Grim-up-North; Goathland, Queensbury & Bradford.

[Alister_G]

That's all looking lovely Shaun, real railway-in-the-landscape stuff, cracking job.

 

FLOCKAGE!

 

 

Al.

 

[Sasquatch]

On 22/09/2019 at 03:07, Alister_G said:

That's all looking lovely Shaun, real railway-in-the-landscape stuff, cracking job.

 

FLOCKAGE!

 

 

Al.

 

Yes! I feel flockaging just might be the relaxing break I need right now, so there's no reason why I can't go ahead and start at the back with the lift of sectionages stone wallages, shruberyage, trees, livestockage and the odd personage 

 

Thank you for the encouragementage!

[Alister_G]

10 hours ago, Sasquatch said:

shruberyage

 

I'm liking that one...

 

Al.

[Sasquatch]

Let's make up for the lack of posts with a big one.

 

Not the flockaging some of you may have been looking forward to I'm afraid to say, it's a bit chilly in the garage. I have been looking for a suitable heater and think I have found what's needed. A new 220V supply will have to be installed so until then I have commandeered the dining table as a work bench and got cracking with some scratch building for Queensbury.Bridges to be precise.

Firstly then the rail over rail bridge which crosses the rope hauled coal incline. I don't have a clear image of this bridge. It was of a girder construction and had the usual railing. Later images show what looks like a sewer pipe crossing the gap here also, I will model that as well, purely for visual interest.

Worthy of note in this image is the chap carrying a white sack across the incline cutting towards the signal box. His path is well worn and cuts through the stone walling behind the signal cabin which was dismantled before BR days. White buildings at far left are stables. The two platform buildings here (on the Halifax-Keighley line) are so staggered to allow the bridal tunnel to run under between them. Platforms are mostly of timber construction and there is a staircase visible which goes down to the lattice footbridge which takes passengers across to the Bradford platforms. More on this below.

   

The model uses some plastic cut from the base of an American warehouse kit for the main spans, ratio cattle dock posts and various Evergreen bits of strip and rod.

 

 

Next I tackled the farm crossing bridge which is still in existence.

Model is wider than the prototype, made from more punched styrene strip and card. The deck is two pieces of card from the strip packaging laminated and stuck in with superglue gel. Abutment walling is Peco stone sheet.

 

 

The footbridge crossing mentioned above was made from yet more styrene. I traced out the etchings from a D&S GNR footbridge kit onto paper. Stuck down some low tack tape and built the lattice work up. Afterwards I noticed the kit differs somewhat from the originals and have chosen to live with the discrepancy.

 

Hopefully there will be more modeling tomorrow followed by another post.

Squatch

Edited October 28, 2019 by Sasquatch

[Bogie]

 

Don't want to appear too critical but have you now overdone the shruberyage?

[Sasquatch]

20 hours ago, Bogie said:

 

Don't want to appear too critical but have you now overdone the shruberyage?

Phew....

 

 

...for minute there, I thought you were going to say I'd overdone the rivetcountage!!!

 

 

 

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Edited October 28, 2019 by Sasquatch
Bad (american) English!

[Sasquatch]

Two more models completed today are the signal cabin base. After the cabin was taken down it appears the base being of sound stone construction was utilized as some kind of hut. The usual foam board clad with 7mm scale brick plastic has been employed,  finished off will my last scrap off Wills corrugated iron .

 

 

Goods facilities at Queensbury were basic if that. One short loading platform and loading gauge, fed by two sidings reached by a steep gated track from Station Road. Again foam board was used but with two spare sections of Ratio platform edging I found in a scrap box. The loading gauge isn’t finished, so far it’s made from a reclaimed WR signal post and two lengths of plastic strip.

 

 

I also painted the farm bridge. Weathering is dry brushed acrylic charcoal and black-green wash with a bit of moss green to add the life.

 

Squatch

 

Edited October 28, 2019 by Sasquatch
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[westerhamstation]

Hi Shaun, really nice colourage, All the best Adrian.

