring a bit of life to the layout.....well fingers crossed Was one of those random things, finding out how to do yellow stuff? Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hi Adrian The wall looks really good now. That's a really neat job with the railings. Looks very good indeed. Seeing the walling up close try putting on neat paint of the colour you want for the mortar, leave a couple of minutes, then wipe off the paint on the surface of the stones. Now I can see it close up the mortar joints are quite indented. Let it dry then try the washes again on top. Liking the BR Blue traction. Cheers Marcus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted December 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2016 Was one of those random things, finding out how to do yellow stuff? Cheers, Mick Don't do it Ade, you'll never be the same again !!!! Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Hi Adrian The wall looks really good now. That's a really neat job with the railings. Looks very good indeed. Seeing the walling up close try putting on neat paint of the colour you want for the mortar, leave a couple of minutes, then wipe off the paint on the surface of the stones. Now I can see it close up the mortar joints are quite indented. Let it dry then try the washes again on top. Liking the BR Blue traction. Cheers Marcus Thanks Marcus, although I'm now left with a dilemma and a question. The question is the easy bit, do you use acrylic paint for just about all your structure painting and weathering? My dilemma is, I decided to myself I'll never get that mortar/stone colouring any better and I stuck it down last night......... So with decisions to make there, I may go back to my discharge building, how would you go about weathering that dusty shed all ideas welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Was one of those random things, finding out how to do yellow stuff? Cheers, Mick One day..... but can't you see, I've gone all retro now That aside I did get some yellow stuff at Warley..............flowers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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