Andrew P Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Once again, some excellent work going on up in the woods Shaun, superb mate. Edited January 22, 2021 by Andrew P 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted January 26, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2021 Have had the need to sit quietly for a few days, (we had snow as well so couldn't do much else anyway). so I made something essential for any layout pre-70s. Luggage! Back in the day folks traveled in style and without the use of automatic washing machines needed to take enough clothing to last their trip. Armies of workers were employed to man handle the stuff on the railways and a quick search on Google will reveal mountains of the it comprising everything from hat boxes to gentlemen's chests. Models of the stuff are rare and expensive. I set about making my own. Various bits and chunks of plastic were sourced from boxes of scrap and fashioned into suitable sized parts, then detailed with more bits of scrap such as rivet strip, U channel for handles and snippets for hinges, locks etc. No two the same and then glued into stacks. It all got a blast from the camo brown rattle can and then painted with acrylic picked out with metal enamels for the hardware. Queensbury's station master hates the day the mill shuts for a weeks summer break and has the idea to order a mechanical horse from Bridge St. depot next year because he's getting too old for it. That was fun! Shaun. 6 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2021 Next on the Gresley coaching stock program is this BCK. (Perhaps someone might enlighten me as to what BCK stands for?). Built in 1928 to a modified NER design these 45’ bogie vans ran on 7’ fox bogies and had duel braking. They were steel paneled below the waist, had quarter light windows along their full length and had two pairs of doors per side along with end doors. Working from Nick Camplings drawing and photograph on pages 114/115 in Historic carriage drawings vol.1 the model has been scratch built. My version has been in the to-do pile for a few years because the first attempt ground to a halt when the laminated sides warped. Undeterred I decided to have another go two evenings ago. Under frame is scratch built. I used some Kirk fox pattern bogies from the scrap box, cut and shut them down to size and detailed them with brake shoes. It was air brushed in grimy black along with 9 other under frames when I started the coach building finishing project last fall. The roof is standard LNER profile. This one came from an old PC kit someone gave me, I just cut the bow ends off and added the vents. Having had great success laminating styrene onto plexiglass with Queensbury’s waiting room structures I have applied this method to the BCK with an aim to masking the windows. .020” sheet has been punched from the rear to create all the rivet detail. (Please don’t attempt to count them). The rest has been built up with .010” and .020” Evergreen strip using the thinner stuff for the drop lights in the doors. The tops of the window frames were made over length to assist fixing and trimmed flush before capping the sides with a .030” x .156” strip. The doors need more work but not bad for a couple of evenings work. I plan on finishing the build this evening. Squatch. 11 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 BCK usually means Brake Composite Korridor. The standard inter-regional through coach. Normally 4 third class compartments and 2 first class. But it looks like you’re modelling a BK. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Penrhos1920 said: BCK usually means Brake Composite Korridor. The standard inter-regional through coach. Normally 4 third class compartments and 2 first class. But it looks like you’re modelling a BK. Built in 1928 that coding system wouldn't have applied. It's not a brake or nor does it have corridors so not a BK! They were lettered BCK and classed in the CCT (Covered Carriage Truck) series. So I'd put my money on the first two being Bogie & Carriage! My guess at the "K" might be the 11th type of bogie carriage vehicle in an LNER numbering system that already had inherited 10 other types from the pre-grouping companies. Regards Shaun. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Sasquatch said: Built in 1928 that coding system wouldn't have applied. It's not a brake or nor does it have corridors so not a BK! They were lettered BCK and classed in the CCT (Covered Carriage Truck) series. So I'd put my money on the first two being Bogie & Carriage! My guess at the "K" might be the 11th type of bogie carriage vehicle in an LNER numbering system that already had inherited 10 other types from the pre-grouping companies. Regards Shaun. Scrap that last bit. The earlier NER types built in 1915 lettered them as BCK. here I'll do a bit more investigation. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 3, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2021 This scratch building is very addictive. The more you do it the more easier it becomes and skills develop rather quickly. I was struggling with the door hinges on this model, such tiny bits are almost impossible to handle let alone glue accurately in place. What happened was working one pair of doors at a time I noticed that the Roxey door handles were just about the same size as the hinges so I drilled out .3mm holes where the hinges go and used super glue gel to fix them. This method of making hinges will now become standard on all rolling stock builds. The top hinge straps to the end doors are quite challenging! It's taking shape nicely. Squatch 6 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2021 Here's a dubious macro shot of one of the ends. Just needs pipes and couplings. For some reason these took longer to build than the sides. All I had knocking about for buffers were oval types and after some thought (Rather more a long period of procrastination) I decided to trim and file them into the correct clipped style. Hopefully the weather will be suitable for the addition of primer and paint tomorrow. Squatch. 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 7, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2021 After spending what seemed most of the afternoon masking up all those windows I risked giving the body a quick blast with rattle can grey primer. It was only 44F so I brought it in the house quickly to dry. These vans were painted coach brown by the LNER. For this I have a large tin of phoenix light weathered teak. Thinned with regular paint thinner it coats very nicely, again I dragged it into the house and got a few complaints from SWMBO. The thinners on my hands and the airbrush equipment must have been responsible for most of the fumes so I returned the equipment to the garage and washed my hands and got away with it! I couldn't resist carefully pealing away the numerous bits of tape to see what it looks like and get a couple of images. Believe it or not there's still about 30 odd bits and pieces left to attach. Fingers crossed, it might be finished by the end of the weekend! Regards Squatch. 