[Sasquatch]

Hi Adrian

 

Here's some more colourage for you.

 

I haven't noticed until now that this picture taken after closure shows the loading dock and loading gauge both below and above the concrete name board.  The steep access appears to be asphalt, making it more than a track!

Edited October 28, 2019 by Sasquatch

[Sasquatch]

Having retreated to the warmth of the house a new project was needed to keep me out of trouble.

 

 

So I’ve decided to get to grips with the six wooden platform structures at Queensbury.

The homework involved hours pawing over many images from the internet in an attempt to get these about right, it’s quite hard modeling something that ceased to exist over 60 years ago and I will try to piece together an interesting post for you of what I have deduced and how I have gone about modeling these facilities.

 

Most of the images on the internet portray Queensbury in three basic states of existence and obviously they fall into the three eras of steam.

 

In Great Northern days during the golden age when trains would have been the new major way to travel, each pair of the six buildings would have had its own porter, whose responsibilities included the up keep of his platforms. A winter’s day journey for say a banker living in Queensbury would have started by a mile’s brisk walk down to the station where he would find a gas lit station, nice cozy waiting room with coal fire and a greeting from the porter. The wooden buildings back then were resplendent in GNR light and dark stone and had platform canopies. It was all very neat and tidy.

 

The LNER installed electric lighting and if repainted in the early days the buildings would have had umber framing and cream, almost salmon panel work. Later, most probably before the Second World War a repaint saw the buildings sporting light cream above the waist and Buckingham green on the doors and below the waist.

 

Sometime post war the canopies were removed. Tram services to Bradford made a big dent in the railways income. Who would want to walk a mile on a cold morning down to the station or, back up after a day’s work for that matter.   From what I can tell British Railways never repainted the station which would have been in the North Eastern regional colours of ivory and oriental blue. Without hardly any station staff the rot set in. By closure to passenger traffic on May 23rd 1955 the buildings looked most uninviting and almost derelict.

 

 

The post war period for my model then is most convenient as both LNER and BR liveried trains would be appropriate!

 

 

 

Each of the six platforms had its own waiting rooms and conveniences, access to the gents being on the end and the ladies through the middle of the two waiting rooms.  The three buildings on the inside of the triangle were longer and had an extra room with chimney on the opposite end to the toilets. These I suspect were the staff rooms. The two buildings on the Keighley-Halifax side were mirror images of the others.

 

 

Over the many months I have procrastinated far too much over how to construct these buildings. Many ideas have been considered including plotter cutters, sectional casting and even etching. However in a moment of pure unabandoned madness I decided to make a trip to the local model store and spent a small fortune on Evergreen styrene. The drawing I made is now a few years old. I’ve put this off for far too long!

 

Using a figure placed on the computer screen the size of the buildings was estimated.

 

 Construction began by cutting up a 4mm clear acrylic sheet on my band saw which will form the main shell of the buildings.  Using a section cut from some .040” O scale car siding I built up one end which is common to all six structures. From this I will make a cast and produce 5 more from resin. Next I tackled a front variating in construct by using .020” siding.

 It’s slow work. Cutting and fitting one section at a time all I can manage is one front, back or pair of ends in a day.

 

Eight days consecutive modeling later and another expensive trip to the store for yet more styrene and things are starting to take shape.

Yesterday’s long front employs all the lessons learned on the previous six and was a joy to build, there’s no less than 100 parts which are much more well aligned than the first build.   I have decided to have a few doors open here and there to break up that “out-o-the-box” look, this also helps add life to the scene.

 

Thanks for checking in, comments and input always welcome...

 

Shaun.

[jukebox]

Impressive, Shaun!

 

Bet the liquid cement fumes were something to behold, too.  

 

I *do* like working with styrene - there's something about the way it can be layered to give depth that makes it feel "right".

 

When you paint yours it will come to life.

 

Cheers

 

Scott

[manna]

G'day Folks.

 

Lot of work in those old GN buildings.

