Grim-up-North; Goathland, Queensbury & Bradford.

[jcredfer]

59 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

I can almost feel a cameo layout coming on, with that gatehouse as a tunnel mouth...

 

Cameo in the "Acre layout setting" sort of meaning..... ?

 

J

 

[St Enodoc]

2 minutes ago, jcredfer said:

 

Cameo in the "Acre layout setting" sort of meaning..... ?

 

J

 

Not sure yet. Might be something like a funfair with the Ghost Train...

[Sasquatch]

On 15/10/2020 at 16:06, St Enodoc said:

Not sure yet. Might be something like a funfair with the Ghost Train...

If life was long enough I'd love to build a model of Peter Pans in Brighton. It's the half way point of the  Volks Electric Railway. Of course there would be the beach in the fore ground, the railway, fun fair with animated rides,

Madeira drive with a Faller car system and those wonderful regency terraces as a back drop. The carriage shed sidings and workshops under the arches across the road would make for quite interesting operation.

As a project it would be consuming. What a fantastic exhibition piece it would make though.   

Edwardian days

 

0s as I remember it.

 

Today at night!

 

 

Squatch dreaming on....

 

 

[St Enodoc]

18 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

If life was long enough I'd love to build a model of Peter Pans in Brighton. It's the half way point of the  Volks Electric Railway. Of course there would be the beach in the fore ground, the railway, fun fair with animated rides,

Madeira drive with a Faller car system and those wonderful regency terraces as a back drop. The carriage shed sidings and workshops under the arches across the road would make for quite interesting operation.

As a project it would be consuming. What a fantastic exhibition piece it would make though.   

Edwardian days

 

0s as I remember it.

 

Today at night!

 

 

Squatch dreaming on....

 

 

Brighton MRC built a model of Volk's, in 7mm scale, in 1983 to celebrate the line's centenary. It was a lovely model (although not the most exciting layout to operate...). I think it went to Hove Museum after the club finished with it but after that I've no idea. @acg5324 of this parish might know more.

[Sasquatch]

33 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

Brighton MRC built a model of Volk's, in 7mm scale, in 1983 to celebrate the line's centenary. It was a lovely model (although not the most exciting layout to operate...). I think it went to Hove Museum after the club finished with it but after that I've no idea. @acg5324 of this parish might know more.

I remember seeing it on more than one occasion... Just. 

Like you said wasn't that exciting! Isn't a trilling ride on the real thing come to think of it. Was always shivering for the entire trip!

 

What was exciting was taking the train from London road to Falmer on the Lewes line as teenagers, to go to gigs at the university. I don't think we ever purchased tickets!

Edited October 18, 2020 by Sasquatch

[St Enodoc]

1 hour ago, Sasquatch said:

I remember seeing it on more than one occasion... Just. 

Like you said wasn't that exciting! Isn't a trilling ride on the real thing come to think of it. Was always shivering for the entire trip!

 

What was exciting was taking the train from London road to Falmer on the Lewes line as teenagers, to go to gigs at the university. I don't think we ever purchased tickets!

We exhibited Volk's in Eastbourne just before Christmas 1983. On the Sunday I was extremely hung over after a big night at the rugby club, so I rigged up some temporary wires to control the points at Aquarium and Black Rock remotely. That let me run the whole thing single-handed without moving from my chair.

 

London Road eh? You will, of course, be aware that London Road station has been Brighton MRC's HQ for almost 50 years.

 

http://www.brightonmrc.co.uk/

[acg5324]

8 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Brighton MRC built a model of Volk's, in 7mm scale, in 1983 to celebrate the line's centenary. It was a lovely model (although not the most exciting layout to operate...). I think it went to Hove Museum after the club finished with it but after that I've no idea. @acg5324 of this parish might know more.

Close John.... Brighton Museum actually. Don’t think it has ever been displayed.

