balders Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DY444 said: Looks like a 4 CEP motor coach Same photographer. Same date different angle. M653.. some sort of EMU? Copyright Gordon Edgar on Flikr. Regards Guy Edited March 19, 2020 by balders Addition 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Hi Chaps, Could it be the remodelled LMS articulated set that was converted into an overhead line maintenance and work-shop train as listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_railcars There is no number listed but possible ? Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Definitely LMS body profile and lamp iron position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) At the time of the storage of the locos at Bury, BR were conducting push-pull operation trials using a diesel loco and a set which I believe was Southern EMU stock, those trials took place in the North of England, is it possible we have the converted SR stock at Bury? post script: The 1967 Bournemouth electrification scheme incorporated push-pull class 33 + EMU combinations, I recall reports in Railway Magazine of BR experimenting with high speed diesel push-pull operations outside of the Southern, Edited March 20, 2020 by Pandora 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 This image is better 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pandora said: At the time of the storage of the locos at Bury, BR were conducting push-pull operation trials using a diesel loco and a set which I believe was Southern EMU stock, those trials took place in the North of England, is it possible we have the converted SR stock at Bury? post script: The 1967 Bournemouth electrification scheme incorporated push-pull class 33 + EMU combinations, I recall reports in Railway Magazine of BR experimenting with high speed diesel push-pull operations outside of the Southern, I seem to remember some trials were on the ECML. I'm sure there was a photo in a monthly magazine of a train passing Essendine, or near there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Pandora said: At the time of the storage of the locos at Bury, BR were conducting push-pull operation trials using a diesel loco and a set which I believe was Southern EMU stock, those trials took place in the North of England, is it possible we have the converted SR stock at Bury? post script: The 1967 Bournemouth electrification scheme incorporated push-pull class 33 + EMU combinations, I recall reports in Railway Magazine of BR experimenting with high speed diesel push-pull operations outside of the Southern, I was wondering if it was a 2-EPB trailer. The number sequence is class 416 minus the M prefix. Profile is very similar. Regards Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2020 And another Bury photo - locos being prepared for storage perhaps. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted March 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 19/03/2020 at 16:04, Pandora said: Those modern 25 kV locos failed due their the late-Edwardian technology of AC to DC rectification of power by Mercury arc rectifiers, basically valve technology, dependable in a fixed installation but not in a bouncing lurching railway locomotive, the locos were sent to Doncaster for upgraded rectifiers based on semiconductors, I saw a small number of the locos in their bedraggled state as they passed through St James Bridge station ( Doncaster) , arriving from the direction of Sheffield as they made their way to the Plant Works Well put. For RMWebbers who've never seen one, this is on display (and active) at Kempton Water Works Museum; the bright light is the striking of an arc off a pool of mercury. As Pandora says, imagine trying to control that in a locomotive bouncing along at 100mph. Then also consider what might have happened to the glass casing and all the mercury in a major crash..... you can see why solid-state rectifiers were incorporated "with aplomb" (love that word). 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Northmoor said: Well put. For RMWebbers who've never seen one, this is on display (and active) at Kempton Water Works Museum; the bright light is the striking of an arc off a pool of mercury. As Pandora says, imagine trying to control that in a locomotive bouncing along at 100mph. Then also consider what might have happened to the glass casing and all the mercury in a major crash..... you can see why solid-state rectifiers were incorporated "with aplomb" (love that word). Mercury arc rectifiers were very durable when operating in a suitable environment, an Uncle worked in an Engineering shop, their 60 year old, yet still fit for purpose, overhead gantry crane was powered by such a rectifier, I can recall the glow from the rectifier cabinet on the shopfloor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 On a more up to date note. The 90s on the GEML have almost certainly been effectively stood down (yes, I'm aware they'll be back as Freightliner locos) as a result of the reduced services introduced with the virus situation, the services can be handled by the in service 745s, a 90 set will be on standby until the end of the month (March 2020) when they will all finish 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 hours ago, beast66606 said: On a more up to date note. The 90s on the GEML have almost certainly been effectively stood down (yes, I'm aware they'll be back as Freightliner locos) as a result of the reduced services introduced with the virus situation, the services can be handled by the in service 745s, a 90 set will be on standby until the end of the month (March 2020) when they will all finish As a kid watching them blast up the WCML they looked so new and elegant that I couldn't imagine this day coming. Will that be the last of the 90s working passenger services then? I know it's been a while since they have been on their original hunting grounds with a regular passenger service. But have they taken up service anywhere else that's past me by? (sorry if I've missed something here, not lived in the UK for 7 years now). All the best, Dabe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 To all intents and purposes GE 90 hauled trains have probably finished, whether any go to Bounds Green this week remains to be seen, I will miss driving them on that job. They are due to start work with grand central on Blackpool shortly but I would think this maybe put back now 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, DavidMcKenzie said: But have they taken up service anywhere else As Russ says there are future plans but no other previous 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 It's looking like 90008 will work 1P04, 06:30, Liv St - Norwich tomorrow (Mon) and then *may* work 1P23, 09:00 Norwich - Liv St, if it does it will then work 1P24, 11:30 Liv St - Norwich and again *may* then work 1P43, 14:00 Norwich - Liv St, if it does it will then work 1P44, 16:30 Liv St - Norwich and then "thats all folks" 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 19/03/2020 at 21:24, balders said: Same photographer. Same date different angle. M653.. some sort of EMU? Copyright Gordon Edgar on Flikr. Regards Guy The Woodhead loco, is it "Tommy" the prototype of the fleet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Pandora said: The Woodhead loco, is it "Tommy" the prototype of the fleet? It is yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 Two views of 84 008 at Carlisle by Jim Hardwick, two of 84 003 at Nuneaton by Graham Shaw and two views of Euston in 1977 from John Flowers... 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Looks like two fish vans have been sunk in concrete up to the roof line. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 Back in 1998 the 25th anniversary of the 'Electric Royal Scot' was celebrated with a run from Euston using 87 008 standing in for 87 001 which was unavailable at the time, here are some in cab views of the trip taken by John Morris, some of these views have changed now thanks to the remodelling of Rugby and parts of the Trent Valley line... in the second photo 87 101 is on the down slow near Harrow with a northbound freight and in the last photo 86 424 is on the down slow at Great Bridgeford with a parcels working... 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted March 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2020 Lovely in-cab shots there. Here's one but not by me, credited to my ACLG colleague Keith Singleton who was in the cab of 86101 on its debut railtour (24th March 2007) and took this as it romped through Tebay. On the return it hauled 13 coaches plus a dead 47 over the top of Shap at 75mph. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 83 009 takes rest at Nuneaton on 18th June 1976, photo by John Flowers.... 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 A corker from the lens of Phil Clarke : the north end of Crewe station in late '72, 83 011 had gained its new Tops number in February while 84 008 was done in August.... 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Southof1E top tmd Posted April 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2020 The "Mad Axeman's" superb image of 81001 arriving at Bletchley with 1B08 1745 Euston - Northampton on July 29th 1983. Within a few weeks this fine loco was no more after severe fire damage in the Upper Clyde valley.... 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50031Hood Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 87001 waiting to depart from Milton Keynes. Second image shows 370002 and 005 passing Rugby on 3/4/85. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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