 

manna

[Sasquatch]

1 hour ago, jukebox said:

Impressive, Shaun!

 

Bet the liquid cement fumes were something to behold, too.  

 

I *do* like working with styrene - there's something about the way it can be layered to give depth that makes it feel "right".

 

When you paint yours it will come to life.

 

Cheers

 

Scott

Hi Scott

Thanks,  I'm using the Tamiya stuff in very small amounts and we have the air purifier running. Mrs. S. ordered one off the web when there was a fire this year. Lucky enough there was only 3 days of smoke then the wind changed. One of the cats got asthma from last years smoke so i try to cement things up when he goes out!

 

Styrene is my favorite material to work in but am not looking forward to sticking on about a thousand window bars of .020" x.020"

 

Have been thinking on the paint finish and mixed up the acrylic colours ready to spray. It's all going faster than expected!!!

 

Regards Shaun

Edited November 12, 2019 by Sasquatch
just felt like it

[Sasquatch]

58 minutes ago, manna said:

G'day Folks.

 

Lot of work in those old GN buildings.

 

manna

Hi Manna

 

Yes! Am having fun though!!  There will be a break in modeling at the end of the month as I have just booked Dunster to appear at this years show, which needs a little attention and a clean!

 

Regards Shaun

 

[Sasquatch]

On 11/11/2019 at 13:47, Sasquatch said:

 

 The three buildings on the inside of the triangle were longer and had an extra room with chimney on the opposite end to the toilets. These I suspect were the staff rooms. The two buildings on the Keighley-Halifax side were mirror images of the others.

Shaun.

 

 

Apologies. I got that bit wrong. The building on the left with its two chimneys  on the Bradford to Halifax platform is obviously  the longer of the two and quite clearly on the outside of the triangle. The front of which I have started this morning and is the last of the 12 fronts and backs. Great progress!

Just the ends, chimneys, roofs and painting to go

 

Shaun

Edited November 13, 2019 by Sasquatch
wrong image

[Alister_G]

Lovely job on the buildage mate, it's looking really good.

 

Like Scott says, layering up styrene give a real feeling of the structure.

 

Al.

[Sasquatch]

19 minutes ago, Alister_G said:

Lovely job on the buildage mate, it's looking really good.

 

Like Scott says, layering up styrene give a real feeling of the structure.

 

Al.

Hi Al.

 

Structure modelage is right up there with stock buildage. Very enjoyable and satisfying.

 

Regards Shaun

 

[Sasquatch]

Now here's an interesting picture. Taken on a winters day from the footbridge looking eastwards.

 

A bit of detective work is needed here to date the picture.

Most notable is the lonely looking building on the Keighley-Halifax platform which shows clearly the rear window arrangement of one of the long type waiting room blocks. To the left is the bridle tunnel, albeit hidden by snow. Further to the left out of view is the other shorter building.

The name boards at Queensbury were replaced with cast concrete ones by BR but clearly here, we see a wooden style one.

The building is devoid of a canopy but at first glance appears not to be finished in the final Buckingham green and cream paint scheme. This along with the fact that the building looks to be in a well kept state would suggest the 1930s. The posters look more like BR era.

 

However. It looks like there is snow covered rail mid distance, which would be the ash dumping siding which only shows up on maps post LNER. The platform has footprints in the snow which would suggest passenger services.  So somewhere between 1948 and 1955.

 

 

 

    

 

Edited November 14, 2019 by Sasquatch
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[Sasquatch]

Well I'm very happy with my progress so far having stuck to my plan to finish one front or back per day and will admit to having a bit of a struggle with the last long front yesterday. One end got built also and the parts for 4 more were cut. Getting these together will be today's goal.

 

Backs are upside down and the Hailfax-Keighley pair are in the center. 

Just a couple of small parts missing, four doors to make and a little cleaning up to do.

 

Shaun

[Sasquatch]

And here's the ends. Well 9 of them anyway.

Seeing as my RV molding compound was well past its shelf life I have had to make all  the ends from styrene too.