New club website

https://brightonmrc.wordpress.com

 

Yes Volks was a bit dull to operate. Even worse than the Narrow gauge with the working waterwheel...with real water that we used to pop some washing up liquid in towards the end of a show and watch it bubble up in the pond......much to the annoyance of Doug and Hugh.

 

My Dad had a couple of seasons on Volks as a driver after he took early retirement from BH&D / Southdown.

https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h35f94ca1#h35f94ca1

Edited October 18, 2020 by acg5324

[St Enodoc]

49 minutes ago, acg5324 said:

Close John.... Brighton Museum actually. Don’t think it has ever been displayed.

New club website

https://brightonmrc.wordpress.com

 

Yes Volks was a bit dull to operate. Even worse than the Narrow gauge with the working waterwheel...with real water that we used to pop some washing up liquid in towards the end of a show and watch it bubble up in the pond.

 

My Dad had a couple of seasons on Volks as a driver after he took early retirement from BH&D / Southdown.

https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h35f94ca1#h35f94ca1

Thanks Andy - so not Hove, but Brighton actually .

[acg5324]

2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Thanks Andy - so not Hove, but Brighton actually .

Actually yes!

[Sasquatch]

Really nice to have some fellow Brightoians on here! I didn't know that you were from Brighton John!

Even though I'm from Woodingdean actually.

 

Andy. Will check out all of your links when I get a quiet moment.

Am helping my friend mill up a pile of about 90 tree trunks, so am a bit busy right now!

 

Regards Shaun

[St Enodoc]

3 hours ago, Sasquatch said:

Really nice to have some fellow Brightoians on here! I didn't know that you were from Brighton John!

Even though I'm from Woodingdean actually.

 

Andy. Will check out all of your links when I get a quiet moment.

Am helping my friend mill up a pile of about 90 tree trunks, so am a bit busy right now!

 

Regards Shaun

I'm not really, Shaun! Born in Norf Lunnon but, as did most people during a BR career, moved all over the place at frequent intervals. I worked in Brighton from 1983-85 (lived in Mile Oak, Portslade) and then, after changing employers, lived in Eastbourne for several years before heading overseas. My daughters still live in Sussex though, so I do visit from time to time.

[acg5324]

14 hours ago, Sasquatch said:

Really nice to have some fellow Brightoians on here! I didn't know that you were from Brighton John!

Even though I'm from Woodingdean actually.

 

Andy. Will check out all of your links when I get a quiet moment.

Am helping my friend mill up a pile of about 90 tree trunks, so am a bit busy right now!

 

Regards Shaun

I’m from Moulsecoomb, went to Westlain Grammar near the University. Lived in the Queens Park area and Patcham after leaving home. 37 years on the Railway mainly retail jobs for the first 15 years including working at most ticket offices in Sussex, a spell installing ticket machines followed with 20 years in Control as Train service manager then Duty Manager. Retired to York with my wife, who is from the area.

 

[Sasquatch]

Went to Longhill, worked for Phoenix Brewery and Jaycee Furniture (could never get a job on the railways unlike a lot of my mates) My Grandfather worked at Allen West for most of his life and was entertainments manager at thier social club. I lived in Woodingdean for 30 years before I moved to Saltdean with my ex wife.   

 

Was Paul Horan ever in the BMRC?

 

Regards Shaun

 

 

[Sasquatch]

20 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

I'm not really, Shaun! Born in Norf Lunnon but, as did most people during a BR career, moved all over the place at frequent intervals. I worked in Brighton from 1983-85 (lived in Mile Oak, Portslade) and then, after changing employers, lived in Eastbourne for several years before heading overseas. My daughters still live in Sussex though, so I do visit from time to time.

Living there counts John. I use to spend long summer holidays staying with my mum, stepdad and siblings in Stoke Newington. My favorite ride out was to Eastbourne, that's where Scalerail was!

Small world!

