apt-e Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr_Tilt said: Tilting the WRONG way in a buffet car? Trust me, you DO NOT want to do that! All that coffee, beer and sarnies all over the floor, NO fun! I'm not sure why the model should want to do that as the cams under the floor should prevent it going the wrong way. Is there too much clearance between the cam and the bogie frame? Hi Mr Tilt. Its to do with the mounting point. The Hornby pivot can move a degree or so and mine doesn't so its mounted on a collar with pin through. The buffet is heavier on one side and is a little top heavy so wants to go that way. I have got it sorted, a little more testing. The intermediate coach works perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I would imagine you're absolutely correct in looking at the cams and mounting points first. If being heavier one side than the other is a factor, perhaps it behaves differently on left hand curves to right-hand? If you still see evidence of imbalance being a problem, one solution might be to artificially increase the load on the other side by selectively thickening some components. Listowel & Ballbunion thinking there - two fat passengers on one side of the coach to offset a cow on the other ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Two APT-P half sets awaiting the next set of tilt tests on Monday..... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 On 04/06/2021 at 11:42, apt-e said: Hi All, Been working on the extra original Hornby style coaches the past two days. Here are some videos of the very first powered test runs, second clip is the first two coach tests. Not perfect but not bad. http://www.apt-e.org/leadleykits/videos/APT.wmv http://www.apt-e.org/leadleykits/videos/APT2.wmv Buffet car needs bigger cams to make the car tilt as its pretty dam heavy and always wants to tilt the wrong way, Mr Tilt knows all about that lol........ Regards Paul These are looking impressive Paul. Do you think you are going to need twin motors for a full 14 car set? Paul R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 18 hours ago, pwr said: These are looking impressive Paul. Do you think you are going to need twin motors for a full 14 car set? Paul R Hi Paul, I think that would be a must. The old powercar doesn't really have the grunt to manage that. Lol. Regards Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Full tilt ahead.........all working now. Soak testing with buffet each way round. Edited June 7, 2021 by apt-e 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Edited June 7, 2021 by apt-e 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hi All, I am trying to setup a Facebook page to add to my RMWeb pages. Not sure if it works so could someone please give it a try. Search for Leadley Kits and look for the logo. Any help would be great. Thanks Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Hi All, I am just finalising the design for the APT-P extra coaches. Prototypes 3s of each are currently in print. None articulated dev coach is off the drawing board also now. Costings looks like they will be around : Kits will include. Hornby metal wheels, Perspex and internal fittings. £35 for the intermediate coach with Hornby style half bogie at each end. £44 for the buffet car with Hornby style half bogie at each end. £13 for the BT11 one part bogie. (Needed if you want to put both new coaches together). New half bogies can only be connected to original Hornby APT-P bogies. or £85 and you get all three. Regards Paul Edited June 9, 2021 by apt-e 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Intermediate kit..... both sides. Bottom vents have been correct since photo taken........ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) On 09/06/2021 at 10:50, apt-e said: None articulated dev coach is off the drawing board also now. would be interested in this as it's difficult to cut and shut one from the old Hornby mouldings due to the door cutaways etc. Also have you done the buffet car interior? wouldn't mind one separate for my cut and shut ... Edited April 6, 2022 by RedgateModels 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Buffet car kit, both sides. Vents re-positioned since these photos taken. Thanks to Rob of APT-P.com fame. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, RedgateModels said: would be interested in this as it's difficult to cut and shut one from the old Hornby mouldings due to the door cutaways etc. Also have you done the buffet car interior? wouldn't mind one separate for my cut and shut ... Hi, Nice work. Yes, the buffet car has internal detail. I have just posted some new shots....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Full expansion kit.......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, apt-e said: Hi, Nice work. Yes, the buffet car has internal detail. I have just posted some new shots....... would you do just an interior? is that possible with your design? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, RedgateModels said: would you do just an interior? is that possible with your design? Yes, that should not be a problem, might have to do a bit of cut and shut depending on how the internal supports are for your buffet car. One photo of the buffet internal parts and the other how they fit together. Regards Paul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 Looks ideal, would not need the seating necessarily as I have plenty of Hornby bits, but all the parts below the seating section would be great No rush, I can wait for the dev coach at the same time 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, apt-e said: Search for Leadley Kits and look for the logo. Hi Paul I found a facebook page entitled "Leadley Kits" but there was no information on it, just the outline of the page. Regards Roddy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, Roddy Angus said: Hi Paul I found a facebook page entitled "Leadley Kits" but there was no information on it, just the outline of the page. Regards Roddy Thanks Roddy, will try again.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/Leadley-Kits-100725048919393 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 02/06/2021 at 09:19, apt-e said: Need to find some matched paint for the new coaches. Needs to be as near as to the rest of the original model. Regards Paul. I had to mix up a representation of the Hornby blue/grey for the underframe on my buffet car. The window dark grey I used SR roof grey I think, but it's a bit dark ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 That's looking pretty darned impressive Paul, and I know NOTHING about Facebook! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Looks like another great kit, but not for me as I don't have the Hornby APT. Maybe I'll pick one up one day when other projects have taken the pressure off my wallet. Of course there's also the new Hornby APT which sounds as though it will be better than the original but may or may not be compatible when it comes out. I'm not on farcebook, so I hope you'll carry on posting updates here too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: Looks like another great kit, but not for me as I don't have the Hornby APT. Maybe I'll pick one up one day when other projects have taken the pressure off my wallet. Of course there's also the new Hornby APT which sounds as though it will be better than the original but may or may not be compatible when it comes out. I'm not on farcebook, so I hope you'll carry on posting updates here too Hi Mike, Yes, I will be still posting on here. The fb is just to raise the profile of the models, as I don't do fb apart from this. PoP 2 is on its way, keeping its dev a bit of a secret for now. Lol. Edited June 9, 2021 by apt-e 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Paul Slight hijack to then thread but a question for Mr Tilt. Kit - do you know the identity of the MK1 BG that was at the rear of the POP train when it went through the stops at Edwalton in 1973? Presumably this is not the same as lab 23? Kind regards Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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