Jack374 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 hours ago, jonny777 said: This is a typical early 1990s container train, but I notice that the second 86 has its pantograph lowered. Was this normal? I thought the idea was to have both locos working in order to maintain speeds over the stiffer gradients on their route. I realise the second loco may have failed, but keeping in the train would tax the lead loco even more. I would appreciate info on the location. 86638 and ano in 1991 Interesting photo...I’ve never seen a 'liner with one pan down before AFAIK...as you say probably failed. They have used single lecces on Anglo-Scottish intermodals in the past but they’ve always been mostly doubles. As for location, I’d plump for just south of Carnforth with the Down Goods loop(s) visible and access road to Steamtown in the foreground. Jack. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 hours ago, jonny777 said: This is a typical early 1990s container train, but I notice that the second 86 has its pantograph lowered. Was this normal? I thought the idea was to have both locos working in order to maintain speeds over the stiffer gradients on their route. I realise the second loco may have failed, but keeping in the train would tax the lead loco even more. I would appreciate info on the location. 86638 and ano in 1991 Not an expert on catenary but it looks like a couple of places on the GEML extension, although some of the sections of the 70's WCML extension into Scotland would look similar. If on the GEML they could get away with only a single 86, its not very hilly and a peak periods your not going to get up much speed between signal checks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Jack374 said: Interesting photo...I’ve never seen a 'liner with one pan down before AFAIK...as you say probably failed. They have used single lecces on Anglo-Scottish intermodals in the past but they’ve always been mostly doubles. As for location, I’d plump for just south of Carnforth with the Down Goods loop(s) visible and access road to Steamtown in the foreground. Jack. Hi Jack, Definitely Carnforth, the houses with the steeply sloping roofs are on Grosvenor Court and the hills in the background extreme left are those above Kirkby Lonsdale. Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 20/04/2021 at 14:25, ianmacc said: 83012 is still with us too! I think 84008 was a spare for the mobile load bank 009 and also lasted a long time beyond withdrawal. 84008 through the ages:- 1965, Bourne End 1984, Crewe Works 1987, Crewe Works scrap line 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonny777 Posted April 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2021 And..... at Crewe on a parcels train in July 1977. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 And.... probably one of it's rarest poses ever, as E3043 - coupled to E3303 at Manchester Piccadilly circa 1961. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 20/04/2021 at 14:25, ianmacc said: 83012 is still with us too! I think 84008 was a spare for the mobile load bank 009 and also lasted a long time beyond withdrawal. 84008 did last a long time, but not because it was a source of spares for 84009; I believe that was 84003. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, jonny777 said: 84008 did last a long time, but not because it was a source of spares for 84009; I believe that was 84003. I think you're right, 84003 was parked up at Derby RTC for years. Here's a poor Instamatic shot grabbed from a passing train, in June 1984. Someone will no doubt be along with a better one soon. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-XYsKXYhXM-cC1zZnI1Qm9ZckU/view?usp=drivesdk IIRC there was talk of 84002 & 010 being used by GEC as test beds for 3 phase drives. Nothing came of it, and they ended up at the bottom of a tip somewhere. Edited April 23, 2021 by rodent279 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50002Superb Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 One from today, it’s a little blurry 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 6th May 2021 Freightliner 66548 taking 90010 across the Pennines via the Calder Valley from Lostock Hall Junction to Leeds Midland Road TMD, approaching Brighouse. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mpb56125 Posted May 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 89001 being hauled through Tame Bridge Parkway. On route from Soho LMD to Barrow Hill after 25kV testing. Mark Edited May 6, 2021 by mpb56125 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Quite a day for AC electric drags...I’ll add 92020 at Barrow on Trent, which was being hauled by 66731 in NHS colours from Wembley to Loughborough Brush... Thanks, Jack. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Back on front line duty on 11th May 2021, 91110 'BATTLE OF BRITAIN MEMORIAL FLIGHT' approaching Sandal & Agbrigg (the outskirts of Wakefield) at speed with 1D09, 10.03 London Kings Cross to Leeds. Edited May 11, 2021 by 4630 17 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) On 29/04/2021 at 14:07, 50002Superb said: One from today, it’s a little blurry Thats 90035 ... or as I call him CB Hall ... at Rectory Lane Junction, on MML testing, but expected back at Crewe IEMD soon. Edited May 11, 2021 by DBC90024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, 4630 said: Back on front line duty on 11th May 2021, 91110 'BATTLE OF BRITAIN MEMORIAL FLIGHT' approaching Sandal & Agbrigg (the outskirts of Wakefield) at speed with 1D09, 10.03 London Kings Cross to Leeds. Nicely turned out too. No underframe cracks to be found on these 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, cornish trains jez said: Nicely turned out too. No underframe cracks to be found on these Certainly looked and sounded in fine fettle when it sped by. I hope I haven't put a curse on it now ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 4630 said: Certainly looked and sounded in fine fettle when it sped by. I hope I haven't put a curse on it now ! Let’s hope there are a few more about next week as I’m off to KX on the Monday morning train. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Let’s hope there are a few more about next week as I’m off to KX on the Monday morning train. As I understand the current very fluid position, there should be two diagrams from Thursday, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that changes. Diagram 1: 3A09 - 05.00 Neville Hill T&RSMD - Bradford Forster Square BDQ 1A09 - 06.30 BDQ - London KIngs Cross KGX 1D09 - 10.03 KGX - Leeds LDS 1A30 - 12.45 LDS - KGX 1D20 - 15.33 KGX - LDS 1A46 - 18.15 LDS - KGX 1D33 - 21.25 KGX - LDS 5D33 - 00.26 LDS - Neville Hill T&RSMD Diagram 2: 1A04 - 06.05 Leeds to Peterborough PBO 1N80 - 07.59 PBO to York YRK 1Y82 - 10.02 YRK to PBO 1N83 - 12.01 PBO to YRK 1Y86 - 14.03 YRK to PBO 1N87 - 16.01 PBO to YRK 1Y90 - 18.02 YRK to PBO 1D29 - 19.52 PBO to LDS I’m not aware of what, if any, diagrams will operate on Saturdays and Sundays. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 DB liveried Class 90 pair of 90024 in Malcolm Rail and 90026 in ex-Grand Central heading south and north through Stafford on Monday Kat@johnsonstreetIEMD 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Freightliner Class 90 workings Monday and Tuesday through Stafford Monday evening Tuesday morning Kat@johnsonstreetIEMD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Were these clips taken with a phone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I'm very late to the party - only on page 37 at the mo'. I have a question regarding pantos on the Class 87s: Why did they carry cross-arm ones instead of single arms? I thought cross-arms were from some prehistoric period concerning DC operations? An enquiring mind should like to know (apologies if the question has been raised elsewhere). Cheers, Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poor Old Bruce Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2021 This is a photo of the first passenger-carrying APT at Atherstone on 7 Dec 1981 and 89001 on some pantograph aerodynamics tests at Old Dalby some time in the mid 1980s I think. 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Prototype for everything thread? No OHL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, stewartingram said: Prototype for everything thread? No OHL? No, it was the BR Research prototype design for visually sensitive areas............... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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