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Class A3 4-6-2 in O Gauge from Hatton's

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I got my Heljan 43XX class Mogul yesterday and discovered problems with one particular point where obviously the radius is too small for the given loco-tender distance. Now I found out that there's the possibility to alter the gap by choosing another of the 3 holes in the drawbar. Isn't that a bit stone-age?

I own O scale tender locos of the German manufacturer Lenz which have a very short (and prototypical) loco-tender distance when on a straight track but widening when passing through curved tracks. This works with dove-tail ducts which allow the coupling to veer in curves.

On top of that coupling and un-coupling loco and tender is a piece of cake - smooth and simple indeed.

What do you think, is it possible that we get a similar modern solution with the A3/A4 models as well, instead of an outdated solid peace of brass between loco and tender?

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Hi all,


We have received three further decorated samples of our forthcoming Class A3, depicting the model in BR green including 60103 "Flying Scotsman" in its current guise. The samples feature a revised shade of BR green and full running board lining. All samples of our Class A3s will be on show at the London Festival of Railway Modelling at Alexandra Palace this weekend.

 

As ever, do let us know what you think!

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

 

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H7-A3-005 - 60035 "Windsor Lad" in BR green with early emblem and unstreamlined non-corridor tender - £750

 

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H7-A3-006 - 60077 "The White Knight" in BR green with late crest and unstreamlined non-corridor tender - £750

 

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H7-A3-007 - 60103 "Flying Scotsman" in BR green with late crest and unstreamlined corridor tender - £750

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Expansion link still looks unconvincing to me

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The green is better but still not quite right. A deeper, maybe slightly darker and glossier sheen is needed, this looks a bit like old Hornby. At least in the photo it does!

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Just a question, but would the handrail be the same colour as the paint in the same proximity?

 

I mean, the rail over the boiler cladding is green, over the smokebox is black ... is this right?

 

I've sort-of accepted this as 'a compromise but should be shiny steel' with the OO, but with larger O-gauge, there's an opportunity to correct this, if it does need correcting.

 

Al.

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As well as the compromised expansion link set up, the cylinder drain cocks might be correct for the current Flying Scotsman guise but totally wrong for the LNER / BR period

 

Bob

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The very best shade of BR loco green I have seen on a model is by Bachmann

on their  A2 60533 ' Happy Knight '. It is a rich green with plenty of depth.

The loco also has a hint of a sheen. Brunswick at it's best. ( IMO ).

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Yes, Scotsman and Papyrus IIRC. Very impressive. I would have preferred the GN tender but still very nice. Surprised Hattons Dave has not posted pics yet.

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Dave, will the bogie wheels be lined like the drivers ? Thanks, Tom

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Looks like they are going with the toy expansion links and the wrong cylinder drain cocks.

 

Not for me at this price.

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On 13/02/2019 at 14:29, MarshLane said:

Random thought .. but I've never noticed how 'squashed in' the word Railways appears on these style of crests?  I know the text spacing was more compressed on the word 'Railways' than 'British' to see the symetical approach to either side, but is it really right?

 

Rich

I have a BR drawing via the old OPC service which shows the 'ear' boxes unequal lengths. Could possibly be reproduction distortion I suppose?

 

The Nim.

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Afternoon all,

 

We have had some of the final samples of the Class A3s delivered and we have tested them extensively both on our own test track and on Pete Waterman’s “Leamington Spa” layout, which you can see in the video below.

 

 

On the whole they looked and performed beautifully, handling the realistic trains on Pete’s layout with ease.

 

We have found a few small problems which will need rectifying before we can finalise the production and this means there will be a slight delay to the release.

 

The new date for the release of the A3s will be August 2019.

 

The A4s and Teaks will also be slightly delayed and we will provide an update on them in due course.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

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Great to see that they run pretty well at speed with a good load behind but the smokebox door on the BR 60103  example is wonky as is the the drivers side smoke deflector

 

A work still in progress

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Is it me, or was the '4472' on the LNER one's cab side misaligned?

 

Probably me - otherwise, looks superb.

 

Al.

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They do look nice, but the two-dimensioned expansion link isn't really too acceptable, not in this scale, is it?

 

Mind, someone with a bit of nous could design and market a nice etched fold up, or cast one...and maybe the radius rod too?

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60103?

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On 13/06/2019 at 16:40, JeffP said:

They do look nice, but the two-dimensioned expansion link isn't really too acceptable, not in this scale, is it?

 

Mind, someone with a bit of nous could design and market a nice etched fold up, or cast one...and maybe the radius rod too?

 

 

 Yes someone might think that they will sell enough to make it worthwhile to ptoduce.... but why.

 

 From recent released images it would appear that the cylinder drain cocks set up unique only to Flying Scotsman appear on all of the  LNER and BR examples

 

Such inaccuracies should not be there in the first place irrespective of the scale or price point

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A couple of snaps of "Flying Scotsman" in LNER & BR guise on display on Hattons stand at GCR yesterday.

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@Hattons Dave will the locomotives have the correct cylinder drain cock pipes? They all have the style that 60103 carries in preservation. Would be good to see the correct versions on the other locomotives.

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Slightly confused as to when these and the A4's and the Teaks will hit the shops?

 

In the flyer given out at GCR it says August 2020 for the A3's and Q4 2020 for the A4's and the Teaks. I suspect this is a typo?

 

But Hattons website says August 2019 for the A3's and between June 2019 & July 2019 for the A4's (I suspect this will not be happening given we have not seen a fully decorated loco yet?) and between July 2019 & August 2019 for the Teaks?

 

Cheers, Ade.

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Morning all, thanks to everyone who came to see us on the stand at Quorn over the weekend, it was great for people to get the chance to see our O Gauge projects in the flesh.

 

On 16/06/2019 at 18:07, Hilux5972 said:

@Hattons Dave will the locomotives have the correct cylinder drain cock pipes? They all have the style that 60103 carries in preservation. Would be good to see the correct versions on the other locomotives.

 

With so much variation in the cylinder drain cocks we've tooled up the version that is most easily modified in to other configurations if so desired.

 

14 hours ago, Adrian Stevenson said:

Slightly confused as to when these and the A4's and the Teaks will hit the shops?

 

In the flyer given out at GCR it says August 2020 for the A3's and Q4 2020 for the A4's and the Teaks. I suspect this is a typo?

 

But Hattons website says August 2019 for the A3's and between June 2019 & July 2019 for the A4's (I suspect this will not be happening given we have not seen a fully decorated loco yet?) and between July 2019 & August 2019 for the Teaks?

 

Cheers, Ade.

 

Apologies for the confusion here Ade. The brochure did indeed have a typo for the O Gauge projects.

The A3s are due to arrive in August 2019, A4s and Teaks will follow on slightly later in the year. We'll be able to provide a more accurate timescale closer to release.

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,


Dave

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