8 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Paint fumes in the house, I feel your pain. I spray in the shed with the heater on, she minds less about that because it is used by the kids rather than her normally. richard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ighten Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Having just had the rayburn serviced the whole house smells lightly of kerosene - I should be safe getting a few days inside modelling done whilst its freezing outside and hopefully no one will notice Superb work Squatch 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2021 The paint on the BCK took longer to dry than expected, so I didn't get it finished. Last night however I managed to cut in all the windows where the removal of the tape left bare white card. It also received it's very simple lettering. Next on the agenda is this interloper to the program. A 52'6" corridor third that I built about 10 years ago. It's livery lets it down so it is time for a makeover. It's roof came away without mishap but I wasn't so lucky with the sides. After a couple of hours work with scalpels, nail files, burnishing pencils and baking soda to remove most of the old paint and insignia, the sides have been repaired and numerous bits of door hardware replaced. I also replaced the lower, more prominent hinges with Roxey door handles. So my to-do list for today is to get the paint on it and finish detailing the van. Regards Shaun. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 9, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) Before teaking could commence I had to have another bash at repairing the side. The filler idea was never going to work. A good repair job most often involves making the damage worse to start with. I know this from working on furniture in the polish repair dept. of a big reproduction furniture company. So that's what I did, filed away the damage into a rectangle and parred off the moldings back to the corners. A bit of plastic strip was fixed in with Zap-A-Gap and sanded down. The moldings were added from 0.010" x 0.020" styrene strip. This time I have tried a deeper orange. The corridor section and roof cantrail were brushed white and then orange. Sides and ends airbrushed! That all dries very quickly so it was on to the fun part. I'm satisfied with the repair job, it takes a close macro image and a pair of +ones to see it. Squatch. Edited February 9, 2021 by Sasquatch 8 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) You may have thought the BCK bogie van was finished the last time I posted a picture of it on here. Since then however I have made up and fitted window bars, had to lower the ride height, fit new wheels, add about two dozen other bits, fit couplings and have weathered it. One lesson learned is to never prime and airbrush anything with the wheels in situ. Things went from bad to worse after trying to clean up the only 2 pairs of 12mm plain disc wheels I have with a fiber glass pencil.The fibers were getting into places they shouldn’t and the detail on the bogies was falling off becoming carpet monster fodder. I ended up fitting new Bachy wheels when the blacking fluid turned the brass Jackson wheels a sort of copper pink! The Bachmann wheels are a little bigger so what was left of the brake shoes had to go too. I made my own NEM coupling pockets around Bachmann couplings and fixed them by trial and error to the bogies at the exact height and with about 1.5mm clear of the buffers. Window bars were made in a strip of 8 and cut up. Fitting the roof was a frustrating process and is still a little gappy in places. Weathering job is a watery mix of charcoal, black and burnt umber allowed to dry and wiped off with cotton buds. There’s also a weight been added of about 4ozs, stuck in the center with double sided sticky pad. It’s not perfect by any means but what a great addition to almost any LNER train. Squatch. Edited February 13, 2021 by Sasquatch 11 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 14, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2021 LNER Dia.25 52'6" full third rebuilt. Still needs a minor repair to the far right corridor window, a touch up here and there and some weathering. I'd like to know what you think? I teaked the inner compartment wall and even the handrail. Regards Shaun 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 G'Day Folks Looks really good, I tried on a 'All First' failed, I'll try again. manna 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2021 It certainly looks the part. I do like it when the interiors are painted as well, it does make a lot of difference I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 17 hours ago, manna said: G'Day Folks Looks really good, I tried on a 'All First' failed, I'll try again. manna Hi Mate. Thanks. So what went wrong? Shaun. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 hours ago, ChrisN said: It certainly looks the part. I do like it when the interiors are painted as well, it does make a lot of difference I think. Hi Chris mate. There's a rake of 61'6" Kirk kits and a triplet restaurant set in my kits box. So I'm thinking fully detailed wooden interiors and soft lighting. Just got to do it! Regards Shaun 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Sasquatch said: Hi Mate. Thanks. So what went wrong? Shaun. G'Day Shaun I tried painting it using Mike Tice's way, only had some cheap tube acrylic paint, looked OK until I tried to cover it with a Aussie floor polish.................it all washed off, so it decided to wash it all off, with a old toothbrush, so I'm back to square one. At least it wasn't terminal. Now I'll have to wait until I do a trip to Adelaide. manna 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Had the same sort of thing happen with some cookies the other day. Put baking soda in them because I didn't have baking powder! Needless to say it all went south. When that happens to y'all down there d'ya say "It all went North"? Haha Shaun Edited February 15, 2021 by Sasquatch 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 G'Day Folks We still 'South' here, who wants to go to 'Antarctica' !! manna 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, manna said: G'Day Folks We still 'South' here, who wants to go to 'Antarctica' !! manna Don't know, I'd quite enjoy that but it's not top of my list. Aus and NZ are though. My Grandad was in the RAF and was stationed on the north coast during WWII as a radio operator. He had planned to go back one day with me when i was old enough but he passed away before it became a reality. I still want to go anyway, in his honor! 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 G'Day Shaun. My dad was based in Australia on Aircraft Carriers, liked the place so we emigrated here in '64, returned to the UK in 70, came back in 91. Dad in Sydney 1945. (He's on the right.) manna 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, manna said: G'Day Shaun. My dad was based in Australia on Aircraft Carriers, liked the place so we emigrated here in '64, returned to the UK in 70, came back in 91. Dad in Sydney 1945. (He's on the right.) manna Your dad looks way too young to be serving in the RN in that photo. Incidentally my grandfather was 23 when the above picture was taken also in 45. The ship in the picture is a Dutch Tromp class destroyer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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