suomen Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I got my Heljan 43XX class Mogul yesterday and discovered problems with one particular point where obviously the radius is too small for the given loco-tender distance. Now I found out that there's the possibility to alter the gap by choosing another of the 3 holes in the drawbar. Isn't that a bit stone-age? I own O scale tender locos of the German manufacturer Lenz which have a very short (and prototypical) loco-tender distance when on a straight track but widening when passing through curved tracks. This works with dove-tail ducts which allow the coupling to veer in curves. On top of that coupling and un-coupling loco and tender is a piece of cake - smooth and simple indeed. What do you think, is it possible that we get a similar modern solution with the A3/A4 models as well, instead of an outdated solid peace of brass between loco and tender? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hi all, We have received three further decorated samples of our forthcoming Class A3, depicting the model in BR green including 60103 "Flying Scotsman" in its current guise. The samples feature a revised shade of BR green and full running board lining. All samples of our Class A3s will be on show at the London Festival of Railway Modelling at Alexandra Palace this weekend. As ever, do let us know what you think! Cheers, Dave H7-A3-005 - 60035 "Windsor Lad" in BR green with early emblem and unstreamlined non-corridor tender - £750 H7-A3-006 - 60077 "The White Knight" in BR green with late crest and unstreamlined non-corridor tender - £750 H7-A3-007 - 60103 "Flying Scotsman" in BR green with late crest and unstreamlined corridor tender - £750 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Expansion link still looks unconvincing to me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9016 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The green is better but still not quite right. A deeper, maybe slightly darker and glossier sheen is needed, this looks a bit like old Hornby. At least in the photo it does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just a question, but would the handrail be the same colour as the paint in the same proximity? I mean, the rail over the boiler cladding is green, over the smokebox is black ... is this right? I've sort-of accepted this as 'a compromise but should be shiny steel' with the OO, but with larger O-gauge, there's an opportunity to correct this, if it does need correcting. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Chariot Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 As well as the compromised expansion link set up, the cylinder drain cocks might be correct for the current Flying Scotsman guise but totally wrong for the LNER / BR period Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The very best shade of BR loco green I have seen on a model is by Bachmann on their A2 60533 ' Happy Knight '. It is a rich green with plenty of depth. The loco also has a hint of a sheen. Brunswick at it's best. ( IMO ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just noticed on the Ally Pally video that some LNER green examples were on display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Yes, Scotsman and Papyrus IIRC. Very impressive. I would have preferred the GN tender but still very nice. Surprised Hattons Dave has not posted pics yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted April 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2019 Now shown on Hattons website: https://www.hattons.co.uk/219403/Heljan_H7_A3_002_Class_A3_4_6_2_4472_Flying_Scotsman_in_LNER_Grass_green_with_unstreamlined_corri/StockDetail.aspx Cheers, Ade. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted April 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2019 Dave, will the bogie wheels be lined like the drivers ? Thanks, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Looks like they are going with the toy expansion links and the wrong cylinder drain cocks. Not for me at this price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 14:29, MarshLane said: Random thought .. but I've never noticed how 'squashed in' the word Railways appears on these style of crests? I know the text spacing was more compressed on the word 'Railways' than 'British' to see the symetical approach to either side, but is it really right? Rich I have a BR drawing via the old OPC service which shows the 'ear' boxes unequal lengths. Could possibly be reproduction distortion I suppose? The Nim. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted May 30, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Afternoon all, We have had some of the final samples of the Class A3s delivered and we have tested them extensively both on our own test track and on Pete Waterman’s “Leamington Spa” layout, which you can see in the video below. On the whole they looked and performed beautifully, handling the realistic trains on Pete’s layout with ease. We have found a few small problems which will need rectifying before we can finalise the production and this means there will be a slight delay to the release. The new date for the release of the A3s will be August 2019. The A4s and Teaks will also be slightly delayed and we will provide an update on them in due course. Cheers, Dave Edited May 30, 2019 by Hattons Dave 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2019 They look fantastic Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Chariot Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Great to see that they run pretty well at speed with a good load behind but the smokebox door on the BR 60103 example is wonky as is the the drivers side smoke deflector A work still in progress 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Is it me, or was the '4472' on the LNER one's cab side misaligned? Probably me - otherwise, looks superb. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) They do look nice, but the two-dimensioned expansion link isn't really too acceptable, not in this scale, is it? Mind, someone with a bit of nous could design and market a nice etched fold up, or cast one...and maybe the radius rod too? Edited June 13, 2019 by JeffP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just need six numbers, maybe even five...…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 60103? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Chariot Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) On 13/06/2019 at 16:40, JeffP said: They do look nice, but the two-dimensioned expansion link isn't really too acceptable, not in this scale, is it? Mind, someone with a bit of nous could design and market a nice etched fold up, or cast one...and maybe the radius rod too? Yes someone might think that they will sell enough to make it worthwhile to ptoduce.... but why. From recent released images it would appear that the cylinder drain cocks set up unique only to Flying Scotsman appear on all of the LNER and BR examples Such inaccuracies should not be there in the first place irrespective of the scale or price point Edited June 14, 2019 by Sun Chariot 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2019 A couple of snaps of "Flying Scotsman" in LNER & BR guise on display on Hattons stand at GCR yesterday. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2019 @Hattons Dave will the locomotives have the correct cylinder drain cock pipes? They all have the style that 60103 carries in preservation. Would be good to see the correct versions on the other locomotives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted June 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2019 Slightly confused as to when these and the A4's and the Teaks will hit the shops? In the flyer given out at GCR it says August 2020 for the A3's and Q4 2020 for the A4's and the Teaks. I suspect this is a typo? But Hattons website says August 2019 for the A3's and between June 2019 & July 2019 for the A4's (I suspect this will not be happening given we have not seen a fully decorated loco yet?) and between July 2019 & August 2019 for the Teaks? Cheers, Ade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2019 Morning all, thanks to everyone who came to see us on the stand at Quorn over the weekend, it was great for people to get the chance to see our O Gauge projects in the flesh. On 16/06/2019 at 18:07, Hilux5972 said: @Hattons Dave will the locomotives have the correct cylinder drain cock pipes? They all have the style that 60103 carries in preservation. Would be good to see the correct versions on the other locomotives. With so much variation in the cylinder drain cocks we've tooled up the version that is most easily modified in to other configurations if so desired. 14 hours ago, Adrian Stevenson said: Slightly confused as to when these and the A4's and the Teaks will hit the shops? In the flyer given out at GCR it says August 2020 for the A3's and Q4 2020 for the A4's and the Teaks. I suspect this is a typo? But Hattons website says August 2019 for the A3's and between June 2019 & July 2019 for the A4's (I suspect this will not be happening given we have not seen a fully decorated loco yet?) and between July 2019 & August 2019 for the Teaks? Cheers, Ade. Apologies for the confusion here Ade. The brochure did indeed have a typo for the O Gauge projects. The A3s are due to arrive in August 2019, A4s and Teaks will follow on slightly later in the year. We'll be able to provide a more accurate timescale closer to release. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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