rob D2 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yes, grain flow polybulk. Forgot about that, but an essential 80s item. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Hi Paul, I do like the TRL PBAs, would go nicely with some Redland PGAs! https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/FENLAND-RAILWAY-FOTOS/CLASS-56/i-HGDsLtG/A Also behind a pair of 31s! https://www.flickr.com/photos/billatkinson2/8227736030/ Which PCAs do you mean please? Another JGA might be a popular one to add some variety to Bachmann's RMC wagon. Any of the straight barrel designs really unless you have a bash at the French ones seen as they are on the back burner elsewhere? Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrallwelder Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hi Alex & Cav The reference to the Bardon PHA is the WH Davis Wagon circa 1986 , not the ex ECC wagon ... although that would be cool also . Certainly the PTA would be a popular selection & I personally would buy 30+ ARC/FY units & would consider a further purchase of South Wales Iron ore examples A couple more personal selections would be > VTG 3 door Ferry vans > Cargowaggon Holdall Wagons ( Norsk Hydro ) > also 2nd the suggestion of the CSA presflo’s Looking forward to any potential vote Furthermore with the painted versions due to arrive from China .... how long do you envisage deliveries to the customer of the accepted Production models ? Thanx TW 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugs Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think the Warflat (Shildon) might not sell as well as there is the Bachmann Warflat already. Some people will want both versions but it might dilute your potential market? Thanks BR Blue, regarding ... It is points like you made about Bachmann's Warflat that have to be taken into consideration. Bachmann's warflat is only suitable for the early/steam periods - these being mostly scrapped and phased out by the late 70's. Those of us interested in the "modern image" would greatly benefit from a modern KFA-G warflat (current design code KF004B, Shildon built in the mid-to-late 70's), as our only current option is a spottily available kit. Producing a model soon(ish) to add to the recently released Hatton's warwell would actually be reasonably well timed I think. I know I would buy ~20 of them! I would also love some of the MODA build PFA's (design code PF012D, I think) as well, I'm sure you can sense a theme building here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hi Tugs. I know about the difference and would welcome the newer version. However I feel some people many not care as much and thus potential sales maybe diluted. I was looking at it from a manufacturer's point of view. As a modeller however I would welcome some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwicksfinest Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 How about the up to date Redlands ?? MMA in DB Cargo red and ermewa in grey, or HOA's ermewa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hello I vote for the YEA. I have often wondered who would be brave enough to bring to market a critical rail system. The YEA Perch, Porpoise and Chute Welded Rail Carrier are seen extensively across the next work since the 1980s through to today. Not withstanding, the YEA can also form a Snow and Ice Treatment Train (though geographically limited to the South) Thanks for showing why this is so difficult for a new manufacturer to contemplate - and you have omitted the power wagon Porpoise DR800xx http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/perchporpoise/e53dd29e2 At least 3 bogie designs have been used, and cabs appear to have been rebuilt at some stage. A very complex set of wagons - yes very appealing as a model but I would suggest not one for a new company. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Quite complex but not so difficult to model. There are variations in bogies chute and gantry wagons etc but you don't need to model all of the variations. Pick one, do a set. You can get away with just the YEA 'Perch' as they could be seen in workings by themselves on occassion butvonce you do the other wagons in the set you really need to produce them all at once to ensure that people can model a rake. As you say though its probably not idea as a project for a new company. It will be on my to do list moving forward and I still intend to finish my N gauge 3D printed set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 DRS seems to be a rather popular livery for locos and stock. How about some different types of nuclear flasks for them to pull? there are a number of different designs apart from the type made by Bachmann, and a large double bogie one (probably not viable that one in RTR). There are also the military nuclear carriers which go from the nuclear sub berths to selafield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 A couple of suggestions from off the forum, PWA Fertiliser wagon and an HAA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrallwelder Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 HAA ... good call , another high unit shifter ! TW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Scale length PTA as used in scotland and South Wales plus later on Mendips stone traffic would get my vote. Previously only available as a AME resin kit but long since lost to market and sporadically from DEMU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwicksfinest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate ooooooh what he said ^^^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate Sticking with an aggregates theme; the Redland self-discharge sets. Leaving scope for the adventurous to make it operate I must say some of you are expecting a huge amount from this small company. A bogie vehicle (which could be back dated to a container carrier) and four distinctive hopper wagons. Yes they have some similarities, but also considerable differences. And thats if the drawings are available (have n't the wagons been withdrawn and possibly scrapped? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/selfdischarge Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just giving them options to think on Paul (I'll be honest I didn't know off the top of my head that there was multiple hopper designs for it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric709 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 ZCA sea urchin? A few differing body types granted but would be a relatively easy one compared to some of the other suggestions perhaps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Hi guys heres my wish list JGA RMC curved top could also be used as the ECC Quarries variant Bardon Aggregates early hexagon chassis style PGA Tilcon with extened top Clyde Cement bogie cement tanks either.. PBA blue dowlow polybulk, this one again could be used for the roofed or open version Last but definately not least PBA Potash "Jolly Green Giant" Cheers. Edited March 5, 2018 by richard60098 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I like the sound of a PWA Fertiliser wagon Or any ferry wagon tbh. So much choice I doubt you can go wrong!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just the opposite sir. Everyone wants different things! What we need is everyone wanting the same thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 If you are asking what I will buy? ARC / Yeoman PGAs. I'd probably have at least 60 of them. To do justice to the PGAs you've probably got to do a good cross-section of the variants (so that you can exploit the livery variations). But given that you are doing the CAD yourselves you could probably design clever tooling with inter-changable parts to achieve this? This is where your approach (doing your own CAD) probably excels over others? I started doing this myself as a brass kit... maybe I'll finish it one of these days? Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 ZCA sea urchin? A few differing body types granted but would be a relatively easy one compared to some of the other suggestions perhaps Different bodies on different chassis by different Works/Contractors over a long conversion period. At least two body styles have an A and B version. One chassis has and A and B version. Worms, Open, Can, Of! I suspect that this is why Hornby quietly dropped their proposed model to come out along side the OTA. MC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I suspect the largest voice might be for other pga versions. Especially later in their lives, I can't recall seeing any shots of uniform pga rakes due to the number of variations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Yes, grain flow polybulk. Forgot about that, but an essential 80s item. You mean like this? Newmarket Grain by geoff7918, on Flickr Any of the straight barrel designs really unless you have a bash at the French ones seen as they are on the back burner elsewhere? Cheers Paul Thanks Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Bachmann's warflat is only suitable for the early/steam periods - these being mostly scrapped and phased out by the late 70's. Those of us interested in the "modern image" would greatly benefit from a modern KFA-G warflat (current design code KF004B, Shildon built in the mid-to-late 70's), as our only current option is a spottily available kit. Producing a model soon(ish) to add to the recently released Hatton's warwell would actually be reasonably well timed I think. I know I would buy ~20 of them! I would also love some of the MODA build PFA's (design code PF012D, I think) as well, I'm sure you can sense a theme building here... Hi Tugs. I know about the difference and would welcome the newer version. However I feel some people many not care as much and thus potential sales maybe diluted. I was looking at it from a manufacturer's point of view. As a modeller however I would welcome some. Thanks Tugs and BR Blue. I think that both the PFA and the modern Warflat would prove popular, MOD traffic seems to appeal to a lot of modellers these days. However, I wonder if the Cawoods and Gypsum would also interest some? I think that with the MOD traffic, you don't need to have long rakes which means not having to buy lots and lots of wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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