RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 The twin third is quite old now. One of the first coach kist I ever built more than 30 years ago. It has proved robust enough throughout the years, running on Hornby bogies and finished in Humbrol #43 with a tan wash. The ends received a good makeover a few years ago but it now looks far too basic when coupled up to one of my latest builds. It will take a lot to bring it up to scratch... : Stripping the paint. : Filing the taper off all those windows. : Metal wheel sets on better bogies. : Correct detailing of the under frame. : Drilling out no less than 256 tiny holes to detail all those compartment doors. : No less than 32 mirrors and 64 carriage prints. : Passengers. ...and that's all before I can break open the Liquin and oil paint. It's either get on with it or have a break and do some structure modeling for a bit of a change. Squatch. 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 G'Day Folks Dad was only 19, he volunteered when he was 17 ( boy sailor), he's still with us, 95 in two weeks. I don't envy you updating those Kirks. manna 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, manna said: G'Day Folks Dad was only 19, he volunteered when he was 17 ( boy sailor), he's still with us, 95 in two weeks. I don't envy you updating those Kirks. manna Hi Manna There's a lot to be said about good fresh sea air! As for the twin third, it might be a bit on the brittle side considering it's age! Regards Shaun. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 Amazing what a bit of careful weathering can do. (Image taken on manual setting in day light on a slightly overcast morning). The two sailors in the third compartment from left could be Manna's dad and his mate. (Funny coincidence having two of them twice in a few posts). Regards Shaun 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just found the real you mate. https://fb.watch/3J7KMVJo0v/ 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Andrew P said: Just found the real you mate. https://fb.watch/3J7KMVJo0v/ Imposters are being shot! Survivors are being shot again!! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2021 There i was doing a bit of browsing, like ya do, when I stumbled across this image of Queensbury. Not much to work with layout wise but the train scores ten outta ten. That's a diagram 62 five comp brake third coupled up to a Thompson semi corridor composite. Nice! here 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 G'Day Folks Ripper of a Picture, Hornby make both of those coaches !! manna 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Sasquatch said: There i was doing a bit of browsing, like ya do, when I stumbled across this image of Queensbury. Not much to work with layout wise but the train scores ten outta ten. That's a diagram 62 five comp brake third coupled up to a Thompson semi corridor composite. Nice! here Shaun, Just love the mix of coaches, so much more interesting that a rake of Mk1s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, manna said: G'Day Folks Ripper of a Picture, Hornby make both of those coaches !! manna Look again Mate. The wooden Gresley is an early 5 compartment type with the guards door at the compartment end of van! What I'm going to be up to today then is upgrading my Hornby teak Thompson to go with the dia. 62 I built. If I ever get to earn some money I'll do N1 69478 to pull them. The train of course is painted crimson but I could use a Hornby 4 comp. brake third and my crimson Thompson composite! I've got quite a few options come to think of it, especially if I'm modeling the transition period. Regards Shaun Edited February 18, 2021 by Sasquatch 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, ChrisN said: Shaun, Just love the mix of coaches, so much more interesting that a rake of Mk1s. Second that mate. Most of the trains seen at Bradford exchange during the 1950s, 60s and in the West riding in general are broken up mixes of short rakes. The most interesting of which must be the Worth Valley motor train. You will find the KWVR history page interesting I'm sure. https://kwvr.co.uk/history/ The last photo on the slide show is of Ivatt 41326 and the push pull set. This train also features in Great Northern Outpost vol.3 (Willowherb Publishing). The train is made up of three Stanier corridor steel mainline coaches with both brake ends converted into driving compartments. Most interesting is the fact that they're painted plain crimson. Now I want to model Keighley and some of the worth valley line. I need more space and just might have to move the woodwork shop into the garage and the railway up to the barn. Haha. If the DG find out there will be trouble. https://kwvr.co.uk/history/ regards Shaun 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 G'Day Folks Didn't pick up on the type of coach it was. But the whole 'West Riding' area is interesting. manna 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 22, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2021 Remember this, from the banner on the old forum. That nicely detailed LNER Twin. My attempt at lighting in it wasn't brilliant and the paint finish was awful. An upgrade is my next project which I'm doing along with one other coach this week. The rooves were screwed on to allow access to the lighting which worked off of a rechargeable 9V battery. I began by removing it all. Back in the days before I had any comprehensive books on Gresley coaches I had modeled the interior of the composite wrong. These coaches only had access to the center toilets from the adjacent compartments. As can be seen here I made up nice doors and seat ends. I'm going to have to live with the deliberate mistake, besides I quite like it the way it is. (Purists will just have to wait for the next train to come along and hold it if they're not next to the lavatory). Following the same procedure as the last one. I removed and stripped the sides, replacing a few missing details as well. White primer... ...airbrushed the orange... ...and rebuilt the bodies. I picked out the cantrail and rain deflectors in white and then the orange on the rooves. The first coat of oil burnt umber. Today I darkened them up with a second go with the oil paint and picked out all the metal parts such as hinges, rails, ducket and sole bars in coach brown. More tomorrow. Shaun. 8 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) After lettering with HMRS Pressfix the weathering has been applied one side at a time. It's a thin wash of water acrylic mix consisting two drops charcoal, two drops burnt umber and one drop black. When applied over the oil based teak it flows into the detail where I then soak most of it up by capillary action with the soft brush which was used to apply it. The pictures show one weathered side of each for comparison and how the wash transforms the golden pine look! Only need to cut and fit new windows and will get some pictures of it on the layout. Watch this space... Shaun Edited February 23, 2021 by Sasquatch Always need to improve my English. 