WessexEclectic Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 12 hours ago, montyburns56 said: 85023 Carlisle 1982 by George Woods 1M69 1115 Stirling - Euston Motorail ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 E3029 at Northampton 1966 by The Jeyes 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 LSL 86101 on the Acton Sidings to Crewe leg of the GBRf Charity railtour 2021 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 LSL 86101 about to pass over the Baton for the next leg of the railtour to ...... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 GBRf's 92032 taking over from LSL 86101 on GBRf'S Charity 2021 railtour 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 GBRf 92032 getting ready to take the GBRf Charity railtours train north to Mossend - just needs to get its panto sorted now ... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Everyone now on board, panto sorted ... about ready to depart, just need a green light now ... can i have a G ... G ... can I have an R ... R .... can i have an E ... E .... lol ... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 87007 'The Midland Jubilee' Manchester Piccadilly 1977 by Hugh Searle 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 14/08/2016 at 00:16, Clive Mortimore said: E3200 at Euston circa 1968. Note BR arrows but still has white cab roof. Could be later because it looks like aircon stock in the background. Wot like this one, taken with my mum's Brownie 127 camera. What would become 86429 The Times, which was written off a(along with 86211 (City Of Milton Keynes) at the Colwich rail crash in September 1986 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 15:44, jonny777 said: Thinking about it; that probably is not a service from Euston, as they would have been Mk3s at the time. In fact most services from Euston to Birmingham/Wolverhampton did comprise of a Mk2 rake (with a Mk3 buffet car in the middle) as well as a DVT. This configuration was also used on the London Euston-Preston services in the 1990's to early 2000's, whilst they also made appearances on Liverpool and Manchester services to London. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, DJH1971 said: In fact most services from Euston to Birmingham/Wolverhampton did comprise of a Mk2 rake (with a Mk3 buffet car in the middle) as well as a DVT. This configuration was also used on the London Euston-Preston services in the 1990's to early 2000's, whilst they also made appearances on Liverpool and Manchester services to London. Even Glasgow on occasions; I've seen a photo of a 2F push-pull set on the Royal Scot in ~1995 iirc. Must've lost some time against the timetable what with the 100 limit for Mk2 stock against the 110mph schedule. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, hexagon789 said: Even Glasgow on occasions; I've seen a photo of a 2F push-pull set on the Royal Scot in ~1995 iirc. Must've lost some time against the timetable what with the 100 limit for Mk2 stock against the 110mph schedule. Come to think of it, I now recall seeing 86259 at Carlisle in this configuration as well as 87009 (same configuration) at Warrington Bank Quay both back in 2000 on London Euston to Glasgow Central workings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, DJH1971 said: Come to think of it, I now recall seeing 86259 at Carlisle in this configuration as well as 87009 (same configuration) at Warrington Bank Quay both back in 2000 on London Euston to Glasgow Central workings. Yes, I've seen photos of Mk2F sets on Glasgows in Virgin days as well, not especially common but it did happen. More often than not it seemed to be the 1405-ish off Glasgow and its inbound working as this was the one which used to convey Motorail vans and so was presumably timed for 100mph thus a Mk2 set substitution wouldn't be an issue. At the same time there would be times, you would imagine, where if only a 2F set was available for whatever reason then it would be pressed onto a 110mph working if required being much more preferable than cancelling the service altogether I would imagine! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 22/01/2021 at 07:34, rodent279 said: 86038 did indeed have an AEI cross arm pantograph, seen here in September 1985 rolling into Euston to pick up empty stock. As did non-MU, headlight fitted 86316, seen here running through a snowy Milton Keynes on vans, in February 1986. IIRC all class 87's had cross arm pans, except for 009 "City of Birmingham", until fitted with Brecknell-Willis pans from about 1983-4 on. I've searched Flickr and Google images, and have yet to come across a photo of 87009 with a cross arm pan, even pre-naming. I've only managed to find images as far back as 1977 in which the pan type can be positively identified, so the jury is still out as to whether 009 ever carried a cross arm pan. I can't remember if any 86/2's had cross arm pans-i don't think so, but someone will no doubt tell me otherwise! Edit:-a search on Flickr shows that 86420 was another with cross-arm pantograph. Edit again:-King Arthur was of course 87010. The incident where 010 lost its pan, and my dad's comment that King Arthur had lost his crown is true, but obviously was not 009 as originally stated. 86231 also had an AEI cross-arm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 06/01/2020 at 09:42, Owd Bob said: Early '90's. Cl. 87 passing Springs Branch and Ince Moss sidings. Must have been before 1992, when the multiple working receptacles were removed as made redundant by TDM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 22/06/2019 at 11:54, Rugd1022 said: Photos c/o Alan F Brookes, Rugby Midland, 1964... These pictures could have not have been taken in 1964. The Class 86's only first appeared in 1965 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH1971 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 14/03/2020 at 10:27, Rugd1022 said: Photo c/o Tim Roberts : E3191 at Euston with the 10.00 to Manchester Piccadilly on 4th May 1968... Which would become 86101 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Sans Catenary 86214 'Sans Pareil' Rainhill Cavalcade 1980 by George Woods 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 81005 & 87023 Wolverhampton 1976 by George Woods 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 17/08/2021 at 08:49, JeffP said: Does that train really need 10,000 hp? Up Beattock a steady climb, the grade's against her but she's on time ! Brit15 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted September 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, APOLLO said: Up Beattock a steady climb, the grade's against her but she's on time ! Precisely! If 10,000hp means the Intermodal doesn't slow down over Shap and Beattock, so doesn't use up two paths, yes it needs both locos. Easy to forget that the intermodal might easily weigh as much as a 25 coach passenger train. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Precisely! If 10,000hp means the Intermodal doesn't slow down over Shap and Beattock, so doesn't use up two paths, yes it needs both locos. Easy to forget that the intermodal might easily weigh as much as a 25 coach passenger train. Or more - I'm sure the 100 SLU length ones on the WCML are in the region of ~1400 tonnes. (If one takes a passenger coach as the BR standard of 35 tonnes, that would be 40 coaches.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4S47 - DB90's - Malcolm leading Christine making good timing through Stafford station last night (13-9) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Class 86 86621 'London School of Economics' double heads another class 86 on a northbound freight at Carlisle Station on 17 July 1990 (my photo) 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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