Mr_Tilt Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Hi Paul N gauge PoP is in build, 4mm version is in paint, once I’ve fitted the ballast weights and cabling I can fit the roof frames and windows ready for decals and weathering. Cheers Bob AAB66BED-4DF7-46DD-BAF4-C2FDC7E0E56B.jpeg 3B2862AD-F89C-45C0-9B96-D4A5A68E216E.jpeg That does look good, well done. Very nostalgic for me. Is that Lab 23 on the front of PC4? And what motive power did you use for the train? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
86902 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Hi Kit Yes lab 23, need to do the service coach aswell. I have renumbered a Clayton and added all the extra pipework. Cheers Bob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Hi Kit Yes lab 23, need to do the service coach aswell. I have renumbered a Clayton and added all the extra pipework. Cheers Bob EB576756-350E-486A-BAB6-64C56C990D2E.jpeg Aggggh, a Clayton! Why do I find a sudden need to get a fire extinguisher? Lab 3, the 'service coach', is a slightly different kettle of fish. I have yet to find out what it started life as, but I suspect it was a Mk FO. By the time we were using it, there were 2 or 3 compartments installed at the PC4 end while the rest of it was open to house the instrumentation. And it had windows in the open end for the guard to observe when propelling, together with a train brake lever etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
86902 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Thanks for the info Kit. Do I need to fit a smoke generator in the Clayton!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Lab 3 was an RFO I believe M1005 Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Thanks for the info Kit. Do I need to fit a smoke generator in the Clayton!! Hehehehe, to be wholly authentic, yes. But the exhaust would have to re-directed to come out of the last access door on the LH side of the front engine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
86902 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Thanks buddy Edited July 15, 2018 by 86902 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Hi Paul N gauge PoP is in build, 4mm version is in paint, once I’ve fitted the ballast weights and cabling I can fit the roof frames and windows ready for decals and weathering. Cheers Bob AAB66BED-4DF7-46DD-BAF4-C2FDC7E0E56B.jpeg 3B2862AD-F89C-45C0-9B96-D4A5A68E216E.jpeg Oh nice work, look forward to seeing the prototype N gauge version painted up. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hi Folks, The POP train features in this video, enjoy ! Is that Kit Spackman at 5:21 ? Gibbo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Hi Folks, The POP train features in this video, enjoy ! Is that Kit Spackman at 5:21 ? Gibbo. Not in that version, no. It's Hugh Williams, he who wrote 'APT - A Promise Unfullfilled'. Hugh was working on Tilt Development with me at the time, but he moved to E-Train Support after we'd got POP-Train running well. There is a version of 'E for Experimental' with me doing the same thing as Hugh, but it's shot from the other side of the train so it's not all that clear, and there's a small part of that version at 5:44, where you can just see my Size 11s. But that is me at 11:21 driving the crane around the Tilt Rig, but I can't remember why I'm wearing a headset.... And right at the end, at 18:20, that's Ken Austin driving the train, he who ended up with a raging headache after the London-Leicester 1 hour run. [Later] Cor, that's very nostalgic seeing that through again. I could name most of the people in it too, and it was 45 years ago! Edited July 19, 2018 by Mr_Tilt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2018 Terrific film. Interesting to hear where various bits were built. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just starting to look at construction of my pop train kit and looking into colours question for Kit unless anyone else knows the answer we’re the weights made of concrete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just starting to look at construction of my pop train kit and looking into colours question for Kit unless anyone else knows the answer we’re the weights made of concrete No, the ballast weights were lumps of cast steel, and VERY heavy. We had to load them with a crane down through the hinged roof sections. And they were painted light grey, the same grey as the main tubular structure was. Please don't ask me what exact shade of grey, I think it was just what was handy in the paint store! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Believe they were steel. But Kit will know for certain. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thanks kit in this photo they look like concrete http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114295-apt-pop-train-kit-under-design-construction/page-6&do=findComment&comment=2474333 It goes to show how difficult it is when working from old photos, coming to the conclusion I may paint all the superstructure a similar light great colour and the floor a very dark grey and use a mid greybfor the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thanks kit in this photo they look like concrete http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114295-apt-pop-train-kit-under-design-construction/page-6&do=findComment&comment=2474333 It goes to show how difficult it is when working from old photos, coming to the conclusion I may paint all the superstructure a similar light great colour and the floor a very dark grey and use a mid greybfor the doors. That's because by then they were very RUSTY steel, and pretty rough cast originally as well. The colours sound about right, the doors were changed at least twice, see the notes on the drawings that came with the kit, and the floor area got dirty VERY quickly, what with brake dust, oil leaks and general much etc. There were timber floor planks along the centre line, down between the H section girders, and they were just wood colour, no paint at all. I've installed the planks on my kit, but as they're still styrene they're white for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt-e Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Hi All, A bit off topic, but is anyone going to the MERG meet in Harrogate this Saturday, myself and Mr Tilt will be there. Regards Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovelto Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Hi All, A bit off topic, but is anyone going to the MERG meet in Harrogate this Saturday, myself and Mr Tilt will be there. Regards Paul Shold be a good day. Talking about APT-E both prototype and model as well as POP train model and other exciting stuff. Details here https://www.merg.org.uk/merg_wiki/doku.php?id=public%3Ayorkshire&do=export_pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Shold be a good day. Talking about APT-E both prototype and model as well as POP train model and other exciting stuff. Details here https://www.merg.org.uk/merg_wiki/doku.php?id=public%3Ayorkshire&do=export_pdf And NON-serious for sure. I count it a failure if the audience haven't laughed their socks of more than once during the talk. And as the middle sector, the bit how about Paul and I helped Rapido get the APT-E model so good, will be the first time we've ever done it, it could get a tad disjointed at times. I finished doing the PowerPoint presentation for that at about 2 am y'day morning! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 And a good time was had at Harrogate by one and all. I may take a day or two to recover my voice though, talking all day about APT can get a bit wearing on the vocal chords. Some pics of the event below. My E-Train with much of its innards exposed to view What to do at lunchtime? Run APT models of course! The undoubted model stars of the event, Paul's POP-trains in three scales, N gauge at the front, 00 gauge in the middle and the HUGE G gauge model at the back. That's known as 'Big POP' now of course. The small white moulding right at the front is an ABS print of HSFV1. All of these were 3D printed by Paul at home, and amazing achievement. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted September 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2018 I am sure a good day had - looking forward to the small - or far away version in N gauge. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraKat Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It looks awesome, great job on it. If I was to scale this for N, how much should I shrink it by? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It looks awesome, great job on it. If I was to scale this for N, how much should I shrink it by? Paul's done it in N already and that version will most likely be available as a kit in the near future too. It's the smallest one of the three versions in the pic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experimental1967 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hi All, Been a strange few years, the good news I am healthy, Got married in December to my lovely new wife Debbie. Plan was to buy a selection of new 3D printers, and get on with making kits and designing new limited edition models, sadly due to new family matters, this has had to be put off again!!! My web provider also decided to move my email to and external company, thus loosing all my contacts and stored emails (Gee thanks Digital!!!), so if anyone has tried to contact me directly, I will have not received it. The models that are at 99%, will be completed as soon as time allows. This project sounded so simple when I started it, life does through many things at you...………. Sorry to everyone who didn't get their model, but I still plan to complete the kits off and also get on with finishing HSFV1 and the N gauge POP trains. Best wishes to everyone. Regards Paul 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Paul that’s all sounding a Olof more positive than some earlier posts, congratulations on getting married Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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