7 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Sasquatch said: After lettering with HMRS Pressfix the weathering has been applied one side at a time. It's a thin wash of water acrylic mix consisting two drops charcoal, two drops burnt umber and one drop black. When applied over the oil based teak it flows into the detail where I then soak most of it up by capillary action with the soft brush which was used to apply it. The pictures show one weathered side of each for comparison and how the wash transforms the golden pine look! Only need to cut and fit new windows and will get some pictures of it on the layout. Watch this space... Shaun Shaun those coaches really make me want some on Penrhos. The problem is I just can’t see how I can justify them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Penrhos1920 said: Shaun those coaches really make me want some on Penrhos. The problem is I just can’t see how I can justify them. Excursions! ...but then you would probably need green and cream tourist stock for that. The LNER provided quite a few 61'6" coaches for ambulance duties during the second world war which traveled far and wide. Very few photographs exist of this because even if photography would have been allowed, everyone was far too busy or tired to take any. The most popular excuse to run them on other companies lines is pigeon traffic. Beware of the Chivers 4 wheeled van though, it's not a pigeon van but they were used to carry other goods. A Hornby 61' full brake (BG) would be most suitable. Easy to mask up the windows etc. and apply Mike Trice's method. The 4 wheel van is available as a kit from Slimrails. It falls together and is very affordable. Regards Shaun. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) The next Gresley coach in the to-do drawer has sat in there for far too long. I purchased a Thompson steel BG in BR blue on eBay a few years ago with an aim to convert it into a steel bodied Gresley dia. 198. The Bachmann uderframe has had the battery box moved inboard and I made up better brake gear. The bogie springing was also sawn off and reattached in a more realistic position. I fixed the packet of 8 step boards to the sole bar and painted the sole bar coach brown along with the wheel centers. Body modifications include new roof vents, staple handles, wire rails. brass T handles and the prominent bottom hinges. The body has been shortened by 1mm each end and the glazing bars cut away. Also a drop light to one of the guard's doors has been modeled half way down. The roof modification took me ages to do. At one point I almost gave up. The dome ends came from the off cuts left over from the BCK roof. (Faint recollections of getting the idea right there and then) After adding a square of 0.020 styrene sheet under each end of the roof I glued the new ends on and filled them. The filling and sanding took place a few times until I got it right. Initially I had intended to paint this van crimson or even just coach brown and I would have been happy enough with that. But those of you who know me will like that I have gone the whole hog for something challenging and different. The LNER painted them in full faux teak paneling to run in express passenger services. They could be seen right behind a garter blue A4 for instance. The Krylon white primer reacted with the Bachmann blue plastic. When it had settled down I sanded the damage and started with grey primer over which I sprayed the white. And orange. The pictures show my masking procedure. Starting with darker panels I used lighter and lighter teak as I went. This method allows for overlapping. I'm quite pleased with it so far. The inner pair of doors are a few millimeters off but who's going to notice? These last 3 images were taken in direct sunlight. Am very excited to get this finished. Shaun. Edited February 24, 2021 by Sasquatch duplication 5 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2021 Now I remember why I model in the BR maroon/Carmine and Cream era! Looks very good though Shaun. Baz 1 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 25, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) The windows had to be flush otherwise this would not have looked at all right. Each one was sawn and filed from1.5mm clear plastic to a push fit . The glazing bars are tiny bits of white electrical tape painted orange and teaked using the normal method. When I have weathered the other side I'll take more pictures Edited February 26, 2021 by Sasquatch 5 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 26, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) The diagram 107/108 twin was reglazed last night. It took most of the evening to do, I used that non toxic super glue applied with a wooden toothpick. Just need to reattach a few under frame parts. This pair were built in 1930 and initially used on Kingscross outer suburban services. They should have turnbuckle trusses instead of the angle iron type I used that was supplied with the kit. Lav. Composite 44252 isn't bowed BTW. It was in the top of the camera view and the picture has been cropped. Edited February 26, 2021 by Sasquatch Add note. 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 G'day Folks If I send you all my Suburban coaches, can you re-glaze them for me !!! Only 20. manna 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 26, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, manna said: G'day Folks If I send you all my Suburban coaches, can you re-glaze them for me !!! Only 20. manna ...and here's me sitting here fretting about the Quintuplet set I've got lined up next. (As if the door handles, grab rails and bottom hinges weren't enough). The layout will never get built. G'day. Shaun 3 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 The quintuplet set project has been boxed up and stored in the modeling cupboard. My fingers are sore from using the mini drill and my eyesight needs a break. I have managed to make and fit all the grab handles and have fitted door handles and hinges to 7 of the 10 sides. The rooves and under frames are all made up. Most important though I have filed all the tapers from all the windows. For a nice change I have embarked on a bit of budget, light structure modelling. I started with a bit of online research and drew a 1/76 plan of the building I want to represent. Insulation foam has been ripped to various thicknesses on my band saw and I cut out and mitered all the sections. All done by eye from online images. It will all go together something like this. Any guesses as to what it's going to be then... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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