 

Regards Shaun

[acg5324]

1 hour ago, Sasquatch said:

Went to Longhill, worked for Phoenix Brewery and Jaycee Furniture (could never get a job on the railways unlike a lot of my mates) My Grandfather worked at Allen West for most of his life and was entertainments manager at thier social club. I lived in Woodingdean for 30 years before I moved to Saltdean with my ex wife.   

 

Was Paul Horan ever in the BMRC?

 

Regards Shaun

 

 

Half our street worked for Allan West including our neighbours. Remember Jaycee furniture. Don’t remember a Paul Horan at the club.

[St Enodoc]

3 hours ago, acg5324 said:

Don’t remember a Paul Horan at the club

Nor do I. Perhaps he was one of the "other lot". Big Dave might know.

[bigwordsmith]

On 12/03/2010 at 02:36, Sasquatch said:

Having just looked at my first post I think it might be worth adding a bit of a proper introduction to it after nearly ten years.

 

When I built Goathland I had no idea at the time that it would morph into what it has and think despite my enthusiasm recon it might take another ten years to finish Grim-Up –North.(GUN for short).

 

GUN is my attempt to amalgamate 4 Yorkshire based layouts into one super layout. Goathland has been extended by 5feet, had a repaint, new tress and signals installed since we moved. When we looked at this house I had a vision of the spider infested double garage becoming the ultimate modelers man cave. It has now been dubbed “The Warehouse” by Andy P.    Rewired, insulated and dry-walled it is now home to Goathland, Queensbury and a loop that incorporates part of Bradford Exchange.

 

I’m aware that I’m seen by some as a butterfly modeler but at the end of the day it’s all the same project.    The idea is to be able to run trains from one place to another or if the mood takes’ just sit and watch the trains go round.

 

Sometimes mojos can wane and although retired at an early age there are times when time simply doesn’t allow or energy fades. Modeling is my passion and I like a challenge, some models involve an enormous amount of work and when it all finally comes to fruition should form a very enjoyable layout.

 

This first post needs some pictures on it so enough with the waffling on and here are some of the models and some of the layouts.

 

 

Below I have retained my original post.

 

 

So the shopping is now almost over. The only things of much use from the local model shop are basic materials such as scenic`s, plasticard and paint.

A full scale plan has been drawn up and a new blade waits in the jigsaw.

The scenery around Goathland lends itself to open plan base boards and having purchased two thick insulation sheets months ago there`s no turning back!

As with Dunster (my last layout) all the structures have been completed over the winter months including a curved viaduct. I should mention at this point that half this layout will be fictitious and that it is scheduled to appear at the model railroad show in Medford Oregon during November.

The design will include;

• Continuous running
• The fiddle yard from Dunster, with modifications
• Reversibility, 180 degrees to be viewed at home from the operating well or the front at exhibitions
• Plug and play base board connections
• Infra red remote control of points
• Gradients
• Code 100 track, with electrofrog pointwork.
• Working signals
• Full lighting

Comments more than welcome.

Regards Shaun

 

Hi Shaun

 

I've just stumbled across this excellent thread, and was really impressed by your curved viaduct - have you explained how you built? Of not, can you share the secrets?

 

Peter

[Sasquatch]

On 23/10/2020 at 03:07, bigwordsmith said:

 

Hi Shaun

 

I've just stumbled across this excellent thread, and was really impressed by your curved viaduct - have you explained how you built? Of not, can you share the secrets?

 

Peter

Hi Peter

 

Thank you for your kind comments and welcome to the thread.

 

The viaduct on the fictitious half of the layout was tricky in that it has a gradient and curve. When my wife and  i built Goathland it was intended as an exhibition layout which I could assemble back to front at the shows. This meant that the gradient on the station half had to come back down and meet the fiddle yard exit curve at the exact same point too!

 

I drew everything out out full scale on a sheet of 6mm MDF first.

 

Layout incorporates open frame construction and the viaduct has its own bed set into the frames.

 

The  wedge shaped piers are made up from ply and were placed onto the bed.

