Kim Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I started a thread a while ago asking if anyone had the instructions sheets for a particular kit. In one of the replies. there was a comment about a "database" of old instruction sheets and it started me thinking. I do a similar thing for instruction books for Pentax cameras although it has grown to include a few other things as well. So I wondered if there would be much interest if I added a model railway section . Everything still very much in the design stage but I wanted to try and gain some idea if it would be of interest. So far I have scanned 7 sets from kits I have had or have. There are quite a few more to do and a proper page will have to be done on the website.However in the meantime the "main" website is at www.pentax-manuals.com So far I have done the following together with the links to get to them: K's Ivatt 2-6-T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/ivatt_2mt.pdf K's Fowler 2-6-2T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/k_fowler_3p.pdf Jidenco LMS 7F http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/jidenco_7f.pdf Bristol Models Jubilee http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/bristol_jubilee.pdf DJH Duke Of Gloucester http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/djh_duke.pdf LRM Midland 2F http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/lrm_2f.pdf Craftsman Midland 1P 0-4-4T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/craftsman_midland1p.pdf I would welcome any feedback on whether it is worth continuing and if it is, I would also welcome the opportunity to upload other sets for models if people want to send them to me. Kim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I've scanned a fair few Finney and Mitchell instruction sets, but arguably you don't really need to do this for Finney anymore because Brassmasters made a point of making them freely accessible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2016 I've scanned a fair few Finney and Mitchell instruction sets, but arguably you don't really need to do this for Finney anymore because Brassmasters made a point of making them freely accessible. Until they close down for any reason! Not meaning anything specific about Brassmasters, but you have often commented about various kit manufacturers, having been purchased by new owners, then never seeing the light of day again, due to the new owner not realising what was required! Needs a small group to maintain a database (of anything) so that it doesn't fall in a heap, if someone gets hit by the proverbial bus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 .... you have often commented about various kit manufacturers, having been purchased by new owners, then never seeing the light of day again, due to the new owner not realising what was required! In that case, there's a lot of scanning to be done!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 In that case, there's a lot of scanning to be done!!! Not really. No need to scan them. Just download them and store them if needed in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted July 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2016 A lot of suppliers will give you the instructions as a PDF. It would save a lot of work to start a collection like this by seeing who has any they would care to share they will often be better quality than a scan of a used document. Mark J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I will just restate a comment I made previously. The Gauge 0 Guild has a similar scheme in mind. However, there are matters of intellectual property to consider, particularly if instructions are marked as copyright. My understanding is that the Guild may be considering obtaining a professional view on the possible implications of posting online. Meanwhile I would caution against making generally available any information without the express permission of the owner of that information. I have no legal training and am in no position to offer a professional view, I merely suggest that people are cautious and preferably get a learned opinion on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I started a thread a while ago asking if anyone had the instructions sheets for a particular kit. In one of the replies. there was a comment about a "database" of old instruction sheets and it started me thinking. I do a similar thing for instruction books for Pentax cameras although it has grown to include a few other things as well. So I wondered if there would be much interest if I added a model railway section . Everything still very much in the design stage but I wanted to try and gain some idea if it would be of interest. So far I have scanned 7 sets from kits I have had or have. There are quite a few more to do and a proper page will have to be done on the website. However in the meantime the "main" website is at www.pentax-manuals.com So far I have done the following together with the links to get to them: K's Ivatt 2-6-T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/ivatt_2mt.pdf K's Fowler 2-6-2T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/k_fowler_3p.pdf Jidenco LMS 7F http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/jidenco_7f.pdf Bristol Models Jubilee http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/bristol_jubilee.pdf DJH Duke Of Gloucester http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/djh_duke.pdf LRM Midland 2F http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/lrm_2f.pdf Craftsman Midland 1P 0-4-4T http://pentax-manuals.com/trains/craftsman_midland1p.pdf I would welcome any feedback on whether it is worth continuing and if it is, I would also welcome the opportunity to upload other sets for models if people want to send them to me. Kim I also started doing this a while back, but as my collection is mostly plastic rolling stock kits I'm not sure how much use they are to anyone! Personally I think a database of instructions for kits would be very useful indeed, I've made plenty of use of you Pentax manuals in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted July 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2016 Maybe the Guild could approach suppliers and ask if they wold like to place said instructions in a depository online somewhere attached to the guild. It's a 2 way thing suppliers would benefit from the sales by offering said instructions up for people to view. A lot of beginners are put off by the fact they can't see how complex a kit is this would benefit their sales I'm sure... Mark J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 ....suppliers would benefit from the sales by offering said instructions up for people to view. A lot of beginners are put off by the fact they can't see how complex a kit is this would benefit their sales I'm sure... Yes, but sometimes instructions are so terse as to give no clue as to how easy or difficult a kit is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Maybe the Guild could approach suppliers and ask if they wold like to place said instructions in a depository online Some suppliers would be too embarrassed to call the short composition of words "instructions" and in some cases it certainly would not sell them any kits. Some kit instructions are better built without them as they appear to have nothing to do with the design of the kit and emanate from fiction more than the trial build. Come to think of it some kits are even worse than the instructions. Fortunately there are some really good kits and well tested instructions with great exploded diagrams and photos from the test build. Anyway, just how many of us actually follow instructions to the letter? Don't we all think that we know a better way to build their kits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted July 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2016 That's exactly my point it would certainly sort the chaff from the wheat... Rubbish instructions/lack of sales might be the required catalyst to encourage suppliers to do something about them... It might also encourage them to take inspiration from how others create quality instructions and follow their lead. Mark J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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