Signaller69's projects

[saxokid]

16 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Thanks for your kind words James. The Dapol model has some superb detail fittings and a lovely finish, which are far finer than mine, but I'm happy enough that mine can stand alongside the Dapol one and not be TOO shown up. It is likely one or 2 will be added to the fleet I have to admit. But here are a couple more cruel comparison photos.

The Hornby Sherwood Green will probably be getting a repaint at some point, being more apple green by comparison to the Dapol colours which I think look much better. 

Nice updates Martyn...

[brylonscamel]

23 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

The Dapol model has some superb detail fittings and a lovely finish, which are far finer than mine, but I'm happy enough that mine can stand alongside the Dapol one and not be TOO shown up.

Ooh this is a great set of photos - full credit to you that yours stand up so well alongside the Dapol version. They might have you beat on the crispness of some of the details but yours looks every bit the Class 29 in these photos.

I must admit to abandoning my workbench 29s once I saw the Dapol one was closer to production.

Did you get to give the Dapol sample a spin on Crinan?

PS your buffers look much more convincing 

[Signaller69]

9 hours ago, brylonscamel said:

Ooh this is a great set of photos - full credit to you that yours stand up so well alongside the Dapol version. They might have you beat on the crispness of some of the details but yours looks every bit the Class 29 in these photos.

I must admit to abandoning my workbench 29s once I saw the Dapol one was closer to production.

Did you get to give the Dapol sample a spin on Crinan?

PS your buffers look much more convincing 

Thanks Bry, don't tell anyone but the Dapol samples were unmotorised.....they had NEM boxes, but all the same I thought towing one dead might not be perceived as being very positive, particularly in view of the kind loan for photos and that Dapol's stand was opposite my layout....

[brylonscamel]

1 hour ago, Signaller69 said:

Thanks Bry, don't tell anyone but the Dapol samples were unmotorised.....they had NEM boxes, but all the same I thought towing one dead might not be perceived as being very positive, particularly in view of the kind loan for photos and that Dapol's stand was opposite my layout....

 

I'll keep it a secret between the two of us!

 

PS dragging it about dead-in-train might have been a realistic scenario given the reputation of the class.

 

Although I don't know if the reputation lay largely with the 21s?

 

 

[Signaller69]

4 hours ago, brylonscamel said:

 

I'll keep it a secret between the two of us!

 

PS dragging it about dead-in-train might have been a realistic scenario given the reputation of the class.

 

Although I don't know if the reputation lay largely with the 21s?

 

 

From what I've read I think you are correct regarding the 21's. Once funding for the rest of the conversions was pulled due to escalating costs, the low number of 29s, coupled with a lower overall number of type 2 locos required on ScR, made them easy "non standard" targets sadly, but the 29s do appear to have been a little more reliable overall than the 21s had been.

 

Crews allegedly seem to have preferred the draught free cabs and ride quality over the BRCW type 2's.

 

My third 29 conversion is unpowered for "dead" use, but gets little use on Crinan due to the rigmarole of running round and uncoupling magnet positions, so may actually get a power unit in due course!

 

 

 

[Signaller69]

A trip to Rhuddlan Models this morning, for some paint and plasticard, saw a couple of unexpected secondhand DMU purchases; a slightly damaged Bachmann green Class 105 and a very tidy Hornby green 110; let's just say that at the price, they weren't staying there....

The 105 needs some glazing refitting, plus buffers and gangways to effect repair, but will probably be converted to the later external exhausts, possibly with a conversion to power & trailer rather than power twin, and maybe a repaint into blue to suit 1970ish.

 

This led to a review of the fleet.....

The "new" Hornby 110 will likely become a cheap and easy 3 car Class 107 using ends grafted below the cantrail from my spare Lima 117 bodies. Not quite 100% accurate but with some work on the body profile, close enough for my needs.

 

The blue 2 car 110 will probably end up as a 103, possibly using Worsley sides, with a spare centre car chassis to give a Power / Trailer combo.

 

Crinan's faithful Hornby 101 needs a new final drive gear and will be reduced to a 2 car power/trailer. The centre car will be mothballed with the chassis going to the Driving Trailer Composite, gangways to the 105, and bogies to another 126 Trailer coach. This will also give me a spare power car dummy chassis to cannibalize. The spare Hornby 110 chassis gives ideas of a Met-Cam 111 with the Rolls Royce engines, but this may be for another day......

[leopardml2341]

I'd be interested to see the 103 conversion; I've been thinking of it for a while, and doing it the same way. Do you have the sides already?

[Clive Mortimore]

2 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

A trip to Rhuddlan Models this morning, for some paint and plasticard, saw a couple of unexpected secondhand DMU purchases; a slightly damaged Bachmann green Class 105 and a very tidy Hornby green 110; let's just say that at the price, they weren't staying there....