 

 

Back and front were clamped to the piers for marking up before cutting out.

 

Each one was numbered up and the whole thing glued and clamped together until dry and the track bed was added. 

 

It was then placed on the bed and the scenery built up around it using thick insulation foam sheet.

 

 

I glued embossed brick sheets on with contact adhesive and painted it before fixing it in its place on the layout.

 

The famous pic.

 

I've since repainted it and took a few more pictures just now featuring a NE Q6 with coal hoppers and NER brake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Queensbury's 3 arch viaduct is made with the same approach but from scribed foam board.

 

Two more are planned for Grim-up-North. One of which will be taller and longer set in front of the other smaller one, more of a railway over the arches with bridges sort of affair.

 

Regards Shaun

 

 

[Sasquatch]

Just some more ballasting this week.

After I finished spreading the ballast  on Queensbury, some heavy equipment was brought in to power my old airbrush. PVA, warm water and a couple of drops of washing up liquid were mixed and sprayed over the ballast.

The addition of ballast magic to the fine ballast wasn't quite enough to hold it down hard but definitely stopped it blowing about when the glue mixture was applied. 

When I find my Peco track rubber I'll get the trains running again.

 

 

With plenty of spare ballast and magic left, I got that down on the Bradford section too!

 

Another shot of Brow lane rail over bridge!

 

Hope you're all keeping out of trouble, Shaun

 

[john new]

Their latest book may interest you. https://www.willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ (Link now replaced with https://willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ )

 

No connection other than as a satisfied purchaser of their previous releases.

Edited October 27, 2020 by john new

[Paul Cram]

1 hour ago, john new said:

Their latest book may interest you. https://www.willowherbpublishing.co.uk/
 

No connection other than as a satisfied purchaser of their previous releases.

Link doesn't work for me

[john new]

5 minutes ago, Paul Cram said:

Link doesn't work for me

 

Didn't for me either so I have copied it again from my desktop rather than the i-pad - try this one which was live a minute ago - https://willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ possibly their site was temporarilly down.

[Paul Cram]

4 minutes ago, john new said:

 

Didn't for me either so I have copied it again from my desktop rather than the i-pad - try this one which was live a minute ago - https://willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ possibly their site was temporarilly down.

Thanks John, that works.

[Sasquatch]

6 hours ago, john new said:

Their latest book may interest you. https://www.willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ (Link now replaced with https://willowherbpublishing.co.uk/ )

 

No connection other than as a satisfied purchaser of their previous releases.

Thank you John.

The cover picture is of Queensbury 3 arch bridge. A real boon in that it shows the platform support brackets!

Somewhere deep in a box I have a sprue of Prototype models LMS station canopy brackets that look just like that!

Anyway I'll definitely be adding a copy to my book collection at some point.

 

Regards Shaun 

[Sasquatch]

Had a rather messy day today. After getting up on the roof and sweeping the chimney this morning I got to work on some permanent way. Any stray ballast was poked or rubbed loose,  vacuumed up, collected and sieved into a container for future use.

My old track colour acrylic that was mixed up 8 years ago had gone a bit lumpy. Fortunately I was able to filter it through a folded piece of mosquito screen into the airbrush jar. Messy business! To this was added about 5% 2-Butoxy Ethanol and some more water. After a good shake it was ready for the airbrush. I ended up using two jars and hardly had any problems with flow.

The results look great. A little heavy perhaps but tones and dulls everything down perfectly.

Comparison with this picture to the one I posted on Sunday, shows that any uneven ballast has all but disappeared.

 

 

 

The technique is to aim at the rails sides one side at a time which covers everything!

 

 

Looks like I need to source a new Peco track rubber before I can get the trains running again and the point blades will need a bit of attention with a fiberglass pencil.

Platforms next!

 

Tonight's train. Yet another N2 with kit built 51' teak suburbans.

 

 

Regards To All Squatch.