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First thing that struck me, no nose seam.

 

Neil

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First thing that struck me, no nose seam.

 

Neil

 

I think it's customary...if it's Heljan, it's bound to have a huge/minor but noticeable error.

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Info elsewhere states nose seams are on the CAD and will be on the next sample.

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Wow that will be some lump of a model that ..... as stated above no nose seam, they must have used the same designer that did the first Bachmann releases in 4mm  :nono:

 

Craig.

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First thing I thought was thank god it's not out till 2017 pocket money talking a big hit this year already! Overall and I think you have to look at Heljan models like that, is that it's not bad. I agree with the rebate issue just been comparing it to the Bachmann one, can't see any issues with the nose but maybe there is. It is going to be one hell of a chunk I agree. For me class 25 no, class 45 yes.

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I would like to see a few more pictures (Brian?) but overall looks pretty nice to me - subject to the things others have pointed out above.

 

With all those wheels lets hope it negotiates pointwork better than their class 40 - getting the back to backs correct would be a good starting point in that respect!

 

Hopefully Pete Harvey or some one can also do an etch to cover the footsteps/other grille on the bodyside for us later BR blue modellers.

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The 40 fault wasn't an issue with the back to backs, it was the pony wheel which had so much movement that it derailed the bogie, we sussed it out on a layout one afternoon. The fix was a doddle 4 pieces of plastic tube sleeved over the pony axles, easy to do but took longer to suss out why it was doing it. I agree more pics but would say this one is a winner. What next a Class 56? I've heard rumours!

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Wow that will be some lump of a model that ..... as stated above no nose seam, they must have used the same designer that did the first Bachmann releases in 4mm  :nono:

 

Craig.

i can assure you they didn't !

 

They came to the GWR to measure & photograph the nose ends on 45149 last october.Which for the record are odd .No1 end is a full center panel & No2 center split..

 

 

how they missed the seam god knows.

 

maybe come the finished article it will be replicated with a painted line.

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maybe come the finished article it will be replicated with a painted line.

 

Let's hope not!

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Proovided they address the nose seem and the side grill issue this should be a terrific release, the rest of it looks pretty excellent to me.

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Nose seams are on the CAD so will definitely be on the next sample I can assure you. And the small triangular grill will stick out the same as the main grill, trust me.

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Nose seams are on the CAD so will definitely be on the next sample I can assure you. And the small triangular grill will stick out the same as the main grill, trust me.

 

That's fantastic, Brian!  I've resisted every O diesel so far, but the sheer heft of the BR-Sulzer Type 4 is really captivating, and I can see myself saving up for one.  

 

60 LYTHAM ST ANNES in BFYE post-refurb 1968 condition, as she brought down the curtain on the Waverley route....

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Some mixes of 1960s and 1970s peaks here too.

The nose side grille is the later version without the central dividing strut more appropriate to 1960s machines. The EP also has non-plated over bodyside footsteps and open filler hatch which was plated over on many locos. The triangular and small bodyside grilles were also plated over depending on prototype. Peak details are quite a minefield if you are modelling a particular machine in a given timeframe. I have the lists of these mods somewhere on the hard disk.

Is the number 1 end central headcode and not centre-split? Headcodes were again a great source of variety, certainly in the mid 1970s before the flush fronts were done.

I passed on the Western but could easily add a peak if the errors are sorted as Brian has suggested.

Neil

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First thing that struck me, no nose seam.

 

Neil

me to...I hope it not a early Bachmann type mistake as it will look worse once the yellow painted on.

 

B

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Brenn read what I said 3 posts up.

 

The model will include etched metal covers for the boiler steps, side vent and roof filler hatches. There will be a plastic triangular grill for the body side and a plastic blank to replace it if required.

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The headcode panels are also wrong, the centre splits where are inset in to the nose ends.

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Brenn read what I said 3 posts up.

 

The model will include etched metal covers for the boiler steps, side vent and roof filler hatches. There will be a plastic triangular grill for the body side and a plastic blank to replace it if required.

That is good Brian if they provide these things - excellent

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The headcode panels are also wrong, the centre splits where are inset in to the nose ends.

I noticed the 'glass' was sitting a fraction flush in the photo - it does need moving back a fraction but this is only the first sample or it might not have been pressed fully home? - could easily be corrected by the modeller but hopefully Heljan adjust it a fraction. I'm sure Brian will be on the case!

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Here are the etched covers for the boiler area. On the back of the D blanks there is a thicker bit to locate it and there is a recessed edge on the roof hatches to locate that. Pictures of the cabs and desk as well. There is also a tail light on/off switch under the nose number two end. These will all be colour matched to there respective liveries.

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Also missing the segmental bearing grease points on the body side (circular holes) below the radiator grills and below the boiler room grills 45/0s, 45/1s they were plated over. Vacuum pipe and strainer and the NON return valve are also quite prominent on the prototype at No2 end drivers side are these going to be moddelled?

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Set to become my sole foray into O, I reckon!  Lovely!

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Also missing the segmental bearing grease points on the body side (circular holes) below the radiator grills and below the boiler room grills (these would apply to non refurbished 45s only) as they were plated over after that. Vacuum pipe and strainer and the NON return valve are also quite prominent on the prototype at No2 end drivers side are these going to be moddelled?

 

As Heljan will only do one body molding it was decided to do it as a blue era loco to be correct for at least one body style. The pipe you are talking about was included but it got knocked off and I had forgot to put it back on. I will be painting this in blue in a week or two but undecided what to do about the lack of a seam. Do I try and scribe one on or just draw one on after painting?

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