The 105 needs some glazing refitting, plus buffers and gangways to effect repair, but will probably be converted to the later external exhausts, possibly with a conversion to power & trailer rather than power twin, and maybe a repaint into blue to suit 1970ish.

 

This led to a review of the fleet.....

The "new" Hornby 110 will likely become a cheap and easy 3 car Class 107 using ends grafted below the cantrail from my spare Lima 117 bodies. Not quite 100% accurate but with some work on the body profile, close enough for my needs.

 

The blue 2 car 110 will probably end up as a 103, possibly using Worsley sides, with a spare centre car chassis to give a Power / Trailer combo.

 

Crinan's faithful Hornby 101 needs a new final drive gear and will be reduced to a 2 car power/trailer. The centre car will be mothballed with the chassis going to the Driving Trailer Composite, gangways to the 105, and bogies to another 126 Trailer coach. This will also give me a spare power car dummy chassis to cannibalize. The spare Hornby 110 chassis gives ideas of a Met-Cam 111 with the Rolls Royce engines, but this may be for another day......

Bit like this, not Lima ends but a product of the fat bald bloke.

 

You have got to have a 107 for a ScR layout.

 

As I am typing this I have had a thought.* 

How about swapping the Met-Cam chassis with the BRCW one, if you are going to make a 107. The BRCW chassis for the 111 and the Met-Cam chassis for the 107?

 

* now going for a lie down to recover.

 

[Gibbo675]

2 hours ago, leopardml2341 said:

I'd be interested to see the 103 conversion; I've been thinking of it for a while, and doing it the same way. Do you have the sides already?

Hi Andy,

 

I cut and shut a Hornby 110 onto a 103 sometime back, I might finish it one day !

 

103 DTCL

103 DMBS

 

Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

2 hours ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Andy,

 

I cut and shut a Hornby 110 onto a 103 sometime back, I might finish it one day !

 

103 DTCL

103 DMBS

 

Gibbo.

I thought of doing it that way but I'd need a spare body for the extra windows, at which point etched sides seemed a good idea.... very nice job you have done there Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

4 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Bit like this, not Lima ends but a product of the fat bald bloke.

 

You have got to have a 107 for a ScR layout.

 

As I am typing this I have had a thought.* 

How about swapping the Met-Cam chassis with the BRCW one, if you are going to make a 107. The BRCW chassis for the 111 and the Met-Cam chassis for the 107?

 

* now going for a lie down to recover.

 

Yes Clive, great idea but it makes my brain hurt too!

[Signaller69]

5 hours ago, leopardml2341 said:

I'd be interested to see the 103 conversion; I've been thinking of it for a while, and doing it the same way. Do you have the sides already?

Hi Andy, 

No not got that far as its between the Class 100 and 103, the 100 would be of more use for Scotland but I just prefer the look of the 103 to be honest! Worseley do both of course.....

http://worsleyworks.co.uk/4mm/4mm_BR.htm?LMCL=CudVFg

[Gibbo675]

4 minutes ago, Signaller69 said:

Hi Andy, 

No not got that far as its between the Class 100 and 103, the 100 would be of more use for Scotland but I just prefer the look of the 103 to be honest! Worseley do both of course.....

http://worsleyworks.co.uk/4mm/4mm_BR.htm?LMCL=CudVFg

Hi Martyn,

 

I have nearly started this one also !!!

 

100 DMBS

 

The background of the shot shews the dangers of an eBay alert set up for DC Kits.

 

Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

1 minute ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Martyn,

 

I have nearly started this one also !!!

 

100 DMBS

 

The background of the shot shews the dangers of an eBay alert set up for DC Kits.

 

Gibbo.

I like that a lot Gibbo, is that the 100 made from Hornby Mk.2 sides?

[leopardml2341]

 I've got a DC kits class 101 if you need another

 

 

Edited November 20, 2019 by leopardml2341
Edited to remove arrows pointing to post above, cos Martyn sneaked in :)

[Gibbo675]

8 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

I like that a lot Gibbo, is that the 100 made from Hornby Mk.2 sides?

Hi Martyn,

 

The build is described on page 8 of my thread, you will remember it when you see it.

 

Gibbo.

[Gibbo675]

8 hours ago, leopardml2341 said:

 I've got a DC kits class 101 if you need another

 

 

Hi Andy,

 

I'm somewhat tempted, that said, I have so much unfinished stuff that I shouldn't really in an "I can resist anything except temptation" sort of a way.

 

Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

Very prompt service from Peter's Spares once again. The cracked gear on the Hornby 101 has now been swapped out and all is well. A couple of Hornby "121" dummy bogies (a push fit version otherwise of the Lima 117 dummy bogie) and a 101 underframe were also in the package for the various DMU projects in mind.

 

Before I get too involved in those though, I wanted to get Dunnington's other Class 04, No.1, repainted, once again just needing the Lazerglaze fitting now. Inspection revealed this also had cracked plastic axles so these were also swapped out for new ones. I remembered to paint around the window frames black, along with the cab handrails, this time!

The PW Gang's van has been done too; it should be a BMC but this Austin version, with a similar body shape, will have to do until I find something more accurate, or take a Dremel to it....

 

Dunnington's Station Building is progressing gradually too.

 

Thanks for looking,

Martyn.

[Signaller69]

Back to DMU's! Comparison of the Hornby 110 and Lima 117 cab ends shows there SHOULD be no major  problems in grafting the 117 ends to the 110 bodies to produce a Class 107. The width and depth are almost exactly the same. The 110 headcode box looks closer to the right size for a 107 than the 117 one, but the raked windscreen of the 117/107 could be the fly in the ointment if it means the roof/headcode box will stick out proud of the cab front, so some thought needs to be given to this before wielding the razor saw.

 

Elsewhere the 117 corridor connections have been grafted onto the 105 to replace the missing ones.

The missing buffers can be noted, which will be replaced in due course. I have the missing DMBS end glazing which is taped to the box insert. I have decided this unit will remain as a power twin as the Glasgow allocation appears to have been thus in the late 60s.

 

On the subject of 105's I am trying to find which ones ran in green with full yellow ends, or retained green/sywp until c.1970, particularly on the ScR, if anyone has such info. (DMC M50805 being one car I am aware of of the former).

 

Cheers all.

[Signaller69]

Further to my 107 roof wonderings, if anyone has a Bachmann 108 and could let me have the measurement along the roof centre from the corridor end to the front edge of the headcode box, and also from the rear roof corner to front cab corner along the rain strip, these would be gratefully received (nearest mm will suffice; I'm assuming these would be the same on the 107 as the 108)?

 

Thanks all.

Martyn.

[MJI]

Buffer, try LMS, they look good, got them on my 119

[Signaller69]

1 hour ago, MJI said:

Buffer, try LMS, they look good, got them on my 119

Thanks, think I have a pack of 18" ones in my bits box, hopefully may have a single spare salvaged one around too somewhere as I need 5....

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Signaller69 said:

Further to my 107 roof wonderings, if anyone has a Bachmann 108 and could let me have the measurement along the roof centre from the corridor end to the front edge of the headcode box, and also from the rear roof corner to front cab corner along the rain strip, these would be gratefully received (nearest mm will suffice; I'm assuming these would be the same on the 107 as the 108)?

 

Thanks all.

Martyn.

Hi Martyn 

 

The 108 from end of coach to the front of the headcode box is 229mm. The class 110 is 228mm.  The Golding drawings show the 108 and 107 as being 227mm. 

 

The class 107 (and 108) had a flatter rear than the 110 so measuring from the rear corner of the side to the front corner long the gutter would be longer on the 107 than the 110. It is an error I can live with. 

 

Little suggestion, cut the lima front off with headcode box and do like wise with the Hornby model and then build up the headcode box similar to how I have done on my class 118. 

 

[Gibbo675]

1 hour ago, Signaller69 said:

Further to my 107 roof wonderings, if anyone has a Bachmann 108 and could let me have the measurement along the roof centre from the corridor end to the front edge of the headcode box, and also from the rear roof corner to front cab corner along the rain strip, these would be gratefully received (nearest mm will suffice; I'm assuming these would be the same on the 107 as the 108)?

 

Thanks all.

Martyn.

Hi Martyn,

 

Here are two photos of my DC Kits Derby 108:

 

Above corridor to head code box 230 mm

 

Total length of gutter 226.5 mm

 

These figures are very close to what Clive has quoted, interestingly the DC kits 108 has the flatter ends than the Hornby 110.

 

Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

11 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Martyn 

 

The 108 from end of coach to the front of the headcode box is 229mm. The class 110 is 228mm.  The Golding drawings show the 108 and 107 as being 227mm. 

 

The class 107 (and 108) had a flatter rear than the 110 so measuring from the rear corner of the side to the front corner long the gutter would be longer on the 107 than the 110. It is an error I can live with. 

 

Little suggestion, cut the lima front off with headcode box and do like wise with the Hornby model and then build up the headcode box similar to how I have done on my class 118. 

 

Very many thanks Clive, jolly useful. I hadn't considered the angle at the rear end being different; like yourself I think I will live with the difference. I had considered cutting the Hornby roof behind the headcode box and removing a couple of mm so it would sit correctly over the Lima cab front and maintain the same roof profile but it still may be too much of an ask to get everything in perfect alignment. Using the Lima headcode box as you again suggest, may end up as the only workable solution.

 

Thanks again for the measurement info.

Martyn.