The louvers above the gentleman's are chopped from some old GWR station fencing. The three chimney ends still need to be assembled. The five doors took ages and I still need to cut out the clear acrylic to allow them to be open.

 

 

Time for a train (first one on this page).

J39 is standing in for a failed a failed A8 and is seen here on the climb to the summit over the 8 arch viaduct almost lost in the landscape of Pottyshire.

[Sasquatch]

Post one of this thread has had a much overdue edit and now contains quite a few layout images.

 

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[Andrew P]

On 12/03/2010 at 02:36, Sasquatch said:

Having just looked at my first post I think it might be worth adding a bit of a proper introduction to it after nearly ten years.

 

When I built Goathland I had no idea at the time that it would morph into what it has and think despite my enthusiasm recon it might take another ten years to finish Grim-Up –North.(GUN for short).

 

GUN is my attempt to amalgamate 4 Yorkshire based layouts into one super layout. Goathland has been extended by 5feet, had a repaint, new tress and signals installed since we moved. When we looked at this house I had a vision of the spider infested double garage becoming the ultimate modelers man cave. It has now been dubbed “The Warehouse” by Andy P.    Rewired, insulated and dry-walled it is now home to Goathland, Queensbury and a loop that incorporates part of Bradford Exchange.

 

I’m aware that I’m seen by some as a butterfly modeler but at the end of the day it’s all the same project.    The idea is to be able to run trains from one place to another or if the mood takes’ just sit and watch the trains go round.

 

Sometimes mojos can wane and although retired at an early age there are times when time simply doesn’t allow or energy fades. Modeling is my passion and I like a challenge, some models involve an enormous amount of work and when it all finally comes to fruition should form a very enjoyable layout.

 

This first post needs some pictures on it so enough with the waffling on and here are some of the models and some of the layouts.

 

 

Below I have retained my original post.

 

 

So the shopping is now almost over. The only things of much use from the local model shop are basic materials such as scenic`s, plasticard and paint.

A full scale plan has been drawn up and a new blade waits in the jigsaw.

The scenery around Goathland lends itself to open plan base boards and having purchased two thick insulation sheets months ago there`s no turning back!

As with Dunster (my last layout) all the structures have been completed over the winter months including a curved viaduct. I should mention at this point that half this layout will be fictitious and that it is scheduled to appear at the model railroad show in Medford Oregon during November.

The design will include;

• Continuous running
• The fiddle yard from Dunster, with modifications
• Reversibility, 180 degrees to be viewed at home from the operating well or the front at exhibitions
• Plug and play base board connections
• Infra red remote control of points
• Gradients
• Code 100 track, with electrofrog pointwork.
• Working signals
• Full lighting

Comments more than welcome.

Regards Shaun

Excellent re visit Shaun, all looking superb mate.

[Sasquatch]

Hi Andy mate.

Thanks!

There will be more added to that in due course.

 

 

Regards Shaun

 

[Sasquatch]

Thinking it was warm enough this afternoon I set up the air brush and mixed up some cream/ivory acrylic paint. However it must have been way too cold for that because the paint just didn't take and had to washed off under a warm tap. I jumped into the car and drove down to the local hardware store who had just the right shade in a rattle can for $3.

 

Here's the first mock up, just to give a feel for the structure and to give an idea in what still needs to be done.

 

Buckingham green is a bit tricky to get right. When I painted the signal box I mixed enough for the whole station and it has sat in the fridge ever since. Only problem is that it wont take to the ivory so i have been looking into an alternative.

 

The signal box has had its windows painted and looks much more the part. Why I ever did them green in the first place must have been some pretty pore guesswork.

 

 

As seen below I still need to do a bit more detailing.

 

Lastly tonights train. 2-8-0 austerity class on a works duty at Queensbury with that signal box all in rare technicolor.

[figworthy]

15 hours ago, Sasquatch said:

Lastly tonights train. 2-8-0 austerity class on a works duty at Queensbury with that signal box all in rare technicolor.

 

Could that be a demolition train ?