RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Inspired by Robin on A Nod To Brent I decided my fleet lacked a GWR Full Brake. with help from the chaps on ANTB I selected the Worsley Works etched sides and ends for a K22 Toplight. Edit to say I have had an issue with photo download so this will continue shortly...... Edited September 8, 2016 by colin penfold 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 With apologies for the delay here is the build in pictures. Firstly I dismantled an elderly Hornby R429 Comp The body moulding is a one piece item roof, sides and inner ends. In order to enable me to get the sides off without ruining the roof, I cut a small portion of the sides away to enable the rest of the side to clear the inner end. I then cut the bulk of the sides of by carefully scoring along the roof line, gradually deepening until I could "snap" the side off I then took a Stanley knife and files to the roof to remove the toilet tanks, ribbing and vents I then fitted Roxey Mouldings door handles and grab handles to the sides. I made up the long waistline grab rails from staples, drilled through the sides for a firm fix. I then took heart in mouth and wielded a soldering iron to join sides and ends together. Here is the finished shell drying after a good wash to remove flux I then used a paper template to help ensure the rain strips were marked out evenly on both sides of the vehicle (using photos as a guide) I then fitted them using 0.5mm square section plastruct Also note I fitted the end handrails from nickel silver wire 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Continuing the build, I fitted the lower steps for the guards doors from scrap brass and staples I decided the Hornby bogies were not right. I found that the K22 had American Bogies. I tried to ignore it but couldn't. I was about to order some replacements when I remembered a Ks Autotrailer kit I had part built as a teenager. No way was it ever going to get finished, and nor was it worth selling so it donated its bogies to the K22. Here are the K's bogies and the Hornby ones Sides removed from both Ks sides glued to Hornby bogies Edited September 8, 2016 by colin penfold 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) I used Halfords pre-primer and grey primer to prepare the body shell I then painted the roof with railmatch roof grime I then sprayed the sides with Precision Paints GWR Freight Brown Picked out door handles in humbrol brass I then added transfers from PC Models ( Now HMRS) weathered and assembled. The sides still clip into the floor, the bogies still fit using the Hornby mounting although I cut a bit off the floor to lower the ride height. The Hornby glazing still fits inside the new body ( I had to scrape off the printed corridor handrails and toilet window whiteouts. I used a Stanley knife and then polished out the scratches using toothpaste) Having said that it fits, the Hornby glazing sits a little bit inboard of the sides and I may well decide to fit new glazing after all I have to admit it wasn't the best spray job ( I an new to airbrushing ) but I am OK with the results. The eagle eyed among you will have noted the lack of corridor connections. I want to wait until I can run trains on my layout before I decide on what couplings to use. For that reason I decided not to do the corridor connectors until I decide on couplings. In the meantime it can be test run using the original Hornby hook and bars which are still fitted to the bogie. Otherwise all that's left to do is a coat of Klear. Hope you like. Thanks again to GWRRob for the advice and sharing some photos of the prototype Edited September 8, 2016 by colin penfold 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 That looks great Colin.). I've inherited quite a few old Hornby carriages that I have earmarked for such projects and as such it's very useful to see each individual set out with detail and clarity of method rather than the "the cut the sides" off and "ta-da" style sometimes seen. As an aside, I did like the "made in Great Britain" stamp on the bottom of the coach David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 Made in Britain, butchered in Aylsham! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2016 Well played young Sir and I'm glad to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) Impressive stuff and quite inspirational.Even the underframes on these coaches can be improved but the tiebars will always be a bit chunky. Edited to remove duplication Edited September 9, 2016 by rovex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Excellent. Just shows what can be done with a bit of ingenuity and gumption! I am a great fan of these creative conversions, and it cam out very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Colin Did you need to form the tumble home on the sides? Many thanks David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just a thought - it might be easier to use the 'Southern' version of the Hornby 'GWR' coaches for Toplight conversions as they don't have those thick transverse ribs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 10, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2016 Colin Did you need to form the tumble home on the sides? Many thanks David Hi David, yes I did. As I try to avoid working with Brass I do not own any folding aids so I sandwiched the sides between two pieces of wood in the vice and used another piece of wood pressed against the tumble home to gently fold the whole side in one go. I used the "tuck in" on the ends as a guide as to how much was required and where the fold line should be vertically on the side. I perhaps should have said earlier, I was originally going to use the Hornby ends but decided they didn't look good enough - the moulded corridor connectors were particularly poor. Having decided to buy the ends from Worsley for that reason, I was certainly glad of them when it came to the tumble home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 10, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just a thought - it might be easier to use the 'Southern' version of the Hornby 'GWR' coaches for Toplight conversions as they don't have those thick transverse ribs. That's good advice Bernard. I used a coach that I had already which was surplus to requirements, but it certainly makes sense to buy something that minimises the work if you buy a donor coach with this conversion in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted September 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 I found the SR coaches are easier to do with less moulding on the roof to trim off, shot myself in the foot I've done a Comet brake composite with one and will have to put the cross bands on. That looks a nice first attempt Colin it's always the first one which is the hardest, will we be seeing more from The C.P. Works in the future?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 I found the SR coaches are easier to do with less moulding on the roof to trim off, shot myself in the foot I've done a Comet brake composite with one and will have to put the cross bands on. That looks a nice first attempt Colin it's always the first one which is the hardest, will we be seeing more from The C.P. Works in the future?. There's another two (links in my signature) and a bullied restaurant car on the to-do pile. Having said that, autumn is coming and I will retreat to the man cave for more tracklaying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 An alternative way of forming a tumblehome is to use a piece of steel bar, longer than the body side, and after laying the side on a soft surface-rubber mat or towel for instance, gently roll the bar on the side, producing a curve, and checking against the end. Easier than it sounds. A nice model, by the way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just found this Colin - very nice work. It's given me the idea of getting some etched sides to go on my Mailcoach kits rather than try to paint the clear plastic sides - which has put me off starting them for over